The Truth About the Cowboys & Free Agency in 2010

[SLATEmosphere]

Luckily, for the sake of cowboyszone, calmer (and more patient) heads are prevailing within the team's front office.

and less IQ than me.

 

[TheSport78]

So wait a minute. The Rams have financial concerns?

Say it isn't so. Every team has that.

We will soon have to back-up a Brinks truck to pay Miles Austin.

But Dallas should be expected to go out and pay some average free agent top dollar in a seller's market right now?

So why would it be excuseable for them, who have a much lower payroll than we do, but inexcuseable for the Cowboys?

You just lost all credibility with this post. Let's think about this for a moment: if we end up landing Otogwe through unrestricted or restricted free agency, Ken Hamlin is gone, which would save us a lot off the cap for this year. So you're getting rid of a mediocre player, saving money at the same time, then using that money and maybe a little more (because Otogwe > Hamlin) to sign a great player.

That's where we disagree. You think Otogwe is an "average free agent." That deserves a FAIL.

 

[Hostile]

You just lost all credibility with this post. Let's think about this for a moment: if we end up landing Otogwe through unrestricted or restricted free agency, Ken Hamlin is gone, which would save us a lot off the cap for this year. So you're getting rid of a mediocre player, saving money at the same time, then using that money and maybe a little more (because Otogwe > Hamlin) to sign a great player.

That's where we disagree. You think Otogwe is an "average free agent." That deserves a FAIL.

Actually, he nailed it.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

If Jerry saves 5 million in real dollars by cutting Hamlin and then uses that on Otogwe..What's the difference?

Otogwe is head and shoulders above Hamlin. No pun intended.

 

[TheSport78]

Actually, he nailed it.

That's great to know. Care to explain why?

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

So if they havent re-done the CBA then theres still the poison pill, no?


I do think theyre waiting to see if they can get ET R1 or Nate Allen R2 before making the Hamlin/Atogwe swap

 

[DallasEast]

and less IQ than me.

That's what I love about you, Slate. You're hilarious. :laugh2:

"And less IQ than me". :laugh1:

 

[TheSport78]

So if they havent re-done the CBA then theres still the poison pill, no?


I do think theyre waiting to see if they can get ET R1 or Nate Allen R2 before making the Hamlin/Atogwe swap

I agree totally. Even if they land Nate Allen for example in the early-to mid second (after trading down), I wouldn't be surprised for them to still keep their eye on the Otogwe/Hamlin situation because you also have Sensabaugh who's a restricted free agent. Otogwe and Nate Allen as the starters in 2011!

 

[SLATEmosphere]

That's what I love about you, Slate. You're hilarious. :laugh2:

"And less IQ than me". :laugh1:

I'm glad I entertain you.

 

[DallasEast]

That's where we disagree. You think Otogwe is an "average free agent."

If he is an "above average" or greater "free agent" (emphasis placed on his current status only), why hasn't another team already bit on the opportunity of signing him?

 

[DallasEast]

I'm glad I entertain you.

Trust me, you have. I've been waiting for more cowbell (i.e. Gaither and Atogwe wishing) to appear in this thread ever since Hostile posted it. Good stuff.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

If he is an "above average" or greater "free agent" (emphasis placed on his current status only), why hasn't another team already bit on the opportunity of signing him?

note: you get porn searching for just about anything on Google

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Having said that-

I will be upset if we trade down 6 times next year.

 

[Hostile]

That's great to know. Care to explain why?

#1. Your point was the big contract the Rams will give for the #1 pick side by side with a contract for Atogwe.

Jerry will have to give a big contract to Austin, side by side with a contract for Atogwe.

There is literally no difference in money so there was no point. He was amplifying that.

#2. He called Atogwe an "average FA" and you call that a fail. So you are therefore saying he is a star FA IO assume. Yet this cannot be defended based on the contract he is likely to get nor his overall performance, or even the contribution he has made as a difference maker. I would contend that ed Reed, Troy Polumalu, and even to a lesser extent Darren Sharper all contributed directly to wins for their teams. Atogwe did not. Unless you think his play was the difference in that lone win. All of these things define him as exactly what he said, an average FA. He's a guy stuck on a bad team, but he isn't a star.

#3. He called the NFL a "seller's market." In other words the advantage goes to the seller, not the buyer. Again he was absolutely on the money with that. That is why teams can let someone else set the market and still not lose a player. If no one does set the market then the Rams get to keep him at a pre-determined amount that we must already assume they are willing to pay or they would have simply let him walk.

The Rams hold all the high cards in this. He was right.

 

[TheSport78]

If he is an "above average" or greater "free agent" (emphasis placed on his current status only), why hasn't another team already bit on the opportunity of signing him?

The Rams tendered him with the lowest possible tender, so basically St. Louis is daring a team to sign him to a contract, and that would let the market set the price range for him, and they would probably match it. There is a point however if the Rams and Otogwe do not reach a long term deal, he would become an unrestricted free agent, which is sometime in June I believe.

Why are hardly any restricted free agents getting signed? If you think it's just Otogwe then I don't know what to say. Teams are probably weary of his shoulder rehabilitation as well. If he checks out medically well in the next couple of months, he'll be a hot name post-draft.

 

[DallasEast]

note: you get porn searching for just about anything on Google

Old Cowboys saying goes, "Even Mick can be 100% logical from time to time".

Sounds like you need stricter search settings.

 

[DallasEast]

The Rams tendered him with the lowest possible tender, so basically St. Louis is daring a team to sign him to a contract, and that would let the market set the price range for him, and they would probably match it. There is a point however if the Rams and Otogwe do not reach a long term deal, he would become an unrestricted free agent, which is sometime in June I believe.

Why are hardly any restricted free agents getting signed? If you think it's just Otogwe then I don't know what to say. Teams are probably weary of his shoulder rehabilitation as well. If he checks out medically well in the next couple of months, he'll be a hot name post-draft.

I already know. Dallas is one of those teams I inferred in my previous post...

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Old Cowboys saying goes, "Even Mick can be 100% logical from time to time".

Sounds like you need stricter search settings.

When you want him to be. I hate that mentality btw. Keith Brooking wasnt exactly a hot name.

Maybe, it would make looking for a babysitter easier but less exciting.

Same for a teacher and nurse

 

[DallasEast]

When you want him to be. I hate that mentality btw. Keith Brooking wasnt exactly a hot name.

Maybe, it would make looking for a babysitter easier but less exciting.

Same for a teacher and nurse

By comparison, (EDIT) of last offseason and this one, Brooking met a stronger need at the respective positions.

Beware of unrestricted googling. Usually, you will always get more than you bargained for.

 

[Hostile]

The Rams tendered him with the lowest possible tender, so basically St. Louis is daring a team to sign him to a contract, and that would let the market set the price range for him, and they would probably match it. There is a point however if the Rams and Otogwe do not reach a long term deal, he would become an unrestricted free agent, which is sometime in June I believe.

Why are hardly any restricted free agents getting signed? If you think it's just Otogwe then I don't know what to say. Teams are probably weary of his shoulder rehabilitation as well. If he checks out medically well in the next couple of months, he'll be a hot name post-draft.

Thank you. You just made my point for me. The question is, do you see how?