The season that should have been

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Uh, with all due respect, he just showed you the forest. The forest is the big picture. The tree is the little picture. You're pointing to 12-4 (the tree) when he's pointing to two playoff wins in 20 years (the forest).

That's the ignorant "I get my takes from the media" view. If you've been paying attention the last 2-3 years you would see that there's been a big change in the front office that has led to some very wise and good decisions recently. Not all have been wise (Hardy was a mistake) but most have been smart. Salary cap is in pretty good shape as well. Fans only see 4-12 and are too lazy or dumb to see the reasons for it, I.e. Losing your best QB, WR, CB as well as all the other injuries. You guys act like that makes no difference and ignorant you blame the coaching staff and front office. It's easy for you to not think I suppose.
 

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As I watch my home town Panthers steamroll their way to the SB with a 17-1 record, I can't help but get a sickening feeling in the pit of my stomach. This was supposed to be the Cowboys victory today (am I the only one who feels that way?).

At the end of last season, this is exactly what I envisioned for my beloved Cowboys. It was supposed to be our return to the glory days....our return to our rightful spot as a contender. 2014 was our warmup to the SB...it was the Cowboys announcing to the rest of the league we have arrived, just like that 1991 season. We had our triplets, we finally addressed our OL creating what was being described as what could become one of the best OL in history. We had a coach who appeared to have finally benefited from his on the job training and the light bulb finally went off in his head. We were using downhill running to setup the pass and finish off games when we had the lead. We had Pro Bowl talent at all of the offensive skill positions in Romo, Dez, Witten, Murray. The Defense still needed help but it appeared it was on its way. Sean Lee, RoMac and Hitchens as our starting LBs seemed to be the equivalent of our OL. our DE was improving with Hardy signing, D Law getting another year in offseason program and T Crawford coming off an impressive year. Finally we still needed some help in backfield , but Scandrick was impressive and if we solidified our DL with the promise at LB and a solid defensive draft, this defense could only get better. Everything pointed to our return to SB glory. Romo was going to be the League and SB MVP, and the new Dallas Dynasty was starting in 2015.

Then the bus started creaking. We didn't resign Murray, While not happy, many of us thought it was the right move to not match the eagles offer. We could surely find another back to run behind this OL....shoot, there was probably 500 backs who gain 1500 yards behind this OL - right?!?!? Then another creak, Callahan signs with the skins. That's OK, this OL filled with first rounder’s was so good we didn't need Callahan. Plus we just had THE...BEST...DRAFT....EVER....Three first rounder’s in our first three picks including another consensus first rounder (even if he wasn't even drafted) for the OL guaranteed SB am I right?!?!? Then it started to happen...cracks in the body, Scandrick out for the season, Dez holding out and getting hammy issues in training camp, Greg Hardy is the worst criminal in football noise, RoMac suspended for violating the substance abuse policy even our second round pick gets the kiss of death high ankle sprain. Of course this all sucked, but it was only speed bumps on our way to the SB....at least that was what I believed and that is what I told anybody who would listen. This team is too good from top to bottom and the NFC East sucked The Skins suck as they normally do. Chip Kelly did his best to destroy his team to prove that his system didn't need players to succeed, but we all knew his team would go down faster than the titanic. the NYG were finally realizing that Eli was a product of their great defenses, and oh, by the way, they no longer have a great defense. This was the year we were going to seal the NFC East crown by week 12.

And then, the first wheel falls off. We are sitting at 1-0 but Dez breaks his foot. This is bad, but, at least we still have Romo...this is a slight inconvenience, it may even cost us 14-2, 15-1 season. The good news, is we have a head coach that got all of his RKG that have the right mental mindset to overcome this type of adversity and again, we at least still have Romo. Then on our way to a very shaky 2-0, the unthinkable happens....Romo goes down (I am still shuddering from the thought of it). In the immortal words of the marine in Aliens 3 "That's it, game over dude!). but wait, what's this, our players will defy medical logic and we will get them both back and we only have to win 2-3 games out of 7 to still have a chance to win the NFC East and go into the playoffs with a winning streak that will carry us into the SB?? Is it possible we can still salvage this season??? of course not....the football gods no longer look favorably at this franchise. We go 1-7 and the GM and his assistant GM son failed us with the crap they hired as backup QBs and the Head coach proved he still doesn't know anything about coaching football (we also learned who the real offensive coach was and he was out for 10 weeks with a broken collarbone). Garrett proved over 12 games this year, that he could not coach his way out of a paper bag and the 4 games he won were in spite of him.

THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR YEAR!!! And the GM, and the coaches (every last one of them) and the backup QBs, and the football gods who forsake us ruined it. The year the panthers had was the year we were supposed to have. Everything pointed to that in May 2015...the only question mark was the RB position and we could overcome that....well, it is amazing how far this team has fallen...from SB aspirations to picking fourth in the upcoming draft. This has got to be the worst season ever in the 42 years that I have been a fan of the Cowboys. I will be depressed watching the panthers play thinking about what could have been.

end rant/

This is a realistic snapshot...I can't fault disappointment. That comes to all fans of a team at some point. Root for small successes until the picture is full once again. That's what fans do...
 

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That's the ignorant "I get my takes from the media" view.
Huh? :huh: What are you talking about?
The term "Can't see the forest from the trees" isn't a media phrase.
Second, the Cowboys' record and accomplishments since our last Super Bowl 20 years ago is a matter of history. It has nothing to do with "getting my takes from the media".

If you've been paying attention the last 2-3 years you would see that there's been a big change in the front office that has led to some very wise and good decisions recently. Not all have been wise (Hardy was a mistake) but most have been smart. Salary cap is in pretty good shape as well. Fans only see 4-12 and are too lazy or dumb to see the reasons for it, I.e. Losing your best QB, WR, CB as well as all the other injuries. You guys act like that makes no difference and ignorant you blame the coaching staff and front office. It's easy for you to not think I suppose.

Hhhhmm. Ever heard the phrase "rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic"?
Oh, sure, rearranging the chairs may give the appearance of "change". And, yes, things might look pretty good the way you align them on the deck of the Titanic. In fact, put a few musicians in those chairs and let the harmonious music play as the ship's patrons lose themselves in the melodious sounds. But ... when your ship is sinking, pointing to how nice the chairs look and how well the musicians play becomes a bit irrelevant, don't you think?

Now, to your point and then back to the reason I commented.
Managing the salary cap is fine. Drafting stellar offensive linemen is great. But ... and don't miss this oh, ye, who questions other people's ability to think ... HOW DO THOSE THINGS TRANSLATE TO WINS, CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS AND SUPER BOWL APPEARANCES?!?!?

This is why I attacked your analogy of not being able to see the forest from the trees. You point to changes (the trees) and we're pointing to a record of futility that has resulted in ZERO appearances in an NFC Championship or Super Bowls (the forest).

I'm pretty sure after the Cowboys went 13-3, the same argument you're offering here likely was offered then. But look what happened? We followed that year with sub-par years and got no further than the divisional playoff round. The pattern has been established. This franchise has fallen short since 1996. Maybe that's good enough for the Browns, but not the Cowboys. Not the forest we're looking at.

And you speak of changes in the last two to three years. But in that time span we are 24-24. And, yes, we sustained injuries. So what? Pittsburgh lost Antonio Brown, LaVeon Bell and Ben Roethlisberger at some point in the season and got to the playoffs. They won a game with Landry Jones, for goodness sake.
The Packers during their Super Bowl run a few years ago had been decimated by injuries, and yet Aaron Rodgers got them to the Super Bowl as a wild card.
How is it that these franchises can get their team to the playoffs but we can't?
We had a very easy division to conqueror, and our backup quarterbackss could only win ONE GAME!!!
Does that sound to you like a franchise that knows what it's doing?

Now, that's not to say that lightning can't strike. But YOU don't have any history on your side to support your belief that these recent changes will result in a Super Bowl appearance much less an NFC Championship appearance. If change is not producing at the very least those two results, then change is irrelevant to the overall goal of this franchise - again considering the forest instead of the trees.

And you say we aren't thinking. :lmao:

Stop trying to insult everyone by pretending you're the only one who has a brain and knows how to use it. We do too. We just evaluate the information and facts from a different perspective than you. But at least we have the record from history to support our position. You don't - unless you like change for change's sake.

No, we ARE viewing the forest, not just the trees. ;)
 
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Why do bad fans be fans of such a bad team is the question.

I should switch my team because of a bunch of whiney *******? I'll just make fun of them.

Who is getting laughed at now? The negative fans or the happy go lucky, were going to the SB every year fans?

Jokes on the homers this year unfortunately.
 

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Huh? :huh: What are you talking about?
The term "Can't see the forest from the trees" isn't a media phrase.
Second, the Cowboys' record and accomplishments since our last Super Bowl 20 years ago is a matter of history. It has nothing to do with "getting my takes from the media".



