The three battles I'll be watching closely in TC

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RDE:

We seem to have four likely suitors at the position, with Charlton and Lawrence the most likely to win. Two dark horses behind them are Tapper and Mayowa, our 2016 sack leader. Lawrence is the most accomplished rusher at the moment, and notched an 8 sack season in 2015. However that was on the left side of the line. Charlton will likely get every opportunity to win the job in TC and preseason. There is alot of intrigue in Tapper as he tested through the roof at the combine and looked good in OTA's last year before being diagnosed with Pars defect. Mayowa is a deep sleeper as he finished very strong last year, but that is also after he got benched. He will have to show alot of growth in TC and preseason to get in the fight to be the starting RDE. He may be more valuable to us as a rotation player. I would not be surprised one bit if Charlton beats out the field and is our opening day RDE


Nolan Carroll VS. Rookie CB's:

Im going to leave the top 2 (Brown and Scandrick) alone for right now. Carroll based on experience is the early favorite as there can often times can be a steep curve for rookie DB's in particular CB's. The prevailing thought is that Carroll will be a more effective CB in a zone system. We shall see. The two day 2 picks are going to push very hard for that 3rd DB spot. Awuzie is more then likely a bigger threat than Lewis as both Awuzie and Carroll are boundary CB's whereas Lewis thrives more in the slot. However you also have the thought of putting your best players on the field, and if Lewis is clearly the best of the three, they could always find a way to make it work. Could be much ado of nothing with more of a committee approch and no clear #3. We shall see.

Robert Blanton VS Young Safeties

Small potatoes yes, but I believe Blanton doesn't get a roster spot if he isnt the 3rd Safety. Awuzie's ability to play Safety may allow us to go short at Safety. That could mean a roster spot for Brown or White, two intriguing late round picks who might not make it through waivers. Blanton at this point is what he is, but Frazier and/or Woods have to make them feel comfortable about putting them on the field on defense. This could very well change with our depth at CB, but our 3rd Safety got a good volume of snaps last year. Probably more than our 4th CB ( not counting time spent in the starting lineup due to injury by Wilcox and Brown). I dont see them cutting Woods who they had rated in their top 68. Frazier, who they had highly rated last would, would likely have to completely bomb to get cut. Small potatoes, but being able to move on from Blanton may allow us to not have to expose a talented developmental rookie to waivers
 

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RDE:

We seem to have four likely suitors at the position, with Charlton and Lawrence the most likely to win. Two dark horses behind them are Tapper and Mayowa, our 2016 sack leader. Lawrence is the most accomplished rusher at the moment, and notched an 8 sack season in 2015. However that was on the left side of the line. Charlton will likely get every opportunity to win the job in TC and preseason. There is alot of intrigue in Tapper as he tested through the roof at the combine and looked good in OTA's last year before being diagnosed with Pars defect. Mayowa is a deep sleeper as he finished very strong last year, but that is also after he got benched. He will have to show alot of growth in TC and preseason to get in the fight to be the starting RDE. He may be more valuable to us as a rotation player. I would not be surprised one bit if Charlton beats out the field and is our opening day RDE


Nolan Carroll VS. Rookie CB's:

Im going to leave the top 2 (Brown and Scandrick) alone for right now. Carroll based on experience is the early favorite as there can often times can be a steep curve for rookie DB's in particular CB's. The prevailing thought is that Carroll will be a more effective CB in a zone system. We shall see. The two day 2 picks are going to push very hard for that 3rd DB spot. Awuzie is more then likely a bigger threat than Lewis as both Awuzie and Carroll are boundary CB's whereas Lewis thrives more in the slot. However you also have the thought of putting your best players on the field, and if Lewis is clearly the best of the three, they could always find a way to make it work. Could be much ado of nothing with more of a committee approch and no clear #3. We shall see.

Robert Blanton VS Young Safeties

Small potatoes yes, but I believe Blanton doesn't get a roster spot if he isnt the 3rd Safety. Awuzie's ability to play Safety may allow us to go short at Safety. That could mean a roster spot for Brown or White, two intriguing late round picks who might not make it through waivers. Blanton at this point is what he is, but Frazier and/or Woods have to make them feel comfortable about putting them on the field on defense. This could very well change with our depth at CB, but our 3rd Safety got a good volume of snaps last year. Probably more than our 4th CB ( not counting time spent in the starting lineup due to injury by Wilcox and Brown). I dont see them cutting Woods who they had rated in their top 68. Frazier, who they had highly rated last would, would likely have to completely bomb to get cut. Small potatoes, but being able to move on from Blanton may allow us to not have to expose a talented developmental rookie to waivers

nice.
lawrence may be done given his back.
not sure if scandrick has fully recovered.
blanton seems more like a box safety than any of the rookies.
when we go dime, he could be relevant.
 

