The Right Kind of Football

[Dave_in-NC]

I don't think it's shocking that the locker room is different this year. We have been losing and have a circus show following Hardy around, it's pretty easy to figure out why the locker room is the way it is.

As far as Garrett goes, I want him gone. Last year was the exception to his garbage, not the rule. We really don't have to get all analytical when it comes to Garrett and his performance either. The man, to this day, still has a hard time knowing when to throw a challenge flag. He still seems to have no idea when to call a timeout and he never seems to understand when to punt or go for it.

We've had a season derailed due to injuries and Garrett will get a pass, as would probably most coaches. That still doesn't take away from what he is and that is an average motivator, below average game planner and an absolute horrible in-game coach.

Dez created more of a show than Hardy has. And for more than one season.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Well, there you have it... the coaches forgot how to coach. That explains it all. Thank you. I appreciate you as a passionate fan.

No they didn't. They just want to line up with some sub par players and have them execute like no one is MIA.

 

[Doomsay]

LOL, stacking up the moral victories, one on top of the other.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

ah the usual erod garrett apologist thread.

 

[JoeKing]

No they didn't. They just want to line up with some sub par players and have them execute like no one is MIA.

Stop making sense, man! I need a fall guy to blame this season on.

 

[CrownCowboy]

Dez created more of a show than Hardy has. And for more than one season.

Your point?

We have had one successful season under Garrett. One. Last year wasn't the norm.

 

[RS12]

The Right Kind of Football

Check the standings column where the number on the left hand side is bigger than the number on the right.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Your point?

We have had one successful season under Garrett. One. Last year wasn't the norm.

My point was you said there is a circus show following Hardy around. I said there is just as much a circus show being put on by Dez. Capisce?

 

[50cent]

In fairness can we say that wasn't the plan? I can't, since Romo wasn't basically here this season and they made bad decisions at RB.
I have no problem saying those bad decisions don't lay at there feet but I can't say for sure the plan wasn't the same as last year.
I doubt it would have worked though. That is my real problem, there was no plan "B" period.

After seeing Dallas pass on 1st and goal vs NYG on the first drive of the season, yes I can say that was the goal. Then to follow it with 25 1st half passes in game 2 vs Philly, only solidified TO ME, that ThE plan was for Romo to win games with his arm. It was like Week 1 vs SF of 2013 all over again. Passing for no orher reason than thinking Romo gave us the best chance to win/score. He isnt! We learned our lesson that game, then went on to create our run identity to a 12-4. What will it take for them to learn Romo isn't our Savior but another important piece to a winning running formula, especially from under center.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

After seeing Dallas pass on 1st and goal vs NYG on the first drive of the season, yes I can say that was the goal. Then to follow it with 25 1st half passes in game 2 vs Philly, only solidified TO ME, that ThE plan was for Romo to win games with his arm. It was like Week 1 vs SF of 2013 all over again. Passing for no orher reason than thinking Romo gave us the best chance to win/score. He isnt! We learned our lesson that game, then went on to create our run identity to a 12-4. What will it take for them to learn Romo isn't our Savior but another important piece to a winning running formula, especially from under center.

I get it but we don't have the same cohesion with the line and Rbs we did last season. For some stupid reason the staff thought they would. You have to do some thing when your plan don't work. I guess that plan was to put it back on Tony. Which I agree sucked. I'll say it again, JG knows one way to produce on the field, it's been proven seven times and counting it won't work minus a single player.

 

[CATCH17]

ah the usual erod garrett apologist thread.

Solid discussion nonetheless.



I just hate that people think games being close and players trying hard actually mean Garrett can coach.

 

[Aven8]

To compare Carolina and Dallas is ridiculous. That is a team that has been getting better since last season arrow pointed up. They started out 3-8-1 but the won 4 in a row to the playoffs, and since have won 15 straight games. That's a team that is getting better, all while finding out early last year they lost there all pro DE for the season, and then this year there all rookie WR.

I'm not so sure with Romo we would be 9-2 as well. Without Dez this team has no offensive fire power. None. Beas and Williams are what they are. The RB's on this team are not starters as well. McFadden has done an admirable job however IMO but he's JAG. We screwed the pooch mostly on offense IMO. All the coaches are to blame for this mess. You can throw Romo in there as well as he has a TON of influence in what we do.

 

[noshame]

Gosh, If only Romo were here. Teams wouldn't be reading our offense, the defense wouldn't be gassed every drive, special teams would make no gaffs, Garrett would be better at clock management, Jerry would quit taking to the press,world peace would be in order, global warming would cease to exist. Did I miss anything? No to worry, like a fine wine Romo will be even better at 36 next year.

 

[Zman5]

Good take. FO has surely made some mistakes this year.

It all started with extending JG.

 

[50cent]

I get it but we don't have the same cohesion with the line and Rbs we did last season. For some stupid reason the staff thought they would. You have to do some thing when your plan don't work. I guess that plan was to put it back on Tony. Which I agree sucked. I'll say it again, JG knows one way to produce on the field, it's been proven seven times and counting it won't work minus a single player.

