The WR market is becoming similar to the RB market

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I have learned that the WR market (excluding the AJ Brown deal) is becoming similar to the running back market. Think about it. The Cardinals ended up cutting Hopkins. We traded Cooper away for a 5, but got Cooks for a 5 in a trade this year. OBJ ended up getting cut by the Browns. Plus, it makes sense. The draft usually has a lot of WRs. So, unless it's a top tier WR like AJ Brown or CeeDee Lamb where it's a player that would be incredibly hard to replace, I think it's more likely that WRs will become similar in market to RBs. Sure, they don't have the short shelf life that a RB does, but there are usually lots of WRs to choose in the draft. So, I could also see a scenario some time soon where WRs begin to not receive massive contracts (unless it's a rare WR) so that teams don't have to worry about cuts so much with them.
 

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I have learned that the WR market (excluding the AJ Brown deal) is becoming similar to the running back market. Think about it. The Cardinals ended up cutting Hopkins. We traded Cooper away for a 5, but got Cooks for a 5 in a trade this year. OBJ ended up getting cut by the Browns. Plus, it makes sense. The draft usually has a lot of WRs. So, unless it's a top tier WR like AJ Brown or CeeDee Lamb where it's a player that would be incredibly hard to replace, I think it's more likely that WRs will become similar in market to RBs. Sure, they don't have the short shelf life that a RB does, but there are usually lots of WRs to choose in the draft. So, I could also see a scenario some time soon where WRs begin to not receive massive contracts (unless it's a rare WR) so that teams don't have to worry about cuts so much with them.
difference is are they in their prime and not injury prone so when we traded FOR Coop it was very different then when we got rid of him same with Dhop coming to the cards vs leaving. Things change age and cost come into play.

AJ was more like the trade we did for him from the raiders, so it was a good trade. these others are for WRs up in age and salary. 2 years from now if the eagles want to go young and resign Devonta smith to big dea,l AJ will be cut or traded for smaller deal. its the way of sports really. all positions see we got Gilmore cheaper then Ramseys went for age and salary came into it..
 

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I have learned that the WR market (excluding the AJ Brown deal) is becoming similar to the running back market. Think about it. The Cardinals ended up cutting Hopkins. We traded Cooper away for a 5, but got Cooks for a 5 in a trade this year. OBJ ended up getting cut by the Browns. Plus, it makes sense. The draft usually has a lot of WRs. So, unless it's a top tier WR like AJ Brown or CeeDee Lamb where it's a player that would be incredibly hard to replace, I think it's more likely that WRs will become similar in market to RBs. Sure, they don't have the short shelf life that a RB does, but there are usually lots of WRs to choose in the draft. So, I could also see a scenario some time soon where WRs begin to not receive massive contracts (unless it's a rare WR) so that teams don't have to worry about cuts so much with them.
It’s not.

Hollywood Brown was for a 1st rounder.
Davante was for a 1st and 2nd.
Aj Brown was for a 1st.
Tyreke Hill was for a 1st, 2nd, 4th


Amari, Cooks and Hopkins just represent aging receivers who teams don’t want to pay big money for.
 

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I have learned that the WR market (excluding the AJ Brown deal) is becoming similar to the running back market. Think about it. The Cardinals ended up cutting Hopkins. We traded Cooper away for a 5, but got Cooks for a 5 in a trade this year. OBJ ended up getting cut by the Browns. Plus, it makes sense. The draft usually has a lot of WRs. So, unless it's a top tier WR like AJ Brown or CeeDee Lamb where it's a player that would be incredibly hard to replace, I think it's more likely that WRs will become similar in market to RBs. Sure, they don't have the short shelf life that a RB does, but there are usually lots of WRs to choose in the draft. So, I could also see a scenario some time soon where WRs begin to not receive massive contracts (unless it's a rare WR) so that teams don't have to worry about cuts so much with them.
Will be interesting to watch how it continues to play out.
 

