These last second timeouts...

[smarta5150]

I would love to see when the coaches are calling timeouts and when the whistle is being blown in respect to the snap.

Its really starting to haunt coaches..

 

[peplaw06]

I would love to see when the coaches are calling timeouts and when the whistle is being blown in respect to the snap.

Its really starting to haunt coaches..

They showed the angle from the sideline where you could see Rex Ryan calling for the TO. The ref started waiving his hands before the ball was snapped. BTW, that wasn't on Billick.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

this is probably why Rex Ryan hasn't gotten a coaching job yet

my apologies Billick

 

[smarta5150]

This game really got me to mention it but all those game-ending FGs are in question to.

Just wondering if there really is any "lag" from the TO call to the actual whistle.

 

[peplaw06]

This game really got me to mention it but all those game-ending FGs are in question to.

Just wondering if there really is any "lag" from the TO call to the actual whistle.

Yeah there is a lag. You're dealing with humans, it's not going to be instantaneous.

But it doesn't look like the refs are looking at them call the TO, then waiting to blow the whistle until the last second.

 

[ejthedj]

ESPN just said that the assistant coaches can't call this timeout--only head coach according to the rules.

OF course, ESPN just mentioned it in passing and blew it off in their Pats love, but this means 3 TIMES on 4th down, the Pats were stopped and bailed out by the refs

 

[DasTex]

ESPN just said that the assistant coaches can't call this timeout--only head coach according to the rules.

OF course, ESPN just mentioned it in passing and blew it off in their Pats love, but this means 3 TIMES on 4th down, the Pats were stopped and bailed out by the refs

Thats a good point...I can't recall anytime where an assistant called the TO. Anyone know the rule on this one?

 

[VietCowboy]

sooo. billick still to blame?

 

[joseephuss]

ESPN just said that the assistant coaches can't call this timeout--only head coach according to the rules.

OF course, ESPN just mentioned it in passing and blew it off in their Pats love, but this means 3 TIMES on 4th down, the Pats were stopped and bailed out by the refs

How were the Pats bailed out by the refs? The Pats' guard jumped before the ball was snapped. It was obvious. Are the refs not supposed to call that? If they didn't then someone would be harping on the refs for missing the call.

 

[rguido]

How were the Pats bailed out by the refs? The Pats' guard jumped before the ball was snapped. It was obvious. Are the refs not supposed to call that? If they didn't then someone would be harping on the refs for missing the call.

There should be an option for the defense to decline this penalty

 

[Big Dakota]

sooo. billick still to blame?

He's the HC, and HCs are always too blame for a loss.

 

[joseephuss]

There should be an option for the defense to decline this penalty

The defense can decline the penalty, but it would not help. Instead of being 4th and 6 it would have been 4th and 1 again if the Ravens declined the call. Remember that this is no play. The play is being stopped before it happens. Sometimes the refs are able to stop the play before the ball is ever snapped and sometimes they are not.

 

[peplaw06]

How were the Pats bailed out by the refs? The Pats' guard jumped before the ball was snapped. It was obvious. Are the refs not supposed to call that? If they didn't then someone would be harping on the refs for missing the call.

No, there were two 4th down plays with 1 yard to go. The first one, Brady was stuffed, but the play was nullified because Rex Ryan was signaling for Timeout. THAT'S what can't be done. An Assistant isn't supposed to be able to call TO from the sidelines.

The second one, Heath Evans got stuffed, but the false start nullified the play. The third 4th down play Brady ran for 15 yards on 4th and 6.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

You know how I bet you could really mess with the other team?

Call two timeouts in a row.

That would rule.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

To me the last second timeouts on FG's make no sense.

It's giving the kicker a practice kick.

If he misses the "practice kick" then he knows possibly what he did wrong, he can gauge the wind better, etc, etc. If he makes it...no big deal. Just do exactly what he did the first time.

A lot of people thought that when Shanahan did it to the Raiders he was some sort of genius, but to me I just thought it was a stupid move that he got lucky on.




YAKUZA

 

[superpunk]

You know how I bet you could really mess with the other team?

Call two timeouts in a row.

That would rule.

Vive la revoluccion!

 

[joseephuss]

No, there were two 4th down plays with 1 yard to go. The first one, Brady was stuffed, but the play was nullified because Rex Ryan was signaling for Timeout. THAT'S what can't be done. An Assistant isn't supposed to be able to call TO from the sidelines.

The second one, Heath Evans got stuffed, but the false start nullified the play. The third 4th down play Brady ran for 15 yards on 4th and 6.

How was the side judge supposed to differentiate between Billick or Ryan as being the one asking for the time out in his ear? His eyes are supposed to be on the field of play. If anything if they did find out it was not the head coach calling for a time out, then it should be a penalty against that team.

 

[random Cs]

I would love to see when the coaches are calling timeouts and when the whistle is being blown in respect to the snap.

Its really starting to haunt coaches..

Not last night, but in most cases the coach tells the official they are calling a TO right before the next play is snapped.