They cannot make the Lamb mistake again

[kskboys]

I’m on record as hating the Jaylon and Escobar picks. We passed up Myles Jack who’s become a terrific player for Jaylon and Le’Veon Bell for Escobar.

Those picks were made using the same formula as the Lamb pick. CC's thread is not about one pick, it's about doing it continuously.

 

[kskboys]

If drafting a player with our first pick who made a huge impact as a rookie is a mistake I hope we make the same mistake every year.

He was good, no one's saying he wasn't. However, that huge impact led to 6-10.

 

[kskboys]

Had we drafted Le’Veon Bell in 2013 who went one pick after Gavin Escobar we could have taken Jalen Ramsey in 2016 instead of Zeke. We could have ended up with TJ Watt instead of Taco and Myles Jack instead of Jaylon. Our defense could have looked much different right now.

Absolutely. However, we took them using the same strategy as we used to take Lamb. Lamb is the one out of 5 or 6 that turned out.

 

[Elusiv1]

I like Cee Dee but he drops the damn ball too much to have on 88, give me Jefferson over butterfingers any day of the week!! Don't get me wrong he has a bright future but he seems too fragile at times.

 

[KJJ]

Those picks were made using the same formula as the Lamb pick. CC's thread is not about one pick, it's about doing it continuously.

The OP focused on the Lamb pick. The players you mentioned weren’t rated nearly as high as Lamb. He was the top rated player at his position and most had him going in the top 10. You don’t pass up a player like that, that falls in your lap at 17 overall.

 

[KJJ]

He was good, no one's saying he wasn't. However, that huge impact led to 6-10.

A WR can only control so much especially one playing with backup QB’s. We wouldn’t have won six games without him. One of the biggest plays in our comeback win against Atlanta was the catch and run Lamb had in the closing minutes.

 

[KJJ]

Absolutely. However, we took them using the same strategy as we used to take Lamb. Lamb is the one out of 5 or 6 that turned out.

Get real those players weren’t rated nearly as high as Lamb except for Ramsey. We needed a solid running game to try and keep Romo healthy and from having to carry the team which is why we took Zeke. It took only one season to realize we made a mistake drafting Escobar and Taco over those other players. Zeke certainly hasn’t been a mistake. Had we drafted Jalen Ramsey he might have wanted out of Dallas like he did Jacksonville. He wouldn’t have been happy playing for this inconsistent organization.

 

[Haimerej]

A WR can only control so much especially one playing with backup QB’s. We wouldn’t have won six games without him. One of the biggest plays in our comeback win against Atlanta was the catch and run Lamb had in the closing minutes.

Your first sentence illustrates the point that makes me sympathetic to CC's opinion. No doubt Lamb was productive.

 

[KJJ]

Your first sentence illustrates the point that makes me sympathetic to CC's opinion. No doubt Lamb was productive.

The point is Lamb was productive in a bad situation. We lost four starting players on our offense including our two starting tackles and our QB.

 

[Haimerej]

The point is Lamb was productive in a bad situation. We lost four starting players on our offense including our two starting tackles and our QB.

He was productive, no doubt. But the point about WRs you made echoes a sentiment I've held for years- they're as good as the guy getting them the ball. That being the case, I'd rather a team address a more pressing need on defense than add a weapon to an already talented group.

 

[kskboys]

The OP focused on the Lamb pick. The players you mentioned weren’t rated nearly as high as Lamb. He was the top rated player at his position and most had him going in the top 10. You don’t pass up a player like that, that falls in your lap at 17 overall.

Once again, you're focusing on one pick. One pick is not the problem.

We've had several other players fall in our laps that were too good to pass up and passed. Daron Payne is one of the latest.

 

[TwentyOne]

No harm in disagreeing. I understand where you’re coming from and certainly agree in the later rounds. I just think when you’re picking #10 you pick the BPA. Now you might have 2 or 3 players all rated about the same when that pick comes up and then you would pick for need. But if it’s obvious, like the Lamb pick, you go with BPA.

OK.

 

[kskboys]

The point is Lamb was productive in a bad situation. We lost four starting players on our offense including our two starting tackles and our QB.

That's really not the point. The point is that we keep taking players too good to pass up as in the ones I previously named.

Thing is, if we hadn't drafted S and DT so poorly in the past, Lamb would've been in awesome pick.

 

[kskboys]

A WR can only control so much especially one playing with backup QB’s. We wouldn’t have won six games without him. One of the biggest plays in our comeback win against Atlanta was the catch and run Lamb had in the closing minutes.

Yup. Which is why he was a luxury pick.

 

[Buzzbait]

I had no problem with the Lamb pick. It will pay off in another year. We had a good passing game this season without our starter. Can’t cover all 3 of these guys if the QB has time.

I do agree that we need D this offseason and O-Line. Need DT. I have never been so embarrassed this year the way we got blown out in the middle. Not to mention LB missing the gaps. I think nolan needs to be gone today. Pick for need this year.

I agree with including the OL. Yes the defense is crucial, but so is the OL. Both OT's out for the better part of the year was a disaster for the offense, and Smith is missing time every year. On defense, DT! We got destroyed all year in the trenches. Our run defense was horrible.

 

[Melonfeud]

Jerry wants a first round 88 Jerry gets a first round 88. Don't you know how this works yet? By the way be prepared for a first round O line pick coming your way. Then we will get the explanation that we need to beef up the O line to take full advantage of all the highly paid talent we have at QB, RB and WR. Talk about your circular logic.

Yes,I'm fully expecting an offensive lineman is going to be the #1 nod from skybox command,as well.

 

[KJJ]

We've had several other players fall in our laps that were too good to pass up and passed. Daron Payne is one of the latest.

Payne went 13th overall in 2018. How did he fall in our laps when we had the 19th overall pick? lol

 

[KJJ]

That's really not the point. The point is that we keep taking players too good to pass up as in the ones I previously named.

Thing is, if we hadn't drafted S and DT so poorly in the past, Lamb would've been in awesome pick.

What player could we have had at number 17 that warranted the pick who was better than Lamb this season?

 

[KJJ]

Yup. Which is why he was a luxury pick.

Lamb was a no brainer pick!

 

[jaythecowboy]

Those picks were made using the same formula as the Lamb pick. CC's thread is not about one pick, it's about doing it continuously.

I'm not seeing the connection between Lamb and any of the picks you said. In fact the Jaylon pick the two players the Cowboys actually wanted got picked the last two picks before them. Not to mention they tried to trade that pick to get Paxton Lynch.