The worst thing about all this...

[Rack]

Is that it would be completely useless to have discussions during the offseason about what needs to be done to improve the team, cuz no matter if we get our big run stuffing NG, an ILB that can actually cover a slow TE, an OLB opposite Ware that teams can't ignore (and get away with it) or whatever... cuz the main problem will still remain.


Jerry Jones.


He obviously means well. But the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Or something.


Something Bill Parcells said when he was coaching the Cowboys... (paraphrasing) "A team has to have one voice".


Jerry Jones will never allow this. When you read/hear about players going to Jerry Jones to discuss their problems, it's undermining the coach. Jerry needs to send those players to the HC if any of those pansies try to go over the HC's head. It won't happen.


Sure we need to replace Wade (sorry, but his persona lends to the complete charminizing - aka softening - of the team. I like him as a DC, but we need a HC first, then a DC). Sure we can replace Stewart, and Reed, and Garrett. But none of it will matter as long as Jerrah keeps getting involved. He needs to sign checks and market the team. THAT'S IT.



So yay, we can get excited when JJ brings in some big name. But the underlining problem will remain. So how can we truly get excited about any moves we make?


I know some of you don't want to hear this, but our best chance for success was with Parcells. I know a lot of you blamed him for our shortcomings, but you ever stop to think maybe his coaching wasn't as effective as it should have (could have) been because of Jerry? Anyoen really believe Jerry COMPLETELY stayed out of the coaches business while BP was here? Hell, he said himself he watched film with the coaches. That's a problem IMO (not the film watching specifically).


IMO Parcells was trying to teach the team to win in december and january, and that's why he was so conservative. He wanted games close so he can teach the team to win under pressure. Sure, it's boring for the fans, but I believe it would have worked well eventually if not for Jerry getting in the way. That second "voice".

 

[Beast_from_East]

Jerry is not selling the team, so anybody that thinks there is no hope as long as Jerry owns the team is going to be very dissappointed.

If anybody cant handle Jerry in charge, then yall might want to find another team to root for because Jerry is going nowhere.

 

[28 Joker]

Give Spencer one more camp and pray that he doesn't get hurt. He can do it.

 

[Boysboy]

Funny how we weren't saying any of this after our 3-0 start, after our close, albeit impressive win at FedEx to save our season, as well as after Thanksgiving when we put together a string of wins to get back in this thing. As a matter of fact, there were numerous "Jerry for GM of the year" threads.

I've been warning you guys the same thing the last couple of weeks-of course, everyone started writing me off as some Extreme Skins "spy".

As for playing close games-that wasn't Parcells intentions IMHO. In this new NFL of parody, there's been so many close games I've seen than ever before.

 

[Rack]

Jerry is not selling the team, so anybody that thinks there is no hope as long as Jerry owns the team is going to be very dissappointed.

If anybody cant handle Jerry in charge, then yall might want to find another team to root for because Jerry is going nowhere.

That's the point.


We're gonna continue to feel the way we all feel right now, as long as he owns the team. The only hope we have is that he has an epiphany (sp?) , hires a GM and keeps his nose out of the coaches/players business.


The second part of your post was moronic so I won't even reply to it (other then this sentence).

 

[Rack]

Give Spencer one more camp and pray that he doesn't get hurt. He can do it.

I'm gonna guess you didn't even read my post.

 

[Boysboy]

That's the point.


We're gonna continue to feel the way we all feel right now, as long as he owns the team. The only hope we have is that he has an epiphany (sp?) , hires a GM and keeps his nose out of the coaches/players business.


The second part of your post was moronic so I won't even reply to it (other then this sentence).

Hopefully-he hands the keys to Stephen soon. I like SJ's hands-on approach.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Totally agree.

Want to re-think your post now?

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

I'm not sure Jerry meddling is the reason Parcells didn't succeed here. My guess is that he didn't succeed because we didn't find a QB until halfway through his last year here. If he had been here last year and this year, we would have been more successful. We might not have had the gaudy numbers last year, but I bet our playoff drought would have ended.

 

[Rack]

Totally agree.

Want to re-think your post now?

Weren't you one of the ones that wanted Parcells gone?

 

[Rack]

I'm not sure Jerry meddling is the reason Parcells didn't succeed here. My guess is that he didn't succeed because we didn't find a QB until halfway through his last year here. If he had been here last year and this year, we would have been more successful. We might not have had the gaudy numbers last year, but I bet our playoff drought would have ended.

That's definitely part of it. I agree.

 

[TwoSteppinJJ]

Jerruh should consider just chilling for 2 years... bring in whoever and just chill stay behind the scenes.

I hear what you're saying and I see where your coming from but unlike alot of other folks out there I have alot of respect for Jerruh Jones.

