The season that should have been

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Who is getting laughed at now? The negative fans or the happy go lucky, were going to the SB every year fans?

Jokes on the homers this year unfortunately.

Getting laughed at for feeling we had a chance before losing our two best players for the year? Ok. Laugh away. Hell, laugh at me whenever you want about rooting for my sports team instead of whining about all the great moves I would've and could've and should've made if I was the GM. Then further crying about just about anything possible. Then in big games like the Seattle game last year throwing up the surrender flag like a bunch of *******'s. This is sports. It's entertainment. If they enjoy the poor is we don't have a chance. We are run so poorly. Our players are bad, our coaches worse, oh boo hoo woe is me. Then they're free to do that. I think it's weak and hedging thier bet. Evidence by all the bandwagon jumping last year befitting of a bunch of ********.

Interesting you said that homers are being laughed at for pulling for their team. Very telling words. We're not worried about being laughed at by other teams fans or our own faction of "fans"" Theyre pathetic and predictable.

We didn't laugh last year and we won't this year when we're a very good team. We'll just pity as we usually do.
 

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Huh? :huh: What are you talking about?
The term "Can't see the forest from the trees" isn't a media phrase.
Second, the Cowboys' record and accomplishments since our last Super Bowl 20 years ago is a matter of history. It has nothing to do with "getting my takes from the media".



Hhhhmm. Ever heard the phrase "rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic"?
Oh, sure, rearranging the chairs may give the appearance of "change". And, yes, things might look pretty good the way you align them on the deck of the Titanic. In fact, put a few musicians in those chairs and let the harmonious music play as the ship's patrons lose themselves in the melodious sounds. But ... when your ship is sinking, pointing to how nice the chairs look and how well the musicians play becomes a bit irrelevant, don't you think?

Now, to your point and then back to the reason I commented.
Managing the salary cap is fine. Drafting stellar offensive linemen is great. But ... and don't miss this oh, ye, who questions other people's ability to think ... HOW DO THOSE THINGS TRANSLATE TO WINS, CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS AND SUPER BOWL APPEARANCES?!?!?

This is why I attacked your analogy of not being able to see the forest from the trees. You point to changes (the trees) and we're pointing to a record of futility that has resulted in ZERO appearances in an NFC Championship or Super Bowls (the forest).

I'm pretty sure after the Cowboys went 13-3, the same argument you're offering here likely was offered then. But look what happened? We followed that year with sub-par years and got no further than the divisional playoff round. The pattern has been established. This franchise has fallen short since 1996. Maybe that's good enough for the Browns, but not the Cowboys. Not the forest we're looking at.

And you speak of changes in the last two to three years. But in that time span we are 24-24. And, yes, we sustained injuries. So what? Pittsburgh lost Antonio Brown, LaVeon Bell and Ben Roethlisberger at some point in the season and got to the playoffs. They won a game with Landry Jones, for goodness sake.
The Packers during their Super Bowl run a few years ago had been decimated by injuries, and yet Aaron Rodgers got them to the Super Bowl as a wild card.
How is it that these franchises can get their team to the playoffs but we can't?
We had a very easy division to conqueror, and our backup quarterbackss could only win ONE GAME!!!
Does that sound to you like a franchise that knows what it's doing?

Now, that's not to say that lightning can't strike. But YOU don't have any history on your side to support your belief that these recent changes will result in a Super Bowl appearance much less an NFC Championship appearance. If change is not producing at the very least those two results, then change is irrelevant to the overall goal of this franchise - again considering the forest instead of the trees.

And you say we aren't thinking. :lmao:

Stop trying to insult everyone by pretending you're the only one who has a brain and knows how to use it. We do too. We just evaluate the information and facts from a different perspective than you. But at least we have the record from history to support our position. You don't - unless you like change for change's sake.

No, we ARE viewing the forest, not just the trees. ;)

I'm not the only one worth a brain here but there aren't many others.
Here's my opinion, and it will get cracked on, jacked up, and made fun of... we're a sleeping giant about to be awakened after this off-season. Just my two cents.

I agree. More signs point to that outcome than the opposite. If you know what to look for.
 

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That's just reality man. 1 division title and 1 winning season in half a decade doesn't inspire confidence. Jason Garrett has been a major part of this organization since before Wade Phillips.

Feel free to elaborate with something concrete, other than veiled insults.

Possibly, if it were true that only 1 division title occurred or that only 1 winning season occured. Or that either tag on was a picture of achievements during the period of time. With Wade at the helm, did or did not the team fall completely apart? Then, except for when the team lost both it's franchise quarterback and it's top offensive producer both, did the team have a single losing season for the entire time that the head coach was present?
 

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I agree. More signs point to that outcome than the opposite. If you know what to look for.

If we're a sleeping Giant about to be awakened after the off-season what signs have you seen that point to that?
 
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Possibly, if it were true that only 1 division title occurred or that only 1 winning season occured. Or that either tag on was a picture of achievements during the period of time. With Wade at the helm, did or did not the team fall completely apart? Then, except for when the team lost both it's franchise quarterback and it's top offensive producer both, did the team have a single losing season for the entire time that the head coach was present?

How many division titles does Garrett have? How many playoff appearances? How many winning seasons?

1,1,0

Other than Jeff Fisher, there aren't a lot of coaches who stick around without actually winning. I am tired of the injury excuse. There are multiple examples, this year, of teams winning with third string quarterbacks. The Steelers won a game with their backup, and third string QB. They also lost Bell for the year, and Antonio Brown for some part of the season. Look at the Broncos. They lost Peyton Manning for a huge chunk of the season, and they are in the Super Bowl. Heck, even the Texans found a way to win, without Arian Foster and about 5 different QBs starting games.
 

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The Cowboys went from a 12-4 season and a playoff win in 2014 to 4-12 and that makes them a sleeping giant about to be awakened after the off-season??? :huh: They should have been wide awake heading into 2015 after a solid season that saw a playoff win. So was the plan this season to lull everyone to sleep by having a miserable year so we can take everyone by surprise next year? Where is the logic behind some of this? It's not like the Cowboys were coming off several solid seasons and just stumbled into a rotten year in 2015 they've had only one winning/playoff season in the last 6 years. From 2010 to 2013 the Cowboys missed the playoffs every year and had a losing record. After it finally "appeared" they turned the corner in 2014 with a 12-4 season and a playoff win they followed it up with the crappiest season they've had since 1989 and this is a sleeping giant about to be awakened after the off-season? lol
 

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I agree. More signs point to that outcome than the opposite. If you know what to look for.

I appreciate your optimism, but the signs - whatever they may be - get lost in the forest. And the forest is a historical pattern of sustained mediocrity and failure (with the Super Bowl being the ultimate goal of success).

So whether those changes include bringing in Bill Parcells or discovering Tony Romo or achieving the No. 1 seed in the NFC (which we had in 2007) or two stalwart No. 1 picks of DeMarcus Ware and Marcus Spears or a 12-4 season, all those changes fell short of the ultimate goal.

To expand up our analogy, maybe lightning will strike in the forest one day, hit a tree resulting in a fire that warms a lost child who uses the blaze to survive a cold night.

But you can understand if others aren't as optimistic with the probability of that happening.
 

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I appreciate your optimism, but the signs - whatever they may be - get lost in the forest. And the forest is a historical pattern of sustained mediocrity and failure (with the Super Bowl being the ultimate goal of success).

So whether those changes include bringing in Bill Parcells or discovering Tony Romo or achieving the No. 1 seed in the NFC (which we had in 2007) or two stalwart No. 1 picks of DeMarcus Ware and Marcus Spears or a 12-4 season, all those changes fell short of the ultimate goal.

To expand up our analogy, maybe lightning will strike in the forest one day, hit a tree resulting in a fire that warms a lost child who uses the blaze to survive a cold night.

But you can understand if others aren't as optimistic with the probability of that happening.

Yes I understand. But they're wrong.
 

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How many division titles does Garrett have? How many playoff appearances? How many winning seasons?

1,1,0

Other than Jeff Fisher, there aren't a lot of coaches who stick around without actually winning. I am tired of the injury excuse. There are multiple examples, this year, of teams winning with third string quarterbacks. The Steelers won a game with their backup, and third string QB. They also lost Bell for the year, and Antonio Brown for some part of the season. Look at the Broncos. They lost Peyton Manning for a huge chunk of the season, and they are in the Super Bowl. Heck, even the Texans found a way to win, without Arian Foster and about 5 different QBs starting games.

Tired of an injury 'excuse,' try getting real about it then. Which of the wide receivers qualifies for even a serious consideration by an opponent?

Just losing Michael Irvin, in a single season, just how well did Troy Aikman achieve? He was still playing.

You are cherry picking what to give relevance and credability in reasons to. By the way, what exactly was the record of the Cowboys during the season that Michael went down? No effect?
 

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Here's my opinion, and it will get cracked on, jacked up, and made fun of... we're a sleeping giant about to be awakened after this off-season. Just my two cents.

I don't know about a sleeping Giant but if this team would get into the post season next year it would not shock me. But they are going to have to play far better than they did this season on both sides of the ball and i'm not just talking about when Tony was out. They weren't that great even when he was out there. But surely 3-1 is far better than anything we did without him.
 

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Coulda, woulda, shoulda been has been theme the last 20 years.

I'm a bit sick of hearing that too but I guess that's what the rest of the 70% of the league says. IF we would've done this we would've been champions. I'm sure Browns fans probably say the same thing.......
 

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Tired of an injury 'excuse,' try getting real about it then. Which of the wide receivers qualifies for even a serious consideration by an opponent?

Just losing Michael Irvin, in a single season, just how well did Troy Aikman achieve? He was still playing.

You are cherry picking what to give relevance and credability in reasons to. By the way, what exactly was the record of the Cowboys during the season that Michael went down? No effect?

You are the one cherry picking, by bringing up a season that has no relevance today. They still made the playoffs that year, if I am not mistaken.
 
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