Hhhhmm. Ever heard the phrase "rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic"?
Oh, sure, rearranging the chairs may give the appearance of "change". And, yes, things might look pretty good the way you align them on the deck of the Titanic. In fact, put a few musicians in those chairs and let the harmonious music play as the ship's patrons lose themselves in the melodious sounds. But ... when your ship is sinking, pointing to how nice the chairs look and how well the musicians play becomes a bit irrelevant, don't you think?

Now, to your point and then back to the reason I commented.
Managing the salary cap is fine. Drafting stellar offensive linemen is great. But ... and don't miss this oh, ye, who questions other people's ability to think ... HOW DO THOSE THINGS TRANSLATE TO WINS, CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS AND SUPER BOWL APPEARANCES?!?!?

This is why I attacked your analogy of not being able to see the forest from the trees. You point to changes (the trees) and we're pointing to a record of futility that has resulted in ZERO appearances in an NFC Championship or Super Bowls (the forest).

I'm pretty sure after the Cowboys went 13-3, the same argument you're offering here likely was offered then. But look what happened? We followed that year with sub-par years and got no further than the divisional playoff round. The pattern has been established. This franchise has fallen short since 1996. Maybe that's good enough for the Browns, but not the Cowboys. Not the forest we're looking at.

And you speak of changes in the last two to three years. But in that time span we are 24-24. And, yes, we sustained injuries. So what? Pittsburgh lost Antonio Brown, Laveon Bell and Ben Roethlisberger at some point in the season and got to the playoffs. They won a game with Landry Jones, for goodness sake.
The Packers during their Super Bowl run a few years ago had been decimated by injuries, and yet Aaron Rodgers got them to the Super Bowl as a wild card.
How is it that these franchise can get their team to the playoff but we can't?
We had a very easy division to conqueror and our backups could only win ONE GAME!!!
Does that sound to you like a franchise that knows what it's doing?

Now, that's not to say that lightning can't strike. But YOU don't have any history on your side to support your belief that these recent changes will result in a Super Bowl appearance much less an NFC Championship appearance. If change is not producing at the very least those two results, then change is irrelevant to the overall goal of this franchise - again considering the forest instead of the trees.

And you say we aren't thinking. :lmao:

Stop trying to insult everyone by pretending you're the only one who has a brain and knows how to use it. We do too. We just evaluate the information and facts from a different perspective than you. But at least we have the record from history to support our position. You don't - unless you like change for change sake.

No, we ARE viewing the forest, not just the trees. ;)

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::flagwave::flagwave::flagwave::flagwave::flagwave:

BRAVO BRAVO!!!!!!!!!
 

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Who is getting laughed at now? The negative fans or the happy go lucky, were going to the SB every year fans?

Jokes on the homers this year unfortunately.

C'mon, unless one is a burn barrel buddy, there isn't any blame upon a fan...in any year, if he's rooting for his team. That's sports and doesn't have to always be right, to be right.
 

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Huh? :huh: What are you talking about?
The term "Can't see the forest from the trees" isn't a media phrase.
Second, the Cowboys' record and accomplishments since our last Super Bowl 20 years ago is a matter of history. It has nothing to do with "getting my takes from the media".



Hhhhmm. Ever heard the phrase "rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic"?
Oh, sure, rearranging the chairs may give the appearance of "change". And, yes, things might look pretty good the way you align them on the deck of the Titanic. In fact, put a few musicians in those chairs and let the harmonious music play as the ship's patrons lose themselves in the melodious sounds. But ... when your ship is sinking, pointing to how nice the chairs look and how well the musicians play becomes a bit irrelevant, don't you think?

Now, to your point and then back to the reason I commented.
Managing the salary cap is fine. Drafting stellar offensive linemen is great. But ... and don't miss this oh, ye, who questions other people's ability to think ... HOW DO THOSE THINGS TRANSLATE TO WINS, CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS AND SUPER BOWL APPEARANCES?!?!?

This is why I attacked your analogy of not being able to see the forest from the trees. You point to changes (the trees) and we're pointing to a record of futility that has resulted in ZERO appearances in an NFC Championship or Super Bowls (the forest).

I'm pretty sure after the Cowboys went 13-3, the same argument you're offering here likely was offered then. But look what happened? We followed that year with sub-par years and got no further than the divisional playoff round. The pattern has been established. This franchise has fallen short since 1996. Maybe that's good enough for the Browns, but not the Cowboys. Not the forest we're looking at.

