The World Cup Thread

[kmp77]

Yes it is POSSIBLE for US football games to end in a tie but that is very unusual and rarely happens. 2 of the first 3 games in the World Cup ended up in a tie. 0-0 and 1-1, really exciting stuff.

Well, ties get points so that matters. As far as being exciting, that part is debatable I'm not a huge fan of low scoring games unless the game really matters to me (US/ENGLAND 1-1 was exciting). Random teams going 0-0 or whatever isn't very exciting...but neither is a 6-3 american football game or a 1-0 baseball game.

 

[Biggems]

before all the addition of overtime, HS and college consistently ended in ties......in football.

In fact, down here in TX playoff games that ended in ties were decided by penetrations (# of advancements into the red zone)

 

[CATCH17]

Today was awesome and so is Soccer.

I'm loving this sport more and more.

USA has upside too so getting out with a draw is big.

If we make it to the final 16 we'll be the team nobody wants to play.

I just hope we start Buddle or Holden next time and not Findley.

 

[CATCH17]

before all the addition of overtime, HS and college consistently ended in ties......in football.

In fact, down here in TX playoff games that ended in ties were decided by penetrations (# of advancements into the red zone)

Let's try to use this thread to appreciate the world cup and not argue with soccer haters.

The World Cup is epic.

 

[MartinRamone]

The NCAA Basketball tournament has 64 teams (actually 65 technically) and that is all single elimination. No reason why this should not be the same. Yeah it is lawyering not to call this playoffs. Nothing else. As was pointed out they whittled 300 down to get to the world cup. The world cup is playoff equivalent whether you want to admit it or not. and that is one of the reasons why americans will not ever consider soccer a major sport here in the us. Allowing ties in playoffs.

Its a GROUP stage, you cant let the 208 nations affiliated to FIFA play the world cup. This stage is just like the regular season in nfl, you are not out if you lose one game and you dont make it to the 2nd round if you win one game. The first two teams of each group makes it to the 2nd round (where playoffs start, and a tie is NOT ALLOWED ).
Do you know what playoff means ? two teams, loser go home, the winner makes it to the next round. How is the first group group when 4 teams play against each other a playoff game ?
And you dont consider soccer as a major sport just because you are not really good at it.

 

[Hypnotoad]

There were qualification rds and such to get in to the World Cup, right? So this is the playoffs. No matter how you try to lawyer it.

There are many types of tournaments...

This one simple:

Teams qualified to get into the world cup. Now to advance to the 2nd round (which is single elimination bracket) you must be a top 2 team in your group.

Just because you don't understand something try not to piss on every ones parade.

 

[Hypnotoad]

Yes it is POSSIBLE for US football games to end in a tie but that is very unusual and rarely happens. 2 of the first 3 games in the World Cup ended up in a tie. 0-0 and 1-1, really exciting stuff.

The design of the first round is to find the teams deserving to move on. If you play 3 games and get a Draw in every game, chances are you won't move on.

Not as exciting as racing hundreds of laps or playing a 7 game series... Well not as exciting for advertisers.

 

[Temo]

Take my advice guys, don't argue with people who don't like your sport.

It's not worth your time or theirs.

 

[Temo]

As you say though, I can't see how anyone makes the US favourites. They may well win but they cant be favourites.

If you went through the teams man for man, the only player from the US that might make it into the England team would be Tim Howard.

I didn't participate in this thread, but I disagree strongly with this. If you don't think Landon Donovan could make the English national team, I don't know what game you're watching. Dempsey would surely make it on roster, though he wouldn't start.

 

[Temo]

btw, I would like to see more attacking with Donovan, Dempsey, and Altidore

Sure, if you wanna lose 6-2 US needs its mids to play defense.

Donovan and to a lesser extent Dempsey were great, they seemed to play wider than they usually do and really put pressure on England's midfielders-- especially in the second half. The US team really leverages Donovan a lot, he's by far the most important cog in the machine.

I loved Cherundolo as well today. I don't watch Bundesliga much (or at all), and his play was truly a revelation. I hope it wasn't a flash in the pan.

Other than that, the center backs still make too many mistakes, and I think everyone realizes the US was lucky to get the tie. But what the English supporters aren't saying is that while England controlled the game first half, the second half looked like a dead heat.

As usual, England overestimates their side. They're not that much better than the US-- and that's more to do with England not being as good as they think as anything else. I just don't think they're in the same league as Brazil, Spain, Argentina, or Germany (and Netherlands, perhaps?).

 

[Kobal]

Take my advice guys, don't argue with people who don't like your sport.

It's not worth your time or theirs.

:signmast:

 

[peplaw06]

I usually love watching Burm flounder around in these threads when he's clearly in over his head. But this time, I'm actually embarrassed for him.

 

[UKCowboysFan]

I didn't participate in this thread, but I disagree strongly with this. If you don't think Landon Donovan could make the English national team, I don't know what game you're watching. Dempsey would surely make it on roster, though he wouldn't start.

Donovan is good enough to make England's squad, but to be fair I was expecting Donovan to play up front, in which case he would be in direct competition with Rooney, and that's a no brainer.

If he is going to play as a wide player, then I would play him in front of Wright-Phillips every time.


Dempsey is a tough one, I'm not sure he's any better than Darren Bent or Jermain Defoe (one who is a squad player & one who isn't).

 

[burmafrd]

poor peppie, his panties really are in a wad.

I enjoy tweaking those that think soccer is really all that. Their mental contortions trying to explain why ties are allowed is fun to read.

Whether you gomers like it or not the World Cup is equivalent to playoffs. At least to people who have the necessary intelligence to see the parallels in other more interesting sports.

Just how much time do some of you spend on this site anyway? Does not look like some of you sleep much or have anything else to do.

 

[Ren]

poor peppie, his panties really are in a wad.

I enjoy tweaking those that think soccer is really all that. Their mental contortions trying to explain why ties are allowed is fun to read.

Whether you gomers like it or not the World Cup is equivalent to playoffs. At least to people who have the necessary intelligence to see the parallels in other more interesting sports.

Just how much time do some of you spend on this site anyway? Does not look like some of you sleep much or have anything else to do.

You apparently don't, but hey, don't let the stop you from ranting on about stuff you obviously know nothing about

 

[MC KAos]

If u don't like soccer why the hell are u clicking on the thread for the world
cup? Seems like the person without a life is the one that has nothing better to do than sit around talking smack about a sport they don't like, maybe it's YOU who needs to get a life!

 

[Hypnotoad]

Just how much time do some of you spend on this site anyway? Does not look like some of you sleep much or have anything else to do.

In this thread 20,000+ post user tells < 5,000 post users they spend too much time on CowboysZone and have no life...

 

[Dallaslullaby]

Still gutted that we didnt score more given the chances we had throughout

Rob Green is not a popular guy today, that is for sure :laugh2:

I thought Howard and Onyewu played very well though and kepy you guys in it at times.

Rooney as great as he is had a complete stinker

Slovenia beating Algeria makes the group very tightly poised

 

[Temo]

I didn't think Onyewu played very well, though he picked it up in the second half.

 

[peplaw06]

I enjoy tweaking those that think soccer is really all that. Their mental contortions trying to explain why ties are allowed is fun to read.

Just how much time do some of you spend on this site anyway? Does not look like some of you sleep much or have anything else to do.

You're not tweaking anyone. You're just making yourself look bad.

And you might want to look at your post count before you insult people for spending too much time on this site.

Just a tip. Ought to be fun to see your mental contortions on this one.