"Give Spencer one more camp and pray that he doesn't get hurt. He can do it."

lol... What he said!

 

[wileedog]

I'm not sure Jerry meddling is the reason Parcells didn't succeed here. My guess is that he didn't succeed because we didn't find a QB until halfway through his last year here.

And why? Because Jerry pushed and Quincy and Hutch and Henson on him instead of letting him just go and draft one - or even signing a Delhomme.

It sums up Rack's point exactly.

 

[Cochese]

Im starting to come around to your line of thinking. The one constant in these December chokes, these ballless rosters and these awful coaches is Jerry Jones.

I really dont want to believe this though, or else I have almost no reason to follow this team until Jones kicks the bucket.

 

[Boysboy]

I'm not sure Jerry meddling is the reason Parcells didn't succeed here. My guess is that he didn't succeed because we didn't find a QB until halfway through his last year here. If he had been here last year and this year, we would have been more successful. We might not have had the gaudy numbers last year, but I bet our playoff drought would have ended.

Parcells should have plugged Romo in midway through the '04 season when we weren't going anywhere-he would have at least got his feet wet...who knows how much better we would have been if this happened then? Instead, b/c we were "mathematically" alive, he just stubbornly stuck with Vinny T. Heck-remember the 2nd Skins game in '05 when we were getting blown out, but Parcells ended up not putting Romo in b/c Bledsoe lobbied Parcells to keep him in? So that was TWO years in a row.

While I appreciated what Parcells did here-it's not like he did a world beating job while Jerry was the goat all along. Parcells had his short-comings too.

 

[Beast_from_East]

That's the point.


We're gonna continue to feel the way we all feel right now, as long as he owns the team. The only hope we have is that he has an epiphany (sp?) , hires a GM and keeps his nose out of the coaches/players business.


The second part of your post was moronic so I won't even reply to it (other then this sentence).

I am not being moronic, I am being serious.

We know Jerry is not going to sell the team, both of us know that.

You say that as long as Jerry owns the team, then there is no hope.

So what you are saying is that there is no hope at all for the Cowboys, we will continue to just lose and lose and lose.

So I am simply saying that if somebody cant handle that, then they need to find another team to root for. After all, why would you root for a team if you knew ahead of time had no hope of winning???

Now diehards like me and you will keep watching, but some fans are fair-weather fans and will not remain fans if the team continues to lose, those are the people I am referring to as needing to find another team.

Like I said, I am being very serious here.

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

And why? Because Jerry pushed and Hutch and Henson on him instead of letting him just go and draft one - or even signing a Delhomme.

It sums up Rack's point exactly.

If I'm not mistaken, Parcells was onboard with the Henson deal. Hutch was signed before Parcells got here and Parcells got rid of him in a hurry. Vinny and Bledsoe were Parcells guys. But they were JAGs just as much as Quincy was.

The cupboard was bare when Parcells got here, but he quickly stocked it with his guys. They just didn't work at the QB position and when he finally did find someone, it halfway through his last year.

 

[Boysboy]

And why? Because Jerry pushed and Quincy and Hutch and Henson on him instead of letting him just go and draft one - or even signing a Delhomme.

It sums up Rack's point exactly.

Wasn't it also the same Jerry who suggested to Bill prior to the '04 season to sign a CB in FA(and there were plenty of decent ones), but Bill decided to get Pete Hunter off the PS instead?

Jerry gave him alot of leeway too, you know.

 

[Cochese]

If I'm not mistaken, Parcells was onboard with the Henson deal. Hutch was signed before Parcells got here and Parcells got rid of him in a hurry. Vinny and Bledsoe were Parcells guys. But they were JAGs just as much as Quincy was.

The cupboard was bare when Parcells got here, but he quickly stocked it with his guys. They just didn't work at the QB position and when he finally did find someone, it halfway through his last year.

Hutch went to Bill to ask 'what his role was' and that was the end of that. I dont think he ever liked Henson.

 

[ZeroClub]

Parcells' defensive scheme was a real problem. I don't think the Cowboys could have won big with that outdated and unimaginative scheme.

But I do agree about the Jerry problem. Jerry Jones in the locker room, Jerry Jones making player personel decisions, Jerry Jones undercutting his coaches, Jerry Jones setting up an organization so that the head coach can be no more than a eunuch ... these are a source of chemistry problems.

Wade Phillips is the fourth castrado Cowboys coach. Switzer, Gailey, and Campo were the first three.

The main problem isn't that Jerry can't find the right castrado.

The main problem is that Jerry wants a castrado and doesn't see that castrado coaches simply aren't healthy for team chemistry.

The good thing about Parcells was that he was not a castrado. The bad thing about Parcells as a head coach was that the game had p***** him by.