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theogt;1085148 said:
Having an agenda means wanting something to happen (or not happen). What's wrong with that?

This particular agenda - involves wanting the team to do poorly, so that an unknown quantity (that everyone is dying to hump) can come in.

That's not for me.
 

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YoMick;1085161 said:
Ok. I understand how you took it.

Let me clarify a little.

If he rebounds this week I dont have confidence in Drew achieving any level of consistency.

Does that clear it up?
It's not as muddy.

I knew what you were saying. You chose a horrible way to say it. That's all.
 

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superpunk;1085178 said:
This particular agenda - involves wanting the team to do poorly, so that an unknown quantity (that everyone is dying to hump) can come in.

That's not for me.

theogt;1085157 said:
Well, if you believe that Bledsoe is less likely to "prove us wrong" than not, then him having a single good game (and thus buying him an extra couple of weeks until we find out what we have in Romo) would be a "worse" option than finding out sooner rather than later. Obviously not the worst thing, but that's hyperbole for ya.
It makes sense logically that if you think Bledsoe is less likely to "prove us wrong" than not, then you'd want him to have a bad game and force Parcells's hand.
 

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theogt;1085169 said:
Overreacting to hyperbole on the internet must take a lot of time.

*Looks at Hos's post count*

;)
Guilty in some respects. But there are plenty of other outlets as well.
 

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I get both sides of this and nobody is gonna pull anybody from one to the other. It's another QB debate. I'm never gonna pull for the Cowboys to lose just for draft position. That is a losers mentality. I think the 2 factions on this board are more along the lines that some assume Bledsoe can recover from this and take us to the promise land, and some assume he will lead us in circles and we stay in purgatory. Problem is, until the season is over none of us are right no matter how smart we all may think we are. Here's to agreein to disagree. But having one opinion or the other makes none of us stupid we just don't have the end result yet.
 

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theogt;1085184 said:
It makes sense logically that if you think Bledsoe is less likely to "prove us wrong" than not, then you'd want him to have a bad game and force Parcells's hand.
I wouldn't. I never want a player to have a bad game. I just can't do that. It makes no sense to me at all.
 

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theogt;1085184 said:
It makes sense logically that if you think Bledsoe is less likely to "prove us wrong" than not, then you'd want him to have a bad game and force Parcells's hand.

Or, you could just hope that Romo proves he's the better option - and forces Parcells hand.

I can't see a scenario where a player sucks so bad, that the coach is forced to put in an inferior player is a good thing. Sorry, I just don't see it. If Romo was better than Bledsoe - he'd be in the game on Sunday.

He's not. So he isn't.
 

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superpunk;1085189 said:
Or, you could just hope that Romo proves he's the better option - and forces Parcells hand.

I can't see a player sucking so bad that the coach is forced to put in an inferior player as a good thing. Sorry, I just don't see it. If Romo was better than Bledsoe - he'd be in the game on Sunday.

He's not. So he isn't.
I'm not sure that this last point is true. Romo could outperform Bledsoe every single day, but with Parcells he might not get his shot (right now). You can tell from Parcells's comments that he's getting closer to that decision, but he'd rather go with the "safe" option even if the "right" answer is staring him in the face.
 

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theogt;1085195 said:
I'm not sure that this last point is true. Romo could outperform Bledsoe every single day, but with Parcells he might not get his shot. You can tell from Parcells's comments that he's getting closer to that decision, but he'd rather go with the "safe" option even if the "right" answer is staring him in the face.

This suggests that Parcells prefers not giving himself the best chance to win.

We all thought this might be happening with henson. He can barely find work. Some thought it might have been true with Carter and Vinny. Turns out, Carter can't find work, either.

The best player plays with Parcells, all the time. I have no reason to believe otherwise. Romo is not better than Bledsoe right now. Unless the QB we're seeing in these two road games really IS Bledsoe, at this stage in his career. That is entirely possible, however unlikely. I don't think that judgement can be made, yet.

When Romo is the better option, he will play.
 

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theogt;1085195 said:
I'm not sure that this last point is true. Romo could outperform Bledsoe every single day, but with Parcells he might not get his shot (right now). You can tell from Parcells's comments that he's getting closer to that decision, but he'd rather go with the "safe" option even if the "right" answer is staring him in the face.

Yes. That equals SCARED to me... "safe" is scared... from BP's standpoint
 

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YoMick;1085072 said:
Bledsoe bouncing back this week...

The ONLY way Bledsoe has ANY chance of leading this team ANYWHERE is...........


he has to get rid of the ball... and I dont mean throw it away.... I mean some quick release, quick catch options.... that net us 5 yards per....

Yeah I would be really mad if he has a good week, after all that means we probably win and heaven forbid that happens.
 

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superpunk;1085205 said:
This suggests that Parcells prefers not giving himself the best chance to win.

We all thought this might be happening with henson. He can barely find work. Some thought it might have been true with Carter and Vinny. Turns out, Carter can't find work, either.