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nice.
lawrence may be done given his back.
not sure if scandrick has fully recovered.
blanton seems more like a box safety than any of the rookies.
when we go dime, he could be relevant.
Lawrence's back is supposedly fine
 

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TIll preseason returns, its gonna be all eyes on Jaylon. And you can hate it or love it, but that's what its gonna be.
 

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RDE:

We seem to have four likely suitors at the position, with Charlton and Lawrence the most likely to win. Two dark horses behind them are Tapper and Mayowa, our 2016 sack leader. Lawrence is the most accomplished rusher at the moment, and notched an 8 sack season in 2015. However that was on the left side of the line. Charlton will likely get every opportunity to win the job in TC and preseason. There is alot of intrigue in Tapper as he tested through the roof at the combine and looked good in OTA's last year before being diagnosed with Pars defect. Mayowa is a deep sleeper as he finished very strong last year, but that is also after he got benched. He will have to show alot of growth in TC and preseason to get in the fight to be the starting RDE. He may be more valuable to us as a rotation player. I would not be surprised one bit if Charlton beats out the field and is our opening day RDE


Nolan Carroll VS. Rookie CB's:

Im going to leave the top 2 (Brown and Scandrick) alone for right now. Carroll based on experience is the early favorite as there can often times can be a steep curve for rookie DB's in particular CB's. The prevailing thought is that Carroll will be a more effective CB in a zone system. We shall see. The two day 2 picks are going to push very hard for that 3rd DB spot. Awuzie is more then likely a bigger threat than Lewis as both Awuzie and Carroll are boundary CB's whereas Lewis thrives more in the slot. However you also have the thought of putting your best players on the field, and if Lewis is clearly the best of the three, they could always find a way to make it work. Could be much ado of nothing with more of a committee approch and no clear #3. We shall see.

Robert Blanton VS Young Safeties

Small potatoes yes, but I believe Blanton doesn't get a roster spot if he isnt the 3rd Safety. Awuzie's ability to play Safety may allow us to go short at Safety. That could mean a roster spot for Brown or White, two intriguing late round picks who might not make it through waivers. Blanton at this point is what he is, but Frazier and/or Woods have to make them feel comfortable about putting them on the field on defense. This could very well change with our depth at CB, but our 3rd Safety got a good volume of snaps last year. Probably more than our 4th CB ( not counting time spent in the starting lineup due to injury by Wilcox and Brown). I dont see them cutting Woods who they had rated in their top 68. Frazier, who they had highly rated last would, would likely have to completely bomb to get cut. Small potatoes, but being able to move on from Blanton may allow us to not have to expose a talented developmental rookie to waivers

I have to agree with you, regarding training camp. It is going to be very interesting. That being said however, I don't look for any of these rookies to be handed a starting job in week one rolls around. Even Taco is going to be part of the rotation, just because Marinelli likes playing a DLmen. Supposedly, Carlton is going to be given some ribs on the right side. The coaching staff seems to believe he has the athleticism and overall quickness to play on that side.

I think experience will win out when it comes to secondary battles, at least for the first few weeks of the season. Once those rookies get a chance to fully acclimate to the speed of the pro game, I believe you'll see them get more and more playing time.
 

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I have to agree with you, regarding training camp. It is going to be very interesting. That being said however, I don't look for any of these rookies to be handed a starting job in week one rolls around. Even Taco is going to be part of the rotation, just because Marinelli likes playing a DLmen. Supposedly, Carlton is going to be given some ribs on the right side. The coaching staff seems to believe he has the athleticism and overall quickness to play on that side.

I think experience will win out when it comes to secondary battles, at least for the first few weeks of the season. Once those rookies get a chance to fully acclimate to the speed of the pro game, I believe you'll see them get more and more playing time.
I think Charlton is going to get more then reps, I think he has a very chance to win it.

There is too much assuming that Charlton is an LDE. I feel that is incorrect. I think he is a high end RDE
 

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TIll preseason returns, its gonna be all eyes on Jaylon. And you can hate it or love it, but that's what its gonna be.
To the media, yes.... because he has the charisma to be the face of the defense not to mention overcoming a very serious injury makes for a great story. But us REAL FANS will be watching all the new faces very closely. This year (since I'm now economically stable) I will certainly contribute to any fund raiser for members going to training camp. That's where we can get the coverage we need for sure.
 

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I think Charlton is going to get more then reps, I think he has a very chance to win it.