And you speak of changes in the last two to three years. But in that time span we are 24-24. And, yes, we sustained injuries. So what? Pittsburgh lost Antonio Brown, LaVeon Bell and Ben Roethlisberger at some point in the season and got to the playoffs. They won a game with Landry Jones, for goodness sake.
The Packers during their Super Bowl run a few years ago had been decimated by injuries, and yet Aaron Rodgers got them to the Super Bowl as a wild card.
How is it that these franchises can get their team to the playoffs but we can't?
We had a very easy division to conqueror, and our backup quarterbackss could only win ONE GAME!!!
Does that sound to you like a franchise that knows what it's doing?

Now, that's not to say that lightning can't strike. But YOU don't have any history on your side to support your belief that these recent changes will result in a Super Bowl appearance much less an NFC Championship appearance. If change is not producing at the very least those two results, then change is irrelevant to the overall goal of this franchise - again considering the forest instead of the trees.

And you say we aren't thinking. :lmao:

Stop trying to insult everyone by pretending you're the only one who has a brain and knows how to use it. We do too. We just evaluate the information and facts from a different perspective than you. But at least we have the record from history to support our position. You don't - unless you like change for change's sake.

No, we ARE viewing the forest, not just the trees. ;)

And with rant off, the forrest is still there and methods of tree improvements are available via many directions and techniques.
 

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Classic example of not being able to see the forest because of the trees.

Look who's talking the guy who called Sean Lee a progress stopper and just claimed the Cowboys are headed in the right direction after a 4-12 season. lol
 

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Another disguised thread blasting Jones and Garrett. So tired of this crap.

It's not like you've never blasted Jerry. Those are pretty strong words coming from someone who always complains about everyone being negative. lol

There's many who are happy with it. Anyone who pays to go to the games and or buy the merchandise. They are endorsing how Jerry runs the team not to mention Jerry-tron pole dancing Victoria Secrets joke of a stadium.

This team sucks. Keep drinking Jerry's secret sauce koolaid.
 

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Actually, Cam made Greg Olsen a better tight end. Olsen is coming off back-to-back 1,000 yard seasons. He also had back-to-back 800 yard seasons prior to that. Meanwhile, Olsen's four years with the Bears his highest yardage output was 612.

And let's look at Ted Ginn Jr. He totaled 10 touchdown catches. His best season prior was 5 touchdown catches in 2013 when he played with Cam. The following season (2014) he went to Arizona where he did basically nothing.

As Cam has gotten better, so has Olsen and Ginn. And Olsen being the "second best (TE) in the NFL" has more to do with Cam than it has to do with Olsen because Olsen was never considered the second best TE in the NFL prior to this and last season.

The difference isn't that Olsen got better. The difference is that Cam got better.

Have you seen some of the catches Olsen has made this season.....they have been unbelievable. He has really bailed Cam out a number of times.
 

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Have you seen some of the catches Olsen has made this season.....they have been unbelievable. He has really bailed Cam out a number of times.

And I've also seen Cam put it on the numbers to Olsen too.

Besides, you'd never know how great a receiver Olsen or anyone is if you don't have a quarterback who ...
1.) Recognizes your talent and
2.) Delivers the ball in an area where you can catch it.

It's all about opportunity, and Cam has given Olsen an opportunity to shine by feeding him the football. And it's not just Olsen, which is why I mentioned Ted Ginn. Ted Ginn has become a regular threat in the Panthers offense because of Cam. Prior to Cam, Ginn was basically an after-thought relegated to special teams excitement.
 

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Classic example of not being able to see the forest because of the trees.

That's just reality man. 1 division title and 1 winning season in half a decade doesn't inspire confidence. Jason Garrett has been a major part of this organization since before Wade Phillips.

Feel free to elaborate with something concrete, other than veiled insults.
 
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I don't get that feeling at all. I haven't given the Panthers credit all year......but those guys can play. They don't have many big names on offense but they don't need them. Cam is a top 5 QB in this league if not top 3. No quarterback plays with he weapons he does. And his best option was hurt all year in Benjamin. The guy is a BEAST. And his defense is just as good. I can't no longer not give them credit. They are better than advertised. We may have the better offense when healthy but even that's suspect. Their defense....is how you win championships. That's how great their defense is. Gotta give props to Rivera. I remember when there was a time when Panthers fans felt about him like Cowboys feel about Garrett. Wanted him fired two years ago. Now he's in the Super Bowl.

Here's my opinion, and it will get cracked on, jacked up, and made fun of... we're a sleeping giant about to be awakened after this off-season. Just my two cents.
 
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