theory on Romo's last interception

[quaigs]

What I would like to know is what the Giants were thinking when they called that play? They are getting gashed by the run and they decided to keep their safety back at an insanely far distance from the LOS, where we should have instantly audibled to a run, and gashed them some more. Was it just blind luck, or did they some how steal the play while it was being called in. It really doesn't make any sense.

 

[quaigs]

My question would be since when is it intelligent to use your fourth best WR for the killshot? And if you look at the play again, Hurd wasn't even that open for Romo to throw that pass even if it was single coverage and Phillips wasn't "hiding". It was a poor choice of playcall for the situation from a personnel standpoint and a poor decision by Romo to put the ball up in that situation.

There was nothing wrong with the play call, they were only up by 4 and you can't just run the ball every play. Furthermore the OC has no idea what defense they will be playing when he calls a play, that is why they have audibles. I doubt there is an OC out there that wouldn't have wanted Romo to audible to run once they saw how far back the safety was.

Futhermore how do you know who Garrett's intended reciver was on that play? For all we know Garrett intented for the play to go to the flats. There are 5 eligable receivers out there and the QB can throw to anyone one of them regardless of who the primary target is.

This play was all on Romo, not Garrett.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Garrett is often critisized for not having the killer instinct and putting a team away. The running game was gashing them and Garrett went for the kill. They thought that the safeties would be biting on the play action, and Hurd would be wide open. They put that play in just for this game.

For some unexplained reason, the safety stayed back and Romo never saw him because Hurd was covering him up.

(from Talking Cowboys)

The dude is playing 30 yards off the ball. If Romo can't identify where the safety is at pre snap he should of never went there with that pass.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I totally agree.......we should have continued running in that situation.

I was just repeating what was said on the show.

So the show was saying that Garrett is often criticized for not having a killer instinct and putting the other team away?

That's weird. I don't think I've ever seen that said about him. Usually it's just the opposite.

 

[nalam]

The correct terminology is "punt".

On a 1st and 10 play , when running game was killing the gints ? I dont think so !

 

[Mr Cowboy]

So the show was saying that Garrett is often criticized for not having a killer instinct and putting the other team away?

That's weird. I don't think I've ever seen that said about him. Usually it's just the opposite.

That's what they were asying, I think it was Phillips and Micky.

 

[Direwolf63]

I totally agree.......we should have continued running in that situation.

I was just repeating what was said on the show.

I don't have a problem with Garretts play call. Romo should have seen the deep safety and audible to a run play. Or throw to a different receiver. Or throw the ball away. Or call a timeout.

Romo had plenty of ways to avoid the mistake he ultimately made. That pick is totally on Romo, not Garrett, IMO.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

In post game interview Romo stated he did not see the Safety because he was hiden behind the CB. He did not make it an excuse because as Romo also stated on a deep ball you must know where the safety is at all times he failed to do that and it cost him.

Yep. This is the answer. I do give Romo credit because he did not try and make excuses. He knew that it was on him and he owned up. That's always a good think IMO. You gotta know where the safeties are, especially when your primary route is the deep throw. He knew it, he just didn't pay attention to what he knew. It's kinda like when you find something on Ebay that seems too good a deal to be true. You know that the price is too good but you elect to bid on it before somebody else can beat you to it. Well, sometimes it may be that too good to be true item but usually, it's not and you tell yourself, "I knew better then this." The problem is that when you see it, you have to listen to what you've told yourself. If it's to good to be true, pass it up because it probably is. Not, go for it before it's gone.

Romo just didn't listen to himself on that play. He has to learn to do that but I think he will.

 

[wileedog]

Even if that's the case, it is HIS job to locate the single high FS on that play before throwing it up.

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And Romo himself said as much.

But I would be more upset with the throw if Romo knew there was double coverage and heaved it out there anyway than I am for missing the pre-snap read and thinking he was throwing to a wide open receiver.

 

[DEZBRYANT x88x]

Romo to me looked like he tried too fit it in between the safety and the corner and tried to make a ridiculous pass.