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I think it’s the exact opposite. AJ was traded for a haul and had a dramatic effect on Philadelphia’s chances. Tyreek Hill was traded for a haul and had a dramatic effect on Miami’s chances. Davante Adams was traded for a haul and should have improved LV’s chances if they had a better QB, but he still had a first team All Pro season. Teams recognize that you can’t simply get a true #1 WR in the middle rounds of the draft like you can RB, despite all the talent coming out every year at the position. Jamar Chase was a 1st rounder, AJ a 2, DK a 2, Deebo a 2, CeeDee a 1, Jefferson a 1, Adams a 2, Hopkins a 1, DeVonta a 1, Waddle a 1, OBJ a 1. It’s rare to find these talents later, unlike Pollard, unlike Pacheco, unlike Jonathan Taylor and Austin Ekeler and Roschon.

WR is the second highest paid position next to QB, and that should only continue. Deandre Hopkins was a unique scenario where his contract structure was so bad that Arizona had trouble moving him. Like Derek Carr; does Derek Carr’s situation make you think QBs aren’t valuable anymore? Virtually everyone in the media is chastising Arizona for not getting any assets in return; a reaction that won’t happen for Dalvin Cook. Two positions going in different directions
 
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Amari, Cooks and Hopkins just represent aging receivers who teams don’t want to pay big money for.
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It’s not.

Hollywood Brown was for a 1st rounder.
Davante was for a 1st and 2nd.
Aj Brown was for a 1st.
Tyreke Hill was for a 1st, 2nd, 4th


Amari, Cooks and Hopkins just represent aging receivers who teams don’t want to pay big money for.
Yes, as far as aging goes, but I can see it trickling like it did with RBs.
 

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Based on what? Amari and D.Hop doesn’t back this claim up.

I may be off base. I was thinking based on the older WRs being traded for little or cut could begin to trickle down before long. My thinking is because of the massive amounts of money that WRs are being paid now. If you look at the draft, there are a lot of WRs that hit the draft market. So, I could see GMs take the approach of trade or cutting a WR and drafting one younger instead of signing a WR to massive money. I think this would start a trickle down similar to what happened to RBs.
 

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Think about it, it does make sense

Exactly, obviously, the top 10 WRs will be a high value as long as they're young. However, as they get older (30s+), they can become a bit easier to replace with younger WRs. At that point, a team is more likely (unless that player has significant tread remaining) to opt for the younger WR(s) over the older ones. I doubt Coop leaves if not for the FO having a lot of faith in Lamb. Thus, he became as valuable as a running back seeking a second a second contract.
 

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I have learned that the WR market (excluding the AJ Brown deal) is becoming similar to the running back market. Think about it. The Cardinals ended up cutting Hopkins. We traded Cooper away for a 5, but got Cooks for a 5 in a trade this year. OBJ ended up getting cut by the Browns. Plus, it makes sense. The draft usually has a lot of WRs. So, unless it's a top tier WR like AJ Brown or CeeDee Lamb where it's a player that would be incredibly hard to replace, I think it's more likely that WRs will become similar in market to RBs. Sure, they don't have the short shelf life that a RB does, but there are usually lots of WRs to choose in the draft. So, I could also see a scenario some time soon where WRs begin to not receive massive contracts (unless it's a rare WR) so that teams don't have to worry about cuts so much with them.
You really missed the mark on this one. No way is the WR market becoming similar to the RB market. Not even close! WRs are being traded and released because teams can’t afford to pay the skyrocketing WR salaries. Only QB salaries are skyrocketing more than WR salaries. It’s hard to pay both a franchise QB and an elite WR. Teams are moving on from RBs because they have a short shelf life and the NFL is a passing league and teams don’t run the ball like they used to. Quality RBs can be found pretty easily and most teams are using a two back system. Although a couple of RBs went in the first round this past April, you don’t see that very often anymore. Teams don’t like investing high picks and paying big money for RBs because it may only take 4 or 5 years for them to hit the wall. The Browns moved on from OBJ because he wasn’t producing, was suffering injuries and had baggage. The same with the Cardinals and DeAndre Hopkins, minus the baggage. WR is one of the most coveted positions in the NFL but not with RBs.
 
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You need at least one legit WR1 at all times so that the D rolls coverage. Rookies sometimes can jump in and do it but usually it takes a couple years, as opposed to RBs, who can come in and have the best season of their career as a rookie often times.
 
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