The sordied past of the Manziel family.

[erod]

http://********.com/the-long-con-how-the-manziels-conquered-america-1040593220
Wow. Seems it's in the blood.

 

[Rockport]

You seem to like to dig up dirt on people.

 

[erod]

You seem to like to dig up dirt on people.

Ah, my forum stalker prairie-dogs his head once again. Uh, no, that would be ESPN Between the Lines, ********, and every media outlet on the planet right now that is "digging up the dirt" on the Manziels.

If you do an ounce of homework, I'm one of the most positive Cowboys posters on this site. I'm the 11-5 guy who thinks Garrett finally has the team rebuilt for success.

Now, how about you and I get along and talk Cowboys instead of this odd twist we seem to be in. Deal?

 

[Rockport]

Ah, my forum stalker prairie-dogs his head once again. Uh, no, that would be ESPN Between the Lines, ********, and every media outlet on the planet right now that is "digging up the dirt" on the Manziels.

Just because Dalhmer killed and ate his victims doesn't mean you have to do the same. Those outlets you mentioned sole goal is to dig up dirt on people and if it ruins their lives, whether they deserve it or not, they don't care. I don't and won't condone that and will call you out everytime you help perpetuate that kind of sports media climate.

 

[erod]

Just because Dalhmer killed and ate his victims doesn't mean you have to do the same. Those outlets you mentioned sole goal is to dig up dirt on people and if it ruins their lives, whether they deserve it or not, they don't care. I don't and won't condone that and will call you out everytime you help perpetuate that kind of sports media climate.

Dig up dirt on the Manziels? Looks like they pretty much have a history of digging their own graves. Observation and research are not the culprits here. They are.

 

[Rockport]

Dig up dirt on the Manziels? Looks like they pretty much have a history of digging their own graves. Observation and research are not the culprits here. They are.

Oh my! Look, his grandfather was a crook! Johnny must be also!! The trash media relies on people like you. Stand up and be better than that.

 

[honyock]

Oh my! Look, his grandfather was a crook! Johnny must be also!! The trash media relies on people like you. Stand up and be better than that.

Well, I guess I'm not better than that either, because I found the article fascinating (and I'm an Aggie). I thought it provided some context to see Manziel's story in a fuller light. The guy has some pretty strong family history working to nudge him in maybe a not-so-helpful direction. I hope he can fight his way through it and make some good decisions.

 

[erod]

Oh my! Look, his grandfather was a crook! Johnny must be also!! The trash media relies on people like you. Stand up and be better than that.

There is far more than that here. It's a pattern. His family has him signing so many autographs, his arm might fall off before the season. They're part of this money-making scheme, too, and more information is coming out by the second. Over 4,000 signatures in less than a month? They're at odds with Texas A&M already because they think the school owes him, as if he's the first bigtime college player to ever come along. A&M fans are getting sick of it all; many want him gone now.

Manziel has been photographed with a fake Longhorns tattoo, he's been seen throwing up hook-em signs on twitter, he's been to two UT campus parties that we know about, he's taken all his classes online....not inherently a big deal but just ask the hardcore Aggie faithful what blasphemy that is. Again, a pattern of behavior.

The guys seems to WANT to get kicked off the team. He's a life-long crazy Longhorn fan, and it seems to be driving him crazy to be an Aggie. I mean, he doesn't even need the money because his family is loaded. What is the purpose of all this?

And now there's this yarn of mafia ties that thread through his family history.

It's bizarre, and it's probably only the tip of the iceberg.

 

[burmafrd]

Oh my! Look, his grandfather was a crook! Johnny must be also!! The trash media relies on people like you. Stand up and be better than that.

you are desperately defending him. Why?

 

[Rogah]

Oh my! Look, his grandfather was a crook! Johnny must be also!! The trash media relies on people like you. Stand up and be better than that.

I'm not going to judge Johnny by the actions of his relations. I am going to judge him by his own actions.

Having said that, it's painfully obvious that he's at best ridiculously immature, and at worst a corrupt individual who took money in violation of NCAA rules and should be banned from playing.

 

[jimmy40]

There is far more than that here. It's a pattern. His family has him signing so many autographs, his arm might fall off before the season. They're part of this money-making scheme, too, and more information is coming out by the second. Over 4,000 signatures in less than a month? They're at odds with Texas A&M already because they think the school owes him, as if he's the first bigtime college player to ever come along. A&M fans are getting sick of it all; many want him gone now.