 

[Future]

See the bolded portion. My question would be since when is it intelligent to use your fourth best WR for the killshot? And if you look at the play again, Hurd wasn't even that open for Romo to throw that pass even if it was single coverage and Phillips wasn't "hiding". It was a poor choice of playcall for the situation from a personnel standpoint and a poor decision by Romo to put the ball up in that situation.

Actually Hurd had the kill shot on a quick pass that he took to the house last time Dallas beat the Gints at home.

Was it last year? I'm losing my mind.

 

[Alexander]

Actually Hurd had the kill shot on a quick pass that he took to the house last time Dallas beat the Gints at home.

Was it last year? I'm losing my mind.

No, you are remembering correctly--it was the first game in 2007. That was the one, and only, "killshot" Hurd has ever done. But that was a completely different play. This was against deep safeties, including a good one in Phillips. Hurd really isn't the right person for that kind of play.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

That ball was so badly thrown even Hurd couldn't have caught it if no one was covering him.

 

[tunahelper]

If you watch the replay of this pass Romo overthrows Hurd by a large margain. Even if he didnt see the safety it was a piss poor throw anyway.

 

[Direwolf63]

If you watch the replay of this pass Romo overthrows Hurd by a large margain. Even if he didnt see the safety it was a piss poor throw anyway.

One has to wonder if just before Romo threw it, he saw Phillips running in that direction and tried to overthrow everybody and just didn't throw it far enough. Only Romo knows the answer to that. At any rate, the ball should have gone into the first row if you are just trying to throw it away.

 

[DLCassidy]

Remember the deep pass that was picked off by the deep safety? Romo said he did not see the safety. Remember the Giants had blue shirts and gray pants. There is a lot of gray and blue in the stadium and it was a deep pass. Perhaps the safety blended into the background of the stadium.

Does anyone think that could have been a factor?

Yes I believe so. On the second one the ball slipped and on the third he got blinded by the sun.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

See the bolded portion. My question would be since when is it intelligent to use your fourth best WR for the killshot? And if you look at the play again, Hurd wasn't even that open for Romo to throw that pass even if it was single coverage and Phillips wasn't "hiding". It was a poor choice of playcall for the situation from a personnel standpoint and a poor decision by Romo to put the ball up in that situation.

Garrett tried to pull the wool over the Giants by sneaking Hurd out there

 

[Bach]

If you watch the replay of this pass Romo overthrows Hurd by a large margain. Even if he didnt see the safety it was a piss poor throw anyway.

But..but he didn't see the defender cuz he blended in with the stadium.

 

[kmd24]

See the bolded portion. My question would be since when is it intelligent to use your fourth best WR for the killshot? And if you look at the play again, Hurd wasn't even that open for Romo to throw that pass even if it was single coverage and Phillips wasn't "hiding". It was a poor choice of playcall for the situation from a personnel standpoint and a poor decision by Romo to put the ball up in that situation.

Here's the video thanks to dcfanatic:
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The Giants were in their base defense with Webster over Hurd, who was split wide left. The free safety Johnson was lined up over Crayton, who was in the slot left.

Hurd goes in motion, ostensibly to force the switch, and gets behind Johnson by about 3 yards (stop the frame at 14 seconds). The goal was to get a fast receiver matched up on the slower safety, and it worked. If Romo didn't see Kenny Phillips, Hurd would have appeared to have gotten behind the defense.

The interesting thing is that linebackers Pierce and Boley didn't budge on the play fake. They knew it wasn't a run. Phillips was 20 yards deep and didn't take a single step towards the line. I think it's clear the Giants knew the play was coming.

Pause the frame at 44 seconds just to see how much room Barber would have had if he had gotten the handoff.

 

[TD-33]

Remember the deep pass that was picked off by the deep safety? Romo said he did not see the safety. Remember the Giants had blue shirts and gray pants. There is a lot of gray and blue in the stadium and it was a deep pass. Perhaps the safety blended into the background of the stadium.

Does anyone think that could have been a factor?

lol I SWEAR I thought the exact same thing yesterday but I thought nah...I ain't gonna post that. lol :laugh2: