They say QB is the most important position. BUT

[millennial_legend]

3 of the 4 finalists from this past year, including the Super Bowl winner, made it despite average (Foles) to well below average (Keenum, Bortles) league QBs because they had either a great defense (Vikings, Jags) or a very good overall team (Eagles) around them.

Build a great team with what we have, pay our defense, pay our offensive line... we may not have to pay Dak more than average 4th round second contract value, unless he earns it. I'm not going to give an average QB Kirk Cousins money just because it's the current market value. I'm only paying a top 10 QB that kind of money, if not I'm building around the rest and drafting replacements every 5 years.

 

[ghst187]

I’d say after QB, HC and coaching staff are the clear #2 most important place to have great people at. I think in today’s league where it’s nearly impossible to stock and keep talent at a lot of positions, NE has proven you can win a lot with nothing but a great QB and HC (and a bit of cheating here and there and playing in the worst division in football year in and year out).
Philly further solidified my belief I this premise last season (as did the Rams with their monster turn around on only a coaching change) by winning the SB after losing their four best players including their starting QB.
(Insert shot at JG here)

 

[Diehardblues]

3 of the 4 finalists from this past year, including the Super Bowl winner, made it despite average (Foles) to well below average (Keenum, Bortles) league QBs because they had either a great defense (Vikings, Jags) or a very good overall team (Eagles) around them.

Build a great team with what we have, pay our defense, pay our offensive line... we may not have to pay Dak more than average 4th round second contract value, unless he earns it. I'm not going to give an average QB Kirk Cousins money just because it's the current market value. I'm only paying a top 10 QB that kind of money, if not I'm building around the rest and drafting replacements every 5 years.

Yep, you either need a top 5 defense and or QB.
Until further evidence we have neither.

 

[Sydla]

3 of the 4 finalists from this past year, including the Super Bowl winner, made it despite average (Foles) to well below average (Keenum, Bortles) league QBs because they had either a great defense (Vikings, Jags) or a very good overall team (Eagles) around them.

Build a great team with what we have, pay our defense, pay our offensive line... we may not have to pay Dak more than average 4th round second contract value, unless he earns it. I'm not going to give an average QB Kirk Cousins money just because it's the current market value. I'm only paying a top 10 QB that kind of money, if not I'm building around the rest and drafting replacements every 5 years.

Sure but note.............. that the four QBs in the finals actually well for most of the season/playoffs.

Now you might not think highly of Keenum or Bortles or Foles. I get that and actually agree. But none of those teams made the conference champ game riding QBs who were playing crappily. They were getting good QB play. None of those teams would have made the conference title games if their QBs were playing horribly.

So that leaves you with two options. Try to find that franchise QB who gives you a better chance of having solid QB play come the postseason or take your chances with the Blake Bortles of the world and get lucky he suddenly plays well come postseason.

That's why QB play is important. Because none of the four teams would have gone anywhere in the postseason if they got average or terrible QB play.

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't think a QB can win on his own, he needs the protection he needs the WR who can make the plays but one thing I do believe poor QB play can get you beat faster than any position.

 

[cowboyblue22]

qb play and coaching are 2 of the most important things to have on a team in the modern day nfl without those two things you are not going to win much or be a repeat winner

 

[millennial_legend]

Try to find that franchise QB who gives you a better chance of having solid QB play come the postseason or take your chances with the Blake Bortles of the world and get lucky he suddenly plays well come postseason.

That's why QB play is important. Because none of the four teams would have gone anywhere in the postseason if they got average or terrible QB play.

Or, he gets the ball back on a defensive takeaway midway through the 4th quarter with a two-score lead, in New England, with a chance to go to the Super Bowl... and proceeds to go three-and-out.

That, and the Small Balls Doug (Doug Pederson is 'Big Balls Doug') Marrone decision to punt on the ensuing 4th and inches when they had Fournette and 6'6" Bortles, in compilation with the ensuing 3rd & 18 they gave up, will haunt the Jags, the city of Jacksonville and Jags fans from Florida to London for all of eternity.

 

[Diehardblues]

Eagles, Jags and Vikings all Top 5 defenses and Patriots with top 5 QB.

 

[CowboyRoy]

3 of the 4 finalists from this past year, including the Super Bowl winner, made it despite average (Foles) to well below average (Keenum, Bortles) league QBs because they had either a great defense (Vikings, Jags) or a very good overall team (Eagles) around them.

Build a great team with what we have, pay our defense, pay our offensive line... we may not have to pay Dak more than average 4th round second contract value, unless he earns it. I'm not going to give an average QB Kirk Cousins money just because it's the current market value. I'm only paying a top 10 QB that kind of money, if not I'm building around the rest and drafting replacements every 5 years.

Hes already well on his way to earning it. He will get big money. But yah, build the great defense. Nothing average about Prescotts first two years. Dak has had one of the best first two years in NFL history. Facts are stubborn things.

 

[Diehardblues]

22-11 is empty without playoff victories.

 

[MonsterD]

#1 defense and top running game is the only way around that, you can have Brad Johnson,Trent Dilfer,or Jim McMahon whoever when your defense is a difference maker and gets points.

 

[Diehardblues]

If Prescott gets big money we better win fast or we won’t be able to afford supporting cast very long around him. Which we saw what that means. He was reduced to below average.

 

[Diehardblues]

#1 defense and top running game is the only way around that, you can have Brad Johnson,Trent Dilfer,or Jim McMahon whoever when your defense is a difference maker and gets points.

Correct. Maybe Dak could be an effective bus driver.

 

[CPanther95]

QB is definitely the most important position, but defense is the most important side of the ball.

There's no single position on the defense that is exponentially more important than the others like QB is on the offense.

 

[Diehardblues]

We’ll see how long the slobbering Dak fans hang without playoff appearances and deeper runs.

At least Romo elevated horrid teams not needing as much support to contend but he wasn’t great enough without a better defense either.

 

[Diehardblues]

Look at the teams who are most consistent contenders.

Ones with the elite Qb. Its much tougher to build an elite defense .

It’s why teams take such risk trading picks and players to move up for a QB.Because if you hit your set for 10-15