The only thing I'm hearing here in College Station from fans and students is they want Manzeil to play and they don't care if they have to vacate wins later.

 

[Rockport]

you are desperately defending him. Why?

Because he hasn't done anything worse than what I've done.

 

[Rockport]

I'm not going to judge Johnny by the actions of his relations. I am going to judge him by his own actions.

Having said that, it's painfully obvious that he's at best ridiculously immature, and at worst a corrupt individual who took money in violation of NCAA rules and should be banned from playing.

I guess you were Mr. Perfect at age 20? The media has blown all this out of proportion and you're gut hooked on it.

 

[Rogah]

I guess you were Mr. Perfect at age 20?

No, but I was a heckuva lot more mature at age 20 than Manziel is.

The media has blown all this out of proportion and you're gut hooked on it.

How have they blown it out of proportion? Do you think he's completely innocent, and absolutely no money changed hands? If anything, I think that this story is being tremendously under-reported considering the preponderance of evidence out there and the impact this would have on the upcoming season.

 

[Rockport]

No, but I was a heckuva lot more mature at age 20 than Manziel is.
How have they blown it out of proportion? Do you think he's completely innocent, and absolutely no money changed hands? If anything, I think that this story is being tremendously under-reported considering the preponderance of evidence out there and the impact this would have on the upcoming season.

If you don't know how the media has blown it out of proportion then you don't understand life. Your making a judgement on someone you do not know. Must feel pretty good sitting up high.

 

[Rogah]

If you don't know how the media has blown it out of proportion then you don't understand life.

Sorry, but this is lame. We are on a SPORTS FOOTBALL forum. Everyone in here - you and me included - place too much emphasis on the outcomes of these silly games. So get off your soapbox about lecturing the rest of us on what we understand about life. Fact of the matter is that, if anything, given the evidence against him and the consequences of his actions, the media has been DOWNPLAYING the situation. They want to see A&M-Alabama too.

Your making a judgement on someone you do not know.

I'm making a judgement based on the proven, undeniable facts of the situation. I don't know Terrelle Pryor either but I have no problem recognizing the fact that, like Manziel, he took improper benefits.

Must feel pretty good sitting up high.

I noticed you didn't man up and actually answer my question, so let me try again:

Regarding the allegations that Manziel took money for autographs, do you think he's completely innocent, and absolutely no money changed hands?

 

[Rockport]

Regarding the allegations that Manziel took money for autographs, do you think he's completely innocent, and absolutely no money changed hands?

Of course he took money. He made Texas A&M and the NCAA millions. Hopefully he covered his tracks well enough so he doesn't get caught. The NCAA's rules, in this case, are hypocritical.

 

[Rogah]

Of course he took money. He made Texas A&M and the NCAA millions. Hopefully he covered his tracks well enough so he doesn't get caught. The NCAA's rules, in this case, are hypocritical.

OK then when agree he violated one of the NCAA's most important rules regarding student-athlete conduct and apparently he didn't cover his tracks well enough so as to not get caught.. As Dez Bryant has recently reminded us, people have been given long suspensions for far less.

Whether or not the rule should be changed is irrelevant to this discussion; the rule exists and it exists for a reason. The NCAA is in a tough spot here turning a blind eye to a rich white kid when they came down so hard on the athletes of color who sold jerseys and got tattoos.

 

[Rockport]

OK then when agree he violated one of the NCAA's most important rules regarding student-athlete conduct and apparently he didn't cover his tracks well enough so as to not get caught.. As Dez Bryant has recently reminded us, people have been given long suspensions for far less.

Whether or not the rule should be changed is irrelevant to this discussion; the rule exists and it exists for a reason. The NCAA is in a tough spot here turning a blind eye to a rich white kid when they came down so hard on the athletes of color who sold jerseys and got tattoos.

There's no violation of the rules if he didn't take any money. Last I heard, there's no evidence that he did. I hope it stays that way. I'm a UT fan in case you were wondering.

 

[Rogah]

There's no violation of the rules if he didn't take any money. Last I heard, there's no evidence that he did.

Yeah. Sure. No evidence. Just 6 guys saying he did and the 4,000 autographs out there which were done out of the kindness of his heart.

If there's no evidence, then why do you admit "of course he took money" (direct quote, your words)?