Theory on Parcells use of MBIII

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burmafrd;1242482 said:
Then why has BP not said anything? Why has he kept JJ starting? Why has he not done anything?

I don't know. Here's another question for you. Why did BP not start Romo at the start of the year or at least make it an open competition in TC?

Now mind you, I am not interested in seeing MB go for the whole game. I do like the two back approach. However, I will say that JJ is not the complimentary back we need for MB. MB is our thunder back. We can do better for our lightning.
 

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Loved the thunder and lightning analogy and totally agree with it cause it's what I've been saying. As for Parcells saying JJ is running like he wants him too, well I sure hope he enjoyed the roughly 26 yards JJ picked up against the Falcons. Guess Parcells enjoyed it so much he give MBIII a lot more carries.
 

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S.B. Bound;1242402 said:
Can you say Ricky Waters, MB runs exactly like the guy.
That's an interesting comparison. Body lean seems similiar.
 

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burmafrd;1242492 said:
MB is bigger and stronger - no arguement. He SHOULD break arm tackles more. You keep trying to credit MB with all sorts of things that have no factual evidence to back it up. especially statements by opposing players that have to be taken with a grain of salt. Between the 20's, you notice that unless the D is worn out in the 4th, MB does no better then JJ does. The O line does not seem to like to run block untill they get to the red zone.


The fact is other players said it and more people are starting to see it around the league. I can dig up the thread if you'd like but then again, you said we should take those quotes with a grain of salt right.

OK. According to you, the O line only run blocks within the 20 yard line and only when the defenses are worn down in the 4th. If that's the case, we should be using JJ more because of the "threat" of him breaking a big one and sealing the game should be greater in the 4th. Wouldn't this be obvious to even Pop Warner coaches? Use your best back when the opposing team can no longer defend the run. Why keep the game close? Bring JJ back in the game in the 4th and let him break a couple of long ones against a tired defense so we can put the games out of reach.

Point blank. JJ is not a scat back. He is not extremely elusive. He is a cut back runner but lacks the power of Tiki and lacks the elusivness and field vision of Warrick Dunn or Brian Westbrook. Only one of the mentioned backs are elite backs in this league so I am not setting the bar too high here. JJ is not the most aggressive runner that I've seen and the only argument that people can say about JJ is that he is a "threat" to break one. Well while the above backs are doing what they do, I am still waiting on JJ to do something on a regular basis besides run into the the rearends of his O line and play dead.

Come playoff time we will see who BP goes with for the majority of the runs. I am willing to bet it's MB. I will then see what your reasoning for this is.
 

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MBIII would not be the same runner as the starter getting 25 carries a game. He runs to hard and as some have put it "violent" to get that many carries. He would either tire out and lose that edge or get hurt. I think he should get around 15 carries a game especially in the redzone and then go get someone better to split carries with him.
 

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Julius Jones is a high quality 3rd down / passing situation back who has been miscast as a starting RB.
 

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Cowboys22;1242534 said:
MBIII would not be the same runner as the starter getting 25 carries a game. He runs to hard and as some have put it "violent" to get that many carries. He would either tire out and lose that edge or get hurt. I think he should get around 15 carries a game especially in the redzone and then go get someone better to split carries with him.

Agreed.
 

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There has been talk that JJ should be fresher as the season progresses splitting time with MB3.

Just a thought but maybe MB3's legs are the ones BP has been concerned with keeping fresh all along.
 

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Love how people keep claiming their opinions are Facts. Just more bs from gomers.
 

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MONT17;1242374 said:
MB3 runs like he is in a street fight... I hope BP keeps on the bench as well and next year draft or sign a RB who can really share carries with MB3!!!

MB3 will come alive in the post season and remind many of a little Emmitt!!!

Little? Dude, Barber's 6' tall and weighs 220 lbs.

Screw The Hall;1242757 said:
Just a thought but maybe MB3's legs are the ones BP has been concerned with keeping fresh all along.

This is Parcells' motivation. He is determined to put his strongest foot forward in the 4th quarter.
 

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Martice;1242507 said:
I don't know. Here's another question for you. Why did BP not start Romo at the start of the year or at least make it an open competition in TC?

Now mind you, I am not interested in seeing MB go for the whole game. I do like the two back approach. However, I will say that JJ is not the complimentary back we need for MB. MB is our thunder back. We can do better for our lightning.


Well said. I agree completely. BUT... right now MB3 Player is our "lightning" as well as our "thunder".... JJ is downright hard to watch.... he is the "drizzle"
 

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Plenty of lightning on that 77 yd run. Now how long is MB's career run?
 

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playmakers;1242370 said:
Ill use an anology of a caged pit bull locked in a cage for the day hungry and when hes let out that pit bull is a sailvating, animal nut case. Thats the way MBIII runs in my opinion. When Julius is in he's like a caged animal salivating and when he's let loose, look out. If he's the starter he might lose an edge. The dude runs peeved off and has earned every right to start. Why does Bill give Juilus the majority of carries? MBIII is a BP type player. I know he sees the home run play ability in Jones but its like "come on Julius, we're waiting." Opinions


By the way.... your analogy is dead on balls accurate.

MB3 = Pit Bull

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Endzone = Steak
 

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Look, Barber is a good 4th Quater/Redzone back. People are scared of MBIII because they know when he comes it, it is in the redzone and he gets into the Endzone. JJ is a good starter. Other teams have to watch out since he can hot the home run. Barber comes in when the Defense is tired and he is fresh and pounds it down their throat. That is why Barber gets all of his yards.
 

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sacase;1242928 said:
Look, Barber is a good 4th Quater/Redzone back. People are scared of MBIII because they know when he comes it, it is in the redzone and he gets into the Endzone. JJ is a good starter. Other teams have to watch out since he can hot the home run. Barber comes in when the Defense is tired and he is fresh and pounds it down their throat. That is why Barber gets all of his yards.


I hear ya and get your point... but is it that cut and dry?
 

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playmakers;1242370 said:
Ill use an anology of a caged pit bull locked in a cage for the day hungry and when hes let out that pit bull is a sailvating, animal nut case. Thats the way MBIII runs in my opinion. When Julius is in he's like a caged animal salivating and when he's let loose, look out. If he's the starter he might lose an edge. The dude runs peeved off and has earned every right to start. Why does Bill give Juilus the majority of carries? MBIII is a BP type player. I know he sees the home run play ability in Jones but its like "come on Julius, we're waiting." Opinions
better theory than most (like the ANALyst Deion crying a river for MB3 to start) and no doubt Tuna factors that in. He's got a pitbull salivating near the endzone.... why screw and dilute that (especially as the game goes on and DL tires).

TUNA LIKES/WANTS/NEEDS TWO BACKS. He'd really prefer THREE (ie. megget type)

The whole "starter" thing is irrelevant in this offense.
 
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