These Cowboys Teams Wear Down After 12 Games

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In watching Baltimore last night I was wondering what having a player like Raquan (sp?) Smith would have done for this team. We couldn’t have afforded him but we need a stout MLB. I was a big LVE fan but to be honest he was valued/drafted because of his ability to cover not stop the run.
Let's hope Overshown is someone who can add a similar value to the defense next season. Hopefully they add another.

The defense is essentially a headless monster right now. Bell is forced to play out of position and Clark simply isn't good enough to be a starting LB.
 

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I think with ANY pro NFL team, after 12 games everyone kind of wears down a little.
 

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A lot of it is coaching too everyone is acting like Dan Quinn is a genius and McCarthy's doing so great with the offense but teams figure these guys out as the season goes on. Both of them haven't coached very well the last couple weeks and especially when they face good opposition and good coaches
 

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We are going to take a look at the Cowboys from 2021 to the present. These are the McCarthy seasons., I don't include the 2020 season in order to be fair, too many events beyond anyone's control.

Anyway, I want to compare certain aspects of the defense in the first 12 games of the season to the last games. At this point, I will be comparing some average numbers from the 36 games that was part of the first 12 games of each season to the 13 games so far at the end of the three seasons. It will be an average per game

So, from the first 12 games of each of the past three seasons, we have these Cowboys ranks:

Average points allowed per game....#5

Average sacks per game.......#1

Average takeaways per game....... #2

Opponent QB rating..... #3

Won/Loss record......#1

Over the last three seasons for the first 12 games combined, the Cowboys defense is one of the very best, if not the best. They are certainly the best in certain categories

Now, let's take a look at this Cowboys defense during the last 4-5 games of the regular season for these three combined. Remember, this is the time when serious contenders will establish themselves while jockeying for playoff positioning

Average points per game.....#16

Average sacks per game......#16

takeaways oer game........#1`

Opponent QB rating......#7

Won/loss record......#10

The Cowboys give up an average of 19.25 points in games 1 to 12 over the past three seasons. In games beyond the 12th, they give up an average of 22.54 points per game. They go from 3.1 sacks per game to 1.8. Their takeaways remain consistent.

The Cowboys are tied with the Eagles for the best record for the first 12 games of the three combined seasons. However, the Cowboys record decreased by over ten percentage points past game #12.

Meanwhile, the four teams with the best records after the 12th game are the Bills at 92%, the 49ers at 85%, the Chiefs at 77% and the Bengals at 75% They know how to turn on that switch at the right time. The Cowboys have been turning on the wrong switch at the wrong time.

It's as if the Cowboys are constantly leading in a race but, as they make the final lap, they just run out of gas.

You can also see it in the personal stats of their defensive playmakers. Parsons is All-World during the first three quarters of the season and then fades into pedestrian the last quarter. Only three of Diggs INT's came in games after the 12th. When was the last time you saw a Daron Bland Pick Six?

Is it stamina? Is this the point of the season when Parsons begins to feel aches and pains of going up against a double team of three hundred pounders? This is an issue that must be resolved before the Cowboys can ever be considered serious contenders..
Serious question, when you gathered data did you enter into that phase with a blank slate, or did you enter into it with your point in mind and looked for data to support it?

What questions did you ask if the data?

The work done to gather it is quite good, but have you gathered enough to definitely make the point you are? Like using next Gen stats are you seeing variables such as speed of players slow down in a significant way? Injuries to key positions vs previous years, strength of other teams in last quarter vs first 3 quarters year over year etc.

Just feels like you've gathered just enough to support your foregone conclusion but not enough to answer any real questions or challenges to your foregone conclusion.

Now, it very well may be true, but dig deeper into the data, what is different with the Bills, 49ers, Bengals and Chiefs that allow them to be so productive in end of year. Avg age of starters, avg injury to key positions, avg size vs speed profiles etc. Therein you may be given some clues as to the reason for the drop in production.

We should look at home vs road games over latter part of season for all teams, is there a pattern? Like do the bills have more home games in worse weather for example.

There are a ton of variables that come into play that could lead to the data you've shown, the conclusion as to why may or may not change the more you dig.
 