The best player plays with Parcells, all the time. I have no reason to believe otherwise. Romo is not better than Bledsoe right now. Unless the QB we're seeing in these two road games really IS Bledsoe, at this stage in his career. That is entirely possible, however unlikely. I don't think that judgement can be made, yet.

When Romo is the better option, he will play.

How are you ever going to know that, though, if you never let Romo on the field? Practice isn't a fair gauge, because the starter gets 90% of the snaps with the first team during the season.

I'm so tired of this "best chance to win". I want the best chance to win Super Bowls, not the best chance to win nine games a year.
 

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Chocolate Lab;1085305 said:
How are you ever going to know that, though, if you never let Romo on the field? Practice isn't a fair gauge, because the starter gets 90% of the snaps with the first team during the season.

I'm so tired of this "best chance to win". I want the best chance to win Super Bowls, not the best chance to win nine games a year.

We're back to that again.

Heard the same thing with Henson. How do you know he can't play if he doesn't see the field?

The head coach knows.
 

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superpunk;1085309 said:
We're back to that again.

Heard the same thing with Henson. How do you know he can't play if he doesn't see the field?

The head coach knows.
But you aren't comparing Henson to Romo, are you? Parcells clearly likes Romo, and clearly didn't like Henson (with good reason). The coach himself has told us many times this year that he's getting Romo ready to play.
 

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Chocolate Lab;1085316 said:
But you aren't comparing Henson to Romo, are you? Parcells clearly likes Romo, and clearly didn't like Henson (with good reason). The coach himself has told us many times this year that he's getting Romo ready to play.

IIRC, I don't think he's said he's getting Romo ready to play. I believe it was more along the lines of "We need to see what we've got". That was important for the contract extension, IMO.

It has nothing to do with personal preference. The best player plays, always, with Parcells. When it is definitive that Romo is the best player, he'll be in, immediately. I think Bledsoe knows that, and I think that's in the back of Parcells' mind right now. But two uncharacteristic games for Bledsoe isn't enough to make that call, ya know? That's knee-jerk, and could do damage to the clubhouse, considering how popular Drew is. If he keeps it up, the move will be easy, warranted, and understood by all.
 

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superpunk;1085323 said:
IIRC, I don't think he's said he's getting Romo ready to play. I believe it was more along the lines of "We need to see what we've got". That was important for the contract extension, IMO.

It has nothing to do with personal preference. The best player plays, always, with Parcells. When it is definitive that Romo is the best player, he'll be in, immediately. I think Bledsoe knows that, and I think that's in the back of Parcells' mind right now. But two uncharacteristic games for Bledsoe isn't enough to make that call, ya know? That's knee-jerk, and could do damage to the clubhouse, considering how popular Drew is. If he keeps it up, the move will be easy, warranted, and understood by all.

http://www.google.com/search?q=parc...ient=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

If the link doesn't work, try looking for some stories from after the Jax game. (Doesn't that seem like so long ago?)

I don't have any personal preference either. I just want the guy who might have a future. And If Romo is any good, as Parcells has told us, I don't want to make this change when we're 7-7 and it's too late.
 

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Chocolate Lab;1085332 said:
http://www.google.com/search?q=parc...ient=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

If the link doesn't work, try looking for some stories from after the Jax game. (Doesn't that seem like so long ago?)

I don't have any personal preference either. I just want the guy who might have a future. And If Romo is any good, as Parcells has told us, I don't want to make this change when we're 7-7 and it's too late.

Thanks for the link.

It's not like I'm a staunch Bledsoe supporter. I almost can't stand watching him. I just don't believe two terrible games is reason to bench the guy you were planning on riding this season. I think that is terrible for the team. Bledsoe is a leader on the team, for better or worse, and alot of players like him alot. Even with those ties, those players can see eventually that he's not getting it done, and even that he's not going to get it done ever. At that point, if it comes, Parcells will make the switch, and it will be received well.

I'm as giddy to see Romo as anyone. But you can't come back from that. Once Bledsoe's out - he's out.
 

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superpunk;1085349 said:
I'm as giddy to see Romo as anyone. But you can't come back from that. Once Bledsoe's out - he's out.
I agree... And I also agree that we're between a rock and a hard place. We know our guy now can't win it all for us, and chances are his backup can't either.

Personally, I doubt Romo is any more than the Jeff Rutledge type that Parcells compared him to, but if he's something special, we need to know.

And if he's not, we need to know that, too.
 

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Chocolate Lab;1085364 said:
I agree... And I also agree that we're between a rock and a hard place. We know our guy now can't win it all for us, and chances are his backup can't either.

Personally, I doubt Romo is any more than the Jeff Rutledge type that Parcells compared him to, but if he's something special, we need to know.

And if he's not, we need to know that, too.

I'm pretty confident Parcells already knows. He knew what Henson was - he knows what Romo is. He could know that Romo's really something, and it's just not the right time, all things considered. But I'd bet Parcells knows exactly what Romo is.
 
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