Theory: Here comes Parcells and Ireland after our guys again.

[Cowboys22]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/fins-firing-scouts/


Where do you think they are going to look for replacements?

 

[Hostile]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/fins-firing-scouts/


Where do you think they are going to look for replacements?

They already did. Brian Graine (sp?) followed Ireland over. He will be their guy from here forward.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

BP does not have any loyality or feelings.....all business and trying to win

 

[Cowboys22]

They already did. Brian Graine (sp?) followed Ireland over. He will be their guy from here forward.

They didn't take any regional scouts from us which is what they just got rid of. Ireland is going to want what he perceives as his guys to replace them. That means coming after Dallas scouts. I hope Jerry has them locked up and they have some loyalty.

 

[iceberg]

BP does not have any loyality or feelings.....all business and trying to win

i didn't hear too many complaints when he was helping us with that, so i hope people just realize what goes around comes around and that jones will lock up who he feels is vital at this point. the article also just says 3 scouts were fired. the "assumption" he's coming this way for more coaches is just speculation.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

i didn't hear too many complaints when he was helping us with that, so i hope people just realize what goes around comes around and that jones will lock up who he feels is vital at this point. the article also just says 3 scouts were fired. the "assumption" he's coming this way for more coaches is just speculation.

Slushy, IMHO, those guys who went to Miama are fools.

Parcells is gonna muck it up even more and then leave in 2-3 years in frustration and those guys will be out in the cold (so to speak).
Jerra shows loyalty (almost too much) for his guys. Their prospects were better here than in Miama where they are years away from being competitive.

 

[DCfaninDC]

Slushy, IMHO, those guys who went to Miama are fools.

Parcells is gonna muck it up even more and then leave in 2-3 years in frustration and those guys will be out in the cold (so to speak).
Jerra shows loyalty (almost too much) for his guys. Their prospects were better here than in Miama where they are years away from being competitive.

Oh yeah, just like he "mucked it up" here and turned a 5-11 (3 years in a row) team to a legit power house to be reconned with int he NFC. Yeah, I am sure the the Fins fans would be really "sad" with that kind of "mucking up".

 

[sacase]

So what exactly does Ireland do?

 

[Hostile]

Oh yeah, just like he "mucked it up" here and turned a 5-11 (3 years in a row) team to a legit power house to be reconned with int he NFC. Yeah, I am sure the the Fins fans would be really "sad" with that kind of "mucking up".

From 1-15 there's nowhere to go but up. Larry Lacewell on his drunkest day with Campo as his Head Coach and Bruce Coslett as the OC could probably improve on 1-15.

 

[sago1]

Ireland followed Parcells cause there is (supposedly) in charge of running the team including drafting, etc. But of course we all know who really runs the Dolphins and it's not Ireland. Well, now Parcells can bring in all the players he can get his hands on, and all the coaches. We'll see how good Sparano really is and the others as well. Parcells dafted some good players for us but he also made some mistakes which set us back.

 

[sago1]

You said Larry Lacewell could improve Miami. Well, let's not get carried away here. Knowing Lacewell was even in the Cowboy conference room during the draft made by uneasy.

 

[Hostile]

They didn't take any regional scouts from us which is what they just got rid of. Ireland is going to want what he perceives as his guys to replace them. That means coming after Dallas scouts. I hope Jerry has them locked up and they have some loyalty.

He was a regional scout here.

 

[DCfaninDC]

From 1-15 there's nowhere to go but up. Larry Lacewell on his drunkest day with Campo as his Head Coach and Bruce Coslett as the OC could probably improve on 1-15.

BP might not be the best coach out there, but he damn sure knows talent when he sees it. This time he is only shopping for the ingredients and letteing others take care of the rest.

I am sure that whatever moves he made, he will improve the Fins record. I can't say that Dallas would have had that kind of a turnaround and the quick if that was some other coach.

 

[Cowboys22]

He was a regional scout here.

I believe Gaine was in charge of evaluating pro players not college players. I'm almost positive he was not a regional scout but I guess I could be wrong. I remember when Jerry let him go thinking that Miami will now now everything there is to know about what free agents Dallas is looking at.

Edit:

I just looked it up. Brian Gaine was Assistant Director of Pro Personnel. He took the same job with Miami. He was not a regional scout.

 

[Juke99]

From 1-15 there's nowhere to go but up. Larry Lacewell on his drunkest day with Campo as his Head Coach and Bruce Coslett as the OC could probably improve on 1-15.

On the nosey.

I have always felt that the real talent of Parcells was self promotion.

He has always taken over teams that were rock bottom with no where to go but up. Notice, Tampa was courting him, he didn't go there. The Bucs job would have come with expectations.

 

[LarryCanadian]

I'm a Parcells fan (never learned more than when listening to his press conferences) and he's a master motivator and team builder. He likes his guys/vets more than I do, but that is his style and it has worked numerous times so that's just his way.

But........

Parcells is a bit of a sheister. He flat out lies at times (usually with a plan in mind). The other thing I don't love is that he can be lured out of "retirement" after he has said he's too old or too ill or too tired etc etc. He's done this a couple times now. The layoff is usually 6 months to 1 year. Everyone is sympathetic etc.

Well, he left some unfinished business here in Dallas. I give him credit for at least partially realizing the fit with his team mentallity wasn't perfect at the end there, but he did QUIT on us.

Next thing you know he's back, and up to his old tricks. Not something that Jerry is probably loving, but he understands the business. Now do you really feel that Parcells is working any less in Miami than he did here? Does he have any less control. I don't think that Miami's coaches are even mentioned by the media. Everyone assumes Parcells is in complete control, and he pretty much must be having handpicked coaches/scouts, and now some players.

That's why his poaching is a bit annoying. Dallas was suppossed to be his last hurrah, no? He didn't have the energy for football, MY ***! Now he's a pain because he's an "enemy". Imagine if he was doing this for Washington or Phili, I think everyone would be a tad more up in arms, hehe!

Football, it's his life. He will do it till he dies. And I respect him for it, but he wanted out of Dallas and left things unfinished here. Fortunately, his style of coaching where his team is in every game, but so is the other team, probably does not fit what we are trying to do or have now built in Dallas. To give him credit, he and Jerry probably recognized that. Most fans of the Cowboys, don't want to see 10-6 with every game decided by a field goal in the last 3 minutes. We want the early 90's, where we'd crap kick most team and scare the hell outta everyone.

LarryCanadian

 

[cml750]

BP might not be the best coach out there, but he damn sure knows talent when he sees it.

Yea he plucked gems like Jacob Rogers, Al Johnson, S. Peterman, Fasano, and Carpenter all the while he was giving us 2 1/2 years of Incepteverde and Bledslow while Romo was holding a clipboard. The best pickups from his tenure here (Newman, Ware, and Romo) were not his first choices. I do however give him full credit for Witten and MBIII. He gets way too much credit for his talent evaluations. His strong point is picking teams that have nowhere to go but up. He rides them up the ladder and then leaves. His best coaching jobs were done when he didn't "Buy the groceries".

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

From 1-15 there's nowhere to go but up. Larry Lacewell on his drunkest day with Campo as his Head Coach and Bruce Coslett as the OC could probably improve on 1-15.

Is there such a thing as 1.5 -14.5?

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

BP does not have any loyality or feelings.....all business and trying to win

Yep... and he taught it to Payton.

Then Payton rammed it up Bill's **** in that game the year before last.

 

[Echo9]

From 1-15 there's nowhere to go but up. Larry Lacewell on his drunkest day with Campo as his Head Coach and Bruce Coslett as the OC could probably improve on 1-15.

Oh. I wouldn't bet on that.

That is one heck of a Trifecta.