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No complaints from our defense even though they lay some eggs now and then.
When it counted they held the Niners to 23 and 19 points in both playoff losses.
Heck, they even held the 2 time SB winner Mahomes to 19 points in his house in another Cowboy loss.
That is true. We're paying a certain someone to be the difference and they haven't been
 

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So don't think beating Detroit and Washington will qualify as "ending the season on a high note"? I would still consider that as momentum going forward.
I don’t think beating Detroit and Washington in meaningless games is going to help restore the confidence we lost in the big losses to Buffalo and Miami. We’re struggling to win critical games on the road and that’s where we’ll be in the playoffs. Many are already predicting a one and done for the Cowboys.
 

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We are going to take a look at the Cowboys from 2021 to the present. These are the McCarthy seasons., I don't include the 2020 season in order to be fair, too many events beyond anyone's control.

Anyway, I want to compare certain aspects of the defense in the first 12 games of the season to the last games. At this point, I will be comparing some average numbers from the 36 games that was part of the first 12 games of each season to the 13 games so far at the end of the three seasons. It will be an average per game

So, from the first 12 games of each of the past three seasons, we have these Cowboys ranks:

Average points allowed per game....#5

Average sacks per game.......#1

Average takeaways per game....... #2

Opponent QB rating..... #3

Won/Loss record......#1

Over the last three seasons for the first 12 games combined, the Cowboys defense is one of the very best, if not the best. They are certainly the best in certain categories

Now, let's take a look at this Cowboys defense during the last 4-5 games of the regular season for these three combined. Remember, this is the time when serious contenders will establish themselves while jockeying for playoff positioning

Average points per game.....#16

Average sacks per game......#16

takeaways oer game........#1`

Opponent QB rating......#7

Won/loss record......#10

The Cowboys give up an average of 19.25 points in games 1 to 12 over the past three seasons. In games beyond the 12th, they give up an average of 22.54 points per game. They go from 3.1 sacks per game to 1.8. Their takeaways remain consistent.

The Cowboys are tied with the Eagles for the best record for the first 12 games of the three combined seasons. However, the Cowboys record decreased by over ten percentage points past game #12.

Meanwhile, the four teams with the best records after the 12th game are the Bills at 92%, the 49ers at 85%, the Chiefs at 77% and the Bengals at 75% They know how to turn on that switch at the right time. The Cowboys have been turning on the wrong switch at the wrong time.

It's as if the Cowboys are constantly leading in a race but, as they make the final lap, they just run out of gas.

You can also see it in the personal stats of their defensive playmakers. Parsons is All-World during the first three quarters of the season and then fades into pedestrian the last quarter. Only three of Diggs INT's came in games after the 12th. When was the last time you saw a Daron Bland Pick Six?

Is it stamina? Is this the point of the season when Parsons begins to feel aches and pains of going up against a double team of three hundred pounders? This is an issue that must be resolved before the Cowboys can ever be considered serious contenders..
These Cowboys Teams Wear Down After 12 Games :facepalm:

Don't You Think Every Other Teams Wear Down This Time Of Year.?
You Should Have Added That In Your Post..:banghead:
 
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Doing these types of things without contextualizing for schedule or how other teams do is pointless.

This is basically just a measure of health and opponent difficulty.
 

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Well since MM watched every Dallas game on tape before he met with JJ, he should have been well aware of all this
 

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I don’t think beating Detroit and Washington in meaningless games is going to help restore the confidence we lost in the big losses to Buffalo and Miami. We’re struggling to win critical games on the road and that’s where we’ll be in the playoffs. Many are already predicting a one and done for the Cowboys.
Yeah, but when you talk about confidence, you're talking about you and other fans. That has nothing to do with the confidence the team has. They don't need you to be confident in them, it's meaningless to them. The way you talk, you don't seem to understand that. You seem to feel a certain way and assume everyone else feels the same way, including the players. Predictions by others are meaningless but here you are thinking they have merit. :facepalm:
 

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That's why you always stay negative like COOG, because the ship always goes down
 

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No complaints from our defense even though they lay some eggs now and then.
When it counted they held the Niners to 23 and 19 points in both playoff losses.
Heck, they even held the 2 time SB winner Mahomes to 19 points in his house in another Cowboy loss.
Yes, they did but that was then. Every nfl season takes a toll on these players. Kearse, Hooker etc are older. This defense isn’t as good as previous two versions.

And I do agree with OP here. There is some merit to this time of the season.

