There Is So Much Pressure To Draft QBs This Year

[Hostile]

Let's stop for a minute and think about this. First of all let's name the teams drafting ahead of us who need a QB.

1. Carolina
3. Buffalo
4. Cincinnati
5. Arizona
7. San Francisco?

Now, who are the teams behind us who may want to trade up?

10. Washington
12. Vikings
16. Jaguars?

Now, why am I concentrating on just QBs right now? Easy answer, these teams are going to be under the most intense pressure in NFL History to take a QB in round 1 of the lockout lasts past the Draft.

When will Free Agency start? How long will the lockout last? If the lockout lasts to the Draft there is no way that teams can gamble and not take a QB.

Please think about that for a minute. As long as the lockout is in place no team can trade for a QB like Carson Palmer or Kevin Kolb. No team can sign a Free Agent QB like Matt Hasselbeck.

Right now, I am pro-lockout for that reason alone. I want the intense pressure placed upon the teams ahead of us. If it is, then we benefit big time about great players dropping.

Do teams know when the lockout will end? No more than you or I do. Can they gamble it will end before they have to go into a season with no solution in place at QB?

In my not so humble opinion, no, they cannot risk that. Two QBs are deemed to be 1st round guys. I will not be shocked if 3, 4, 5, or even 6 or 7 guys are taken at QB in round 1. I don't think teams can gamble on getting a position player in round 1, and their QB in round 2. I think there will be a feeding frenzy on QBs.

Further, these teams cannot afford to trade down if they need a QB. No amount of picks is worth missing a QB they want or worse, need.

Can Arizona or Cincy Trade down? Not in my opinion. If Newton and Gabbart are gone they may need to strike while the iron is hot and take Mallet, Locker, or someone else.

It could happen.

We may be in the most advantageous position ever to have a player we covet fall right in our laps. I have not wavered one iota on my belief that Patrick Peterson is the best player in this draft.

NFL History also tells us that CBs are not taken in the top 5 of the Draft very often. No CB has ever been #1 overall. Not in 75 years of Drafting. In fact, no CB has ever been #2 overall. Not in 75 years of Drafting. Only 2 have ever been #3 overall.

I find it hard to believe that Denver, the team with the fewest sacks in the NFL is going to pass on D-line. I just can't see it.

If Peterson gets to #6, and I absolutely believe he can, Jerry will go get him. If it happens, I promise, I will tone down my Peterson agenda just like I did my Garrett agenda.

In the meantime though...

 

[funkytown]

We can only hope that someone trades up for Mallett or Locker....Highly doubt it happens.

I'm more interested to see what happens at the end of the 1st round.

Teams like Cincy, Arizona, Washington, Buffalo, Carolina, San Fran, Minnesota, who didnt get a QB in the top of round 1.....Will any of these teams trade back into the 1st to select a QB that could be slipping...(Mallett, Locker, Ponder)?

 

[mickswag]

Let's stop for a minute and think about this. First of all let's name the teams drafting ahead of us who need a QB.

1. Carolina
3. Buffalo
4. Cincinnati
5. Arizona
7. San Francisco?

Now, who are the teams behind us who may want to trade up?

10. Washington
12. Vikings
16. Jaguars?

Now, why am I concentrating on just QBs right now? Easy answer, these teams are going to be under the most intense pressure in NFL History to take a QB in round 1 of the lockout lasts past the Draft.

When will Free Agency start? How long will the lockout last? If the lockout lasts to the Draft there is no way that teams can gamble and not take a QB.

Please think about that for a minute. As long as the lockout is in place no team can trade for a QB like Carson Palmer or Kevin Kolb. No team can sign a Free Agent QB like Matt Hasselbeck.

Right now, I am pro-lockout for that reason alone. I want the intense pressure placed upon the teams ahead of us. If it is, then we benefit big time about great players dropping.

Do teams know when the lockout will end? No more than you or I do. Can they gamble it will end before they have to go into a season with no solution in place at QB?

In my not so humble opinion, no, they cannot risk that. Two QBs are deemed to be 1st round guys. I will not be shocked if 3, 4, 5, or even 6 or 7 guys are taken at QB in round 1. I don't think teams can gamble on getting a position player in round 1, and their QB in round 2. I think there will be a feeding frenzy on QBs.

Further, these teams cannot afford to trade down if they need a QB. No amount of picks is worth missing a QB they want or worse, need.

Can Arizona or Cincy Trade down? Not in my opinion. If Newton and Gabbart are gone they may need to strike while the iron is hot and take Mallet, Locker, or someone else.

It could happen.

We may be in the most advantageous position ever to have a player we covet fall right in our laps. I have not wavered one iota on my belief that Patrick Peterson is the best player in this draft.

NFL History also tells us that CBs are not taken in the top 5 of the Draft very often. No CB has ever been #1 overall. Not in 75 years of Drafting. In fact, no CB has ever been #2 overall. Not in 75 years of Drafting. Only 2 have ever been #3 overall.

