the second coming of the moose?...and other tidbits from Colts game

burmafrd;1180339 said:
JJ carried that LB at least 4 yds at the clinching TD drive. So questioning his willingness is stupid. As regards that running out of bounds, he was looking at the yd mkr and made it- but the ref was blocked from seeing it and gave him a bad spot. The only mistake he made the whole game was not seeing the safety on that run- he told BP he was looking elsewhere and just flat missed him. As regards barber- his ad libs get him in hot water with bp- remember that sarcastic gale sayers remark? You do it BP's way or sooner or later you are sitting or gone. I happen to think that JJ should be allowed to go with his instinct like he did in his rookie year- but thats just me.

JJ definitely didn't have the 1st on the play you're referring to, I don't see how anyone could think he did
 
gimmesix;1180041 said:
That was no linebacker. That was Dwight Freeney.

that's what I was going to say. That was one of my favorite plays, Hoyte just destroyed Freeney on that play. I watched and rewatched that play just to see that block.
Of course, I've always thought Freeney was a very overrated player and he should probably be taken out on running downs since he refuses to play the run. I think he has like a grand total of 11 tackles this year. And a lot of teams run right at him because they know he will completely vacate his starting point to get 8 yards upfield.
If Freeney played for BP, I tend to think he'd only come in on the nickel.
 
on the one hand..you can complain that Julius Jones stepped out before reaching the 1st down marker and not taking the hit instead.

On the other, he may have thought he had made it and it wasn't necessary.

..and thirdly, it's a long season to go and what we want is for JuJo to play all 16 games and stay healthy.

I'd prefer he step out and live to play the next series. I'm sure he thought he had the 1st.

No biggy.

When you see the run he made with the screen pass carrying several defenders with him to the goaline..you know he doesn't dog it and isn't avoiding contact.

The guy is tough and having a great season for us.

parcellswaterboy
 
I think when Romo is pointing out to his left he is calling out potential blitzers.
 
Cajuncowboy;1180044 said:
That was a Nate Newton specialty. Nate was always hiking his pants up. .

remember the 92 championship game at SF? They showed Nate doing it a couple times late in the game, then flashed to the booth to Norv Turner and Madden saw Turner doing the same thing

David
 
DCBoysfan;1180582 said:
I think when Romo is pointing out to his left he is calling out potential blitzers.

I was referring to Romo pointing while he's scrambling after the snap
 
Angus;1180632 said:
Thanks, groo. Very good post. Perceptive observations.

I'll do this more if I have time. I love watching the replay on Tivo and just watch certain players for the whole game. You see things that you don't see watching the game live. Like on the last slant that Glenn caught for a first down and effectively ended the game. Watching live I thought he ran at full speed like the other slants that he had run all day. But watching the replay, he actually jogged a couple steps off the line while waiting for TO and Witten to clear out the space and then he crossed behind them. Witten shielded off Glenn's defender.
 
dbair1967;1180600 said:
remember the 92 championship game at SF? They showed Nate doing it a couple times late in the game, then flashed to the booth to Norv Turner and Madden saw Turner doing the same thing

David

yes, I remember that now :laugh2:
 
arync;1180658 said:
What would happen if they ever let Hoyte run the ball?

let's not get carried away ;) ...although noone ever expects Hoyte to carry the ball, it might be a good trick play when you need one yard.
 
groo;1180792 said:
let's not get carried away ;) ...although noone ever expects Hoyte to carry the ball, it might be a good trick play when you need one yard.

On Romo's sneak for that yard that JJ left on the field, I just knew they were going to hand it off to Hoyte, or do the quick slant again. I think Hoyte could get you one or two "tough" yards.... He's mean..
 
For the moment we need to keep Hoyte looking for someone to hit, not looking for someone to miss. (like our last LB turned FB, Robert Thomas.)
 
I don't worry too much about JJ not "finishing" his runs. For the most part he hits the hole hard and runs downhill. He is very good at finishing runs for a back his size and style. Asking him to finish like MBIII is a little silly because they run so differently. It would be akin to saying that Barber needed to have the speed of JJ on that run on our last drive of the game. On the run I am speaking of, he got the ball at aprox. the 10 and had a 20 yard gain. However, if he had JJ's speed, it very well could have been a 90 yard td instead. Asking that of MBIII isn't fair because it's something that isn't in his bag of tricks.

I am thrilled with our backs and the way they are used. JJ's hard running was almost completely responsible for our first td, and largely responsible for the 2nd as well. Remember the 15 yard catch where he carried June to the 1/2 yard line? That was a physical play that wasn't a scoring play, but made the scoring play possible.
 
hoyte needs to spend this offseason learning to catch the ball so he can be a complete fb. the guy has that lb mentallity which i think serves him well as a fb.if he can learn to be a recieving threat too this offseason then we may have us another almost moose
 
conner01;1181060 said:
hoyte needs to spend this offseason learning to catch the ball so he can be a complete fb. the guy has that lb mentallity which i think serves him well as a fb.if he can learn to be a recieving threat too this offseason then we may have us another almost moose

Hoyte has at least one reception this year. Of course, he lost his balance and fell down catching it.
 
Oh_Canada;1180052 said:
Jones running out of bounds was not on of his better moments I agree.

From watching his reaction to the spot, I really do think that JJ thought he was further than he was. I feel it was a situation where the RB felt he was past the sticks, rather than a wuss play where he didn't want to get hit. We've all seen him drive into a pile too often to believe that, I hope.
 
raichledog;1181043 said:
If MBIII had JJ's speed, it very well could have been a 90 yard td instead. Asking that of MBIII isn't fair because it's something that isn't in his bag of tricks.
While Barber will never have JJ's speed, I'm thinking JJ will never see the field and react as quickly as Barber does.
 

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