But the end game will always be on the offense to score td’s in the tournament.
 

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Yeah, but when you talk about confidence, you're talking about you and other fans. That has nothing to do with the confidence the team has. They don't need you to be confident in them, it's meaningless to them. The way you talk, you don't seem to understand that. You seem to feel a certain way and assume everyone else feels the same way, including the players. Predictions by others are meaningless but here you are thinking they have merit. :facepalm:
I’m taking about the teams confidence. :rolleyes:
 

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In watching Baltimore last night I was wondering what having a player like Raquan (sp?) Smith would have done for this team. We couldn’t have afforded him but we need a stout MLB. I was a big LVE fan but to be honest he was valued/drafted because of his ability to cover not stop the run.
either one of those LBs at Baltimore!
 

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Our defense is too small to last the entire 17 game season and play offs.
We need larger players, especially at linebacker.
It seemed obvious even during training camp that this team was light on LBs. i thought it was a mistake to not get a bigger, more experienced run stuffer even before LVE went down. The thin LB unit needs to be addressed this off-season.

I like Clark and Bell ok but they are basically safeties playing the position. It’s a weakness for sure.
 

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I’m taking about the teams confidence. :rolleyes:
Then you don't know what you're talking about. You're not a part of that locker room. You're just doing what I said you do, assuming everyone thinks and feels just like you.
 

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I'm sure our late year swoon every year is just bad luck. We are the bestestest. Talk of any deficiency is just whack!!
 

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We are going to take a look at the Cowboys from 2021 to the present. These are the McCarthy seasons., I don't include the 2020 season in order to be fair, too many events beyond anyone's control.

Anyway, I want to compare certain aspects of the defense in the first 12 games of the season to the last games. At this point, I will be comparing some average numbers from the 36 games that was part of the first 12 games of each season to the 13 games so far at the end of the three seasons. It will be an average per game

So, from the first 12 games of each of the past three seasons, we have these Cowboys ranks:

Average points allowed per game....#5

Average sacks per game.......#1

Average takeaways per game....... #2

Opponent QB rating..... #3

Won/Loss record......#1

Over the last three seasons for the first 12 games combined, the Cowboys defense is one of the very best, if not the best. They are certainly the best in certain categories

Now, let's take a look at this Cowboys defense during the last 4-5 games of the regular season for these three combined. Remember, this is the time when serious contenders will establish themselves while jockeying for playoff positioning

Average points per game.....#16

Average sacks per game......#16

takeaways oer game........#1`

Opponent QB rating......#7

Won/loss record......#10

The Cowboys give up an average of 19.25 points in games 1 to 12 over the past three seasons. In games beyond the 12th, they give up an average of 22.54 points per game. They go from 3.1 sacks per game to 1.8. Their takeaways remain consistent.

The Cowboys are tied with the Eagles for the best record for the first 12 games of the three combined seasons. However, the Cowboys record decreased by over ten percentage points past game #12.

Meanwhile, the four teams with the best records after the 12th game are the Bills at 92%, the 49ers at 85%, the Chiefs at 77% and the Bengals at 75% They know how to turn on that switch at the right time. The Cowboys have been turning on the wrong switch at the wrong time.

It's as if the Cowboys are constantly leading in a race but, as they make the final lap, they just run out of gas.

You can also see it in the personal stats of their defensive playmakers. Parsons is All-World during the first three quarters of the season and then fades into pedestrian the last quarter. Only three of Diggs INT's came in games after the 12th. When was the last time you saw a Daron Bland Pick Six?

Is it stamina? Is this the point of the season when Parsons begins to feel aches and pains of going up against a double team of three hundred pounders? This is an issue that must be resolved before the Cowboys can ever be considered serious contenders..
Was tha a typo re sacks per game from 1 to 16?
I dunna understand, old boy.
Otherwise well done, son of the star.

You did this for us and I thang yow.
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Then you don't know what you're talking about. You're not a part of that locker room. You're just doing what I said you do, assuming everyone thinks and feels just like you.
You don’t need to be part of the locker room to know there’s a confidence issue on the road. All 5 of our losses were on the road and one was to a bad AZ team. If you think the team feels confident about stringing together 3 straight road wins in the playoffs to reach the Super Bowl you don’t know what you’re talking about. Even the players are using the officiating as an excuse.
 
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