I find it hard to believe that Denver, the team with the fewest sacks in the NFL is going to pass on D-line. I just can't see it.

If Peterson gets to #6, and I absolutely believe he can, Jerry will go get him. If it happens, I promise, I will tone down my Peterson agenda just like I did my Garrett agenda.

In the meantime though...


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I pray every night that you are right, Hos. It's reassuring to see that you and SDogo both think PP will be wearing a star.

 

[Hostile]

I pray every night that you are right, Hos. It's reassuring to see that you and SDogo both think PP will be wearing a star.

There are a lot of things working on our favor on this one. The only thing working against us is how good the kid is.

Want to hear something cool? His middle name is De'mon. Spelled like demon, pronounced day-mon, which is almost like Cajun for Da man.

People know how I like pedigree. He has 4 cousins playing in the NFL. Santana and Sinorice Moss, Bryant and Walter McFadden.

 

[cowboyjoe]

I think this Hos, (panthers will take a qb with that first overall pick and it might be shocker at QB too, someone you dont think they would take, unless i am wrong, that organization is real cheap, and dont want to spend money, on a big time player, so might be a qb they can bargain with at number one overall,


the bengals may very well pass on a QB, why because of the owner. He is super stubborn, and he isnt going to give up on Palmer.

Another reason wny, unless there is settlement with the cba, then qbs taken high, the owner will have to give up mega bucks on drafting that qb.

So, I dont see brown doing that. He always has his way, and shows the players who the boss is.

I think HC Gailey likes fitzpatrick, and he is going to stick with him, and gailey loves von miller, i think thats who he is going to draft.

Now, with bengals and buffalo possibly out of taking a qb high in 1st round, you have arizona and tennessee,

arizona is to me, same way money wise owner that doesnt spend money, so they may wait and trade for a qb, etc... that owner to me is whacky,

now that leaves tennessee, who may not take say cam newton is still there, so then if cam is still there, you might get teams calling with the titans just getting over the vince young qb issue, that possibly split there team along with their coaching staff, (but munachak has said he loves peterson

so, if cam newton for example is still there at 9, i think vikes and dolphins would give up alot to move up to get him, and jerry jones might be tempted to much with draft picks or draft picks and players to stay at 9

i see
vikes, miami, possibly jags that may want to trade up to get a qb

as well as lions, and possibly new england, if a certain wr is there at 9

this would give dallas super trade offers, say even to vikings, because if you have 2 or 3 teams wanting to trade up, you can get the farm so to speak

heck, Commanders might even want to trade up with us, to keep lions away from impact wr, and we might get a high pick from skins, now that would be funny

only way i see if peterson is there at # 6, but say a top wr, top qb, top defensive linemen like fairley or dareus is there, along with peterson, you might be temped to wait, and trade down alittle get an extra 2nd or 3rd, and still get tyron OT, or maybe even peterson, if he gets past 6

i dont see him falling past tennesee though for sure
i do agree with you about the qbs, that there may be a run on them, but only 5 qbs drafted in first round

:starspin :starspin

 

[NeonDeion21]

I think Ponder will surprise a lot of people and be the 3rd QB drafted.

 

[cowboyjoe]

I think Ponder will surprise a lot of people and be the 3rd QB drafted.

I think these qbs will all be drafted in 1st round, kinda like the 83 draft of qbs
1. Missouri QB
2. Cam Newton
3. Locker
4. Mallett
5. Ponder

 

[Cowboy Brian]

I think Ponder will surprise a lot of people and be the 3rd QB drafted.

Gabbert
Newton
Locker
Mallett
Ponder/Keapernick.

 

[NeonDeion21]

Gabbert
Newton
Locker
Mallett
Ponder/Keapernick.

Really? You think Ponder will go after Mallet and Kapernick? I heard Miami at #15 were interested.

 

[Hostile]

I think Ponder will surprise a lot of people and be the 3rd QB drafted.

So do I, and I won't be shocked if it is in the top 10.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Really? You think Ponder will go after Mallet and Kapernick? I heard Miami at #15 were interested.

Depends on the fallout of the draft, but Ponders stock has changed so much. He was the second QB on some boards after Locker, and then he free fell to a 3rd/4th round prospect and now seems to be rebuilding it. Im not sure where he will land.

 

[cowboyjoe]

Depends on the fallout of the draft, but Ponders stock has changed so much. He was the second QB on some boards after Locker, and then he free fell to a 3rd/4th round prospect and now seems to be rebuilding it. Im not sure where he will land.

i think ponder will be 3rd qb taken, probably to vikes or jags, somewhere in there

 

[JBS]

I think this Hos, (panthers will take a qb with that first overall pick and it might be shocker at QB too, someone you dont think they would take, unless i am wrong, that organization is real cheap, and dont want to spend money, on a big time player, so might be a qb they can bargain with at number one overall,


the bengals may very well pass on a QB, why because of the owner. He is super stubborn, and he isnt going to give up on Palmer.

Another reason wny, unless there is settlement with the cba, then qbs taken high, the owner will have to give up mega bucks on drafting that qb.

So, I dont see brown doing that. He always has his way, and shows the players who the boss is.

I think HC Gailey likes fitzpatrick, and he is going to stick with him, and gailey loves von miller, i think thats who he is going to draft.

Now, with bengals and buffalo possibly out of taking a qb high in 1st round, you have arizona and tennessee,

arizona is to me, same way money wise owner that doesnt spend money, so they may wait and trade for a qb, etc... that owner to me is whacky,

now that leaves tennessee, who may not take say cam newton is still there, so then if cam is still there, you might get teams calling with the titans just getting over the vince young qb issue, that possibly split there team along with their coaching staff, (but munachak has said he loves peterson

so, if cam newton for example is still there at 9, i think vikes and dolphins would give up alot to move up to get him, and jerry jones might be tempted to much with draft picks or draft picks and players to stay at 9

i see
vikes, miami, possibly jags that may want to trade up to get a qb

as well as lions, and possibly new england, if a certain wr is there at 9

this would give dallas super trade offers, say even to vikings, because if you have 2 or 3 teams wanting to trade up, you can get the farm so to speak

heck, Commanders might even want to trade up with us, to keep lions away from impact wr, and we might get a high pick from skins, now that would be funny

only way i see if peterson is there at # 6, but say a top wr, top qb, top defensive linemen like fairley or dareus is there, along with peterson, you might be temped to wait, and trade down alittle get an extra 2nd or 3rd, and still get tyron OT, or maybe even peterson, if he gets past 6

i dont see him falling past tennesee though for sure
i do agree with you about the qbs, that there may be a run on them, but only 5 qbs drafted in first round

:starspin :starspin

You just conveniently made Cam fall to 9 lol..it's not going to happen..there is no chance Cam or Gabbert last til 9...0%...I bet they both go top 5

 

[NeonDeion21]

i think ponder will be 3rd qb taken, probably to vikes or jags, somewhere in there

You just said Ponder will be the 5th QB selected?

 

[ThreeandOut]

I'm not quite so sure the labor situation will cause more QB's to be drafted high. The longer the lockout goes on, the less prep time these rookies are going to have to get ready for the season. Seems like when the lockout ends, teams will be scrambling for veteran free agents that are NFL ready to come in as starters, even if only for a stop gap.

So I'm still seeing only three QB taken in the first round. But I think you'll see a run on QB's early in the 2nd round as teams will be looking to develop QB's for the future. This situation could push a very good player Dallas' way in that round.

 

[Hostile]

I'm not quite so sure the labor situation will cause more QB's to be drafted high. The longer the lockout goes on, the less prep time these rookies are going to have to get ready for the season. Seems like when the lockout ends, teams will be scrambling for veteran free agents that are NFL ready to come in as starters, even if only for a stop gap.

So I'm still seeing only three QB taken in the first round. But I think you'll see a run on QB's early in the 2nd round as teams will be looking to develop QB's for the future. This situation could push a very good player Dallas' way in that round.

Jimmy Clausen or Cam Newton?

Blaine Gabbart or Ryan Fitzpatrick?

Blaine Gabbart or Max Hall or John Skelton?

Blaine Gabbart or Jordan Palmer (assuming of course, he doesn't leave with his brother)?

 

[NeonDeion21]

Jimmy Clausen or Cam Newton?

Blaine Gabbart or Ryan Fitzpatrick?

Blaine Gabbart or Max Hall or John Skelton?

Blaine Gabbart or Jordan Palmer (assuming of course, he doesn't leave with his brother)?

FIFY :laugh2:

 

[ThreeandOut]

Jimmy Clausen or Cam Newton?

Ryan Gabbart or Ryan Fitzpatrick?

Ryan Gabbart or Max Hall or John Skelton?

Ryan Gabbart or Jordan Palmer (assuming of course, he doesn't leave with his brother)?

Newton and Gabbart (Ryan??) will definitely be gone before Dallas' pick at 9, but I still think some of these teams needing QBs will be waiting on veteran free agents after the lockout.

 

[UnoDallas]

You just conveniently made Cam fall to 9 lol..it's not going to happen..there is no chance Cam or Gabbert last til 9...0%...I bet they both go top 5

don't see it

lets hope that Cam goes to Wash

 

[UnoDallas]

As long as the lockout is in place no team can trade for a QB like Carson Palmer or Kevin Kolb. No team can sign a Free Agent QB like Matt Hasselbeck.

Do teams know when the lockout will end? No more than you or I do. Can they gamble it will end before they have to go into a season with no solution in place at QB?

In my not so humble opinion, no, they cannot risk that. Two QBs are deemed to be 1st round guys. I will not be shocked if 3, 4, 5, or even 6 or 7 guys are taken at QB in round 1. I don't think teams can gamble on getting a position player in round 1, and their QB in round 2. I think there will be a feeding frenzy on QBs.

so you think they will draft an inexperienced Rookie QB :laugh2:

over waiting until the lockout is over and getting Kolb - MaNabb- Palmer

I just don't buy this idea