That would hold more weight with me, if had not been for the fact that Randle was well on his way to a 100 yard game. He was averaging 4 a pop and we still passed passed passed. And again, even without Randle performing, there is no excuse coming right back on the field after the Beasley returned TD and pass it more only down 1 point. Take your medicine and regroup at half. Just like there's no excuse to come right back out firing after 2 straight pick 6s VS Carolina. In all honesty and I've said it before, 2014 was not how they (Joneses, Garrett, etc) envisioned winning and Jerry even said so before 2014 that it would be a long year. Jerry built this team around winning with Romos arm and when he thought he could get cute and hand it over to him again, it backfired. So no, they didn't forget how to coach, they just want to win with Romo being the focal point ala Brady, Rodgers, P. Manning. THROWING!! And are hell bent on pricing themselves right for investing so much in him only to see someone else have more of an offensive influence than THEIR GUY!

 

[Dave_in-NC]

That would hold more weight with me, if had not been for the fact that Randle was well on his way to a 100 yard game. He was averaging 4 a pop and we still passed passed passed. And again, even without Randle performing, there is no excuse coming right back on the field after the Beasley returned TD and pass it more only down 1 point. Take your medicine and regroup at half. Just like there's no excuse to come right back out firing after 2 straight pick 6s VS Carolina. In all honesty and I've said it before, 2014 was not how they (Joneses, Garrett, etc) envisioned winning and Jerry even said so before 2014 that it would be a long year. Jerry built this team around winning with Romos arm and when he thought he could get cute and hand it over to him again, it backfired. So no, they didn't forget how to coach, they just want to win with Romo being the focal point ala Brady, Rodgers, P. Manning. THROWING!! And are hell bent on pricing themselves right for investing so much in him only to see someone else have more of an offensive influence than THEIR GUY!

I don't disagree. The one thing I think differently on is Jerry and every one thought our defense was going to get us killed last season, not so much the offense. Much to every ones surprise they did enough for that not to happen. Now it was because of the way the offense controlled the games.
Maybe this season they thought the defense was so much better Romo could shoulder it ALL again. Who really knows what these guys are thinking?
I know I don't.

 

[50cent]

I don't disagree. The one thing I think differently on is Jerry and every one thought our defense was going to get us killed last season, not so much the offense. Much to every ones surprise they did enough for that not to happen. Now it was because of the way the offense controlled the games.
Maybe this season they thought the defense was so much better Romo could shoulder it ALL again. Who really knows what these guys are thinking?
I know I don't.

Even I thought this defense would be more turnover prone, but it hasnt happened. This is just me, because I don't know either, but it seemed the decision was made to give it back to Romo before we made the Hardy decision and drafted Jones and Gregory or assempbled this defense on paper. That decision TO ME was made during the 2014 season when they made it clear as day, they didn't want Murray back so they could get back to being more Romo friendly passing. Garrett and Jones have never been run oriented and Linehan San 2014 too. 2014 went against all of their natures and they got back to them this year and it sucks!

 

[Aven8]

That would hold more weight with me, if had not been for the fact that Randle was well on his way to a 100 yard game. He was averaging 4 a pop and we still passed passed passed. And again, even without Randle performing, there is no excuse coming right back on the field after the Beasley returned TD and pass it more only down 1 point. Take your medicine and regroup at half. Just like there's no excuse to come right back out firing after 2 straight pick 6s VS Carolina. In all honesty and I've said it before, 2014 was not how they (Joneses, Garrett, etc) envisioned winning and Jerry even said so before 2014 that it would be a long year. Jerry built this team around winning with Romos arm and when he thought he could get cute and hand it over to him again, it backfired. So no, they didn't forget how to coach, they just want to win with Romo being the focal point ala Brady, Rodgers, P. Manning. THROWING!! And are hell bent on pricing themselves right for investing so much in him only to see someone else have more of an offensive influence than THEIR GUY!

As I stated earlier they should have known better. The running game allowed average weapons such as Twill and Beas to look good. But when you don't have that dynamic running game, and take away Dez it all falls apart.

This season has proven that we now need a quality backup, a stud RB, and a damn good #2 WR for any of this to work with there simple strategies.

 

[LittleD]

Truth be told IMVHO, I think Jerry loves Romo and will not allow any real competition as long as he thinks
Romo is the one answer to get to another SB. You can tell from his conversations and media spiels that he
thinks Romo is the man and that man will stay in complete control up until he decides to retire. In many ways,
Jerry is keeping Romo in the driver's seat much like he did Aikman back in the day. They will begin looking
for a real QB once Romo hangs up the cleats not before. Now they have had little success finding new QB's as
we all know so that may take several years more to find pay dirt.

 

[50cent]

As I stated earlier they should have known better. The running game allowed average weapons such as Twill and Beas to look good. But when you don't have that dynamic running game, and take away Dez it all falls apart.

This season has proven that we now need a quality backup, a stud RB, and a damn good #2 WR for any of this to work with there simple strategies.

TO ME and I know I keep saying that, but we never got the chance to see if we still had that dynamic run game WITH ROMO because the game plan was to pass heavily. Randle had a decent game week 1 but only got 16 carries. It was 2013 all over when Murray was getting 15 carries a game at 4 a pop and ppl kept saying the run game wasn't producing yet he was a pro bowler. I don't disagree, but how do we know the run game couldn't have been just as dynamic as 2014 when Randle played well game 1 but didn't get more Murray like carries and then passing 25 times the first half game 2? Miami was the closest this team looked to 2014 and even with 2 fumbduck Ints by Romo, we still dominated by simply running. I wish we had a do over!