There is too much assuming that Charlton is an LDE. I feel that is incorrect. I think he is a high end RDE

I hope you are right. I thought Lawrence did a good job in is limited playing time last season at LDE, and I'd rather see him not moved back to the right side (even though that's where they envisioned him playing when he was drafted). I believe he and Irving would make a solid rotation at the position
 

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Ideally, DLaw is healthy and goes back to LDE and gets back to '15 form (He was second in sacks during the second half of '15). Taco is the rookie of the year at RDE. Crawford goes back inside and Irving is Rod's favorite toy that plays every spot, including the 1-tech on nickel downs and the primary backup to DLaw.
 

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I think the OP has Awuzie and Lewis mixed up. Lewis was a three year starter playing mostly press man coverage.
Awuzie excels as a nickel corner. Both are solid picks that should see the field quickly as pros.
 

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I think the OP has Awuzie and Lewis mixed up. Lewis was a three year starter playing mostly press man coverage.
Awuzie excels as a nickel corner. Both are solid picks that should see the field quickly as pros.
No Awuzie projects more as a boundary CB that can play the slot in the NFL whereas Lewis projects as more of a slot CB in the NFL
 

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No Awuzie projects more as a boundary CB that can play the slot in the NFL whereas Lewis projects as more of a slot CB in the NFL

Oh okay. You said he thrived in the slot. He played the boundary in college. Either way, both he and Awuzie are better than Carroll imo.
 

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Wouldnt count on dlaw being at training camp or playing until at least week 4.

Crawford might not be doing anything either
 

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Lawrence is a LDE IMO no matter how many times they try to tell us differently.
 

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Oh okay. You said he thrived in the slot. He played the boundary in college. Either way, both he and Awuzie are better than Carroll imo.
He can play the boundary, he has the arm length for it despite his overall size. His feet and lateral quickness make him ideal to cover the slot in the NFL.

They both should be better, but they are going to have to prove it in camp to get on the field this year
 

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He can play the boundary, he has the arm length for it despite his overall size. His feet and lateral quickness make him ideal to cover the slot in the NFL.

They both should be better, but they are going to have to prove it in camp to get on the field this year

Agreed. I'm with ya. I jumped the gun a bit after reading your breakdown. Solid picks by Dallas.
 

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RDE:

We seem to have four likely suitors at the position, with Charlton and Lawrence the most likely to win. Two dark horses behind them are Tapper and Mayowa, our 2016 sack leader. Lawrence is the most accomplished rusher at the moment, and notched an 8 sack season in 2015. However that was on the left side of the line. Charlton will likely get every opportunity to win the job in TC and preseason. There is alot of intrigue in Tapper as he tested through the roof at the combine and looked good in OTA's last year before being diagnosed with Pars defect. Mayowa is a deep sleeper as he finished very strong last year, but that is also after he got benched. He will have to show alot of growth in TC and preseason to get in the fight to be the starting RDE. He may be more valuable to us as a rotation player. I would not be surprised one bit if Charlton beats out the field and is our opening day RDE


Nolan Carroll VS. Rookie CB's:

Im going to leave the top 2 (Brown and Scandrick) alone for right now. Carroll based on experience is the early favorite as there can often times can be a steep curve for rookie DB's in particular CB's. The prevailing thought is that Carroll will be a more effective CB in a zone system. We shall see. The two day 2 picks are going to push very hard for that 3rd DB spot. Awuzie is more then likely a bigger threat than Lewis as both Awuzie and Carroll are boundary CB's whereas Lewis thrives more in the slot. However you also have the thought of putting your best players on the field, and if Lewis is clearly the best of the three, they could always find a way to make it work. Could be much ado of nothing with more of a committee approch and no clear #3. We shall see.

Robert Blanton VS Young Safeties

Small potatoes yes, but I believe Blanton doesn't get a roster spot if he isnt the 3rd Safety. Awuzie's ability to play Safety may allow us to go short at Safety. That could mean a roster spot for Brown or White, two intriguing late round picks who might not make it through waivers. Blanton at this point is what he is, but Frazier and/or Woods have to make them feel comfortable about putting them on the field on defense. This could very well change with our depth at CB, but our 3rd Safety got a good volume of snaps last year. Probably more than our 4th CB ( not counting time spent in the starting lineup due to injury by Wilcox and Brown). I dont see them cutting Woods who they had rated in their top 68. Frazier, who they had highly rated last would, would likely have to completely bomb to get cut. Small potatoes, but being able to move on from Blanton may allow us to not have to expose a talented developmental rookie to waivers
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