The tackle on Pollard was 100% dirty

[BlindFaith]

Patrick Mahomes was injured in a similar way. Pollard's injury will likely not move the needle but it would not surprise me if the Rules Committee evaluates tackling his offseason. The last thing, owners desire, is for one of the premier faces of the league getting injured--and especially during the playoffs. In fact, I think the review will be prioritized if the Chiefs lose Sunday and it is perceived his injury helped diminish Mahomes' level of play. The league is all about the billions...

Seriously, lets just make it flag football then. No pads or helmets. Just flags.
Ward didnt go head first, didnt try to blow him up. Thats been the focus. He came in from the side, wrapped him up and his momentum carried him through Pollards legs. Perfectly clean. Unfortunate, yes. But absolutely nothing dirty about it.
What teams should be looking into is how to better protect against some of these injuries from an equipment perspective. What kind of brace is out there or could be made that would protect against high ankle sprains.
Problem is, those skill players probably wouldn't wear them anyway as they would potentially hinder them in some way.

 

[jujoboys]

Yes, the defender body movement is basically the same move as the horse collar. You just aren't jerking the player down and backwards. However, the act of swinging your hips and body into the back of the lower legs is the same. I'm not sure you can keep adding rules for tackling but it is a very dangerous way of tackling. Seattle used it quite a bit back in the day. The year we played them in the playoffs (2018-2019) that play resulted in both Cole Beasley and Allen Hurns getting hurt in the playoff game. Basically destroyed what was left of Hurns career.

 

[DallasEast]

Seriously, lets just make it flag football then.

You mean... like what the owners did to the Pro Bowl already..?

Seriously. The owners would market it as improving player safety but what would be the real reason?

Again. Billions...

 

[jujoboys]

Seriously, lets just make it flag football then. No pads or helmets. Just flags.
Ward didnt go head first, didnt try to blow him up. Thats been the focus. He came in from the side, wrapped him up and his momentum carried him through Pollards legs. Perfectly clean. Unfortunate, yes. But absolutely nothing dirty about it.
What teams should be looking into is how to better protect against some of these injuries from an equipment perspective. What kind of brace is out there or could be made that would protect against high ankle sprains.
Problem is, those skill players probably wouldn't wear them anyway as they would potentially hinder them in some way.

Yeah, I am just not sure how you can avoid some of these injuries. How do you determine if it is momentum that carries the player into the back of the legs or if it is something intentional and being taught. At some point it is football and players are going to get hurt. Now if the NFL ever gets proof that a team is teaching the technique as a way to take players out then something will need to be done. You can't have knowledge that players are intentionally using a technique to break another players leg. The Seattle playoff game against us in 2019 looked very suspicious because it happened twice to us on 2 of our receivers and neither were able to return to the game. Tore Hurns leg all up. Would not surprise me one bit if that was something Pete Carroll was having taught to his players.

 

[Creeper]

Sounds like a bunch of guys that never played football. Its a violent sport, **** happens, which is why these guys are paid millions. Military personnel risk there lives for far less money, like them the players know what ups.

What does being in the military have to do with football? The military are trained to kill. It is their job. It is real life or death. Football is a game. The horsecollar tackled was outlawed because it was leading to the same kind of injury as Pollard's. Yes, football is a violent game but they have made a bunch of rules to prevent unnecessary injuries. The fact is, the kind of tackle put on Pollard almost always results in some kind of injury. I am not saying it was intentional, only the player knows that, but it is dangerous and should be outlawed. The horsecollar tackle is not dangerous if the tackler does not drop his body on the the back of the runner's legs. But they outlawed it because most horsecollar tackle because Roy Williams was doing exactly what the 49ers tacklers did.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Yeah, I am just not sure how you can avoid some of these injuries. How do you determine if it is momentum that carries the player into the back of the legs or if it is something intentional and being taught. At some point it is football and players are going to get hurt. Now if the NFL ever gets proof that a team is teaching the technique as a way to take players out then something will need to be done. You can't have knowledge that players are intentionally using a technique to break another players leg. The Seattle playoff game against us in 2019 looked very suspicious because it happened twice to us on 2 of our receivers and neither were able to return to the game. Tore Hurns leg all up. Would not surprise me one bit if that was something Pete Carroll was having taught to his players.

No you cant (I mean there are rules that they do call on intent judgment) but thats why you just make it easy, if you behind the player and making a tackle do not leave your feat and throw your body into the back of his legs..With the hit box and such that would be the easiest thing they have asked of defensive players in years.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Numerous players have sustained serious injuries from that style of tackling. It's in the same category as a horse collar.

Numerous players have sustained serious injuries playing football.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Numerous players have sustained serious injuries playing football.

True and if they deem a certain "Play" a repeat culprit they have made rules to stop it... this falls in that catagory to me.

 

[BlindFaith]

No you cant (I mean there are rules that they do call on intent judgment) but thats why you just make it easy, if you behind the player and making a tackle do not leave your feat and throw your body into the back of his legs..With the hit box and such that would be the easiest thing they have asked of defensive players in years.

The only thing you realistically could enforce is that you have to drive through a runner when making a tackle. But that puts a defender in a tough position when trying to catch up to a runner.
Whos to say Ward would even have been able to bring Pollard down if that were the case. And we would then have yet another judgment call refs would be required to make.

 

[Seattle49er]

What does being in the military have to do with football? The military are trained to kill. It is their job. It is real life or death. Football is a game. The horsecollar tackled was outlawed because it was leading to the same kind of injury as Pollard's. Yes, football is a violent game but they have made a bunch of rules to prevent unnecessary injuries. The fact is, the kind of tackle put on Pollard almost always results in some kind of injury. I am not saying it was intentional, only the player knows that, but it is dangerous and should be outlawed. The horsecollar tackle is not dangerous if the tackler does not drop his body on the the back of the runner's legs. But they outlawed it because most horsecollar tackle because Roy Williams was doing exactly what the 49ers tacklers did.

Maybe the NFL should just start playing flag football. I understand trying to eliminate the injuries but sooner or later it will get to the point of ridiculousness. And if you think the NFL is making rules like roughing the passer to protect the QB I have beach front property in Tennessee to sell you, cheap! Rules like this are left to interpretation, meaning it can be used to steer games. How many one score games this last 4 or 5 seasons vs 10-15 years ago? Look it up, I think you'll see why the rules. Follow the money.

Back to the OP, I seriously don't think he injured Pollard on purpose. More like Karma, maybe you should talk to the two Jackhole radio jocks wishing for injuries on CMC.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Better team won.

No. The better QB won.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Maybe the NFL should just start playing flag football. I understand trying to eliminate the injuries but sooner or later it will get to the point of ridiculousness. And if you think the NFL is making rules like roughing the passer to protect the QB I have beach front property in Tennessee to sell you, cheap! Rules like this are left to interpretation, meaning it can be used to steer games. How many one score games this last 4 or 5 seasons vs 10-15 years ago? Look it up, I think you'll see why the rules. Follow the money.

Back to the OP, I seriously don't think he injured Pollard on purpose. More like Karma, maybe you should talk to the two Jackhole radio jocks wishing for injuries on CMC.

Lol dont you have an eagles forum to troll now? we are wishing bad things on our "Radio Jocks" who jinxed Pollard.. your mission has been accomplished.

 

[ottawacowpoke]

I saw a defender doing his best to bring down an extremely fast and elusive ball carrier with an unfortunate and completely unintentional end result.

 

[nightrain]

Numerous players have sustained serious injuries playing football.

You don't say.

 

[CowboyFrog]

I saw a defender doing his best to bring down an extremely fast and elusive ball carrier with an unfortunate and completely unintentional end result.

Unintentional injuries happen all the time and if the same kinda play keeps causing it they change the rule...why is this any diferent?

 

[Seattle49er]

Lol dont you have an eagles forum to troll now? we are wishing bad things on our "Radio Jocks" who jinxed Pollard.. your mission has been accomplished.

I'm sorry does the truth bother you?

 

[Praxit]

...when you sign NFL contract, it means your job is bring down opponent any way possible.

Long as its no facemask or horse-collar. It was just bad LUCK for Dallas and TP. Unfortunately.

TP happen to be in that stance and going in motion when defender was engaging.

Same happen to Debbo, Garafalo and countless others.

 

[Runwildboys]

This was a defensive player trying to stop a RB as quickly as possible. People here complain when our guys get "carried" downfield, but accuse this player of being dirty. It sucks that Pollard got hurt, and probably helped cost us the game, but I highly doubt it was intentional.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Truth. Looked dirty from the get go.

I was stoned but the way 49 defender got up pretty much told me he was ok with injury there

 

[NFCBeasts]

Nobody has mentioned anything about cheating. We're talking about the type of cattle wrangling where the aggressor used his arms to grab the ball carrier from behind and thrust his attackful body into the ball carrier's legs intentionally in order to stop him, even if it breaks his legs in the process. That was an intentional move to immediately stop the ball carrier, regardless of the physical damage done. That's not how football tackling is taught at any level, thus it should be banned and severely punished to fit the injury caused on the ball carrier. Let it get done to you from behind and have your legs broken and see if you won't be crying for a rule change afterwards.

Pay me hundreds of thousands or millions and i will line right up for you to break them !

In all honestly it gets tiring reading all the reds out to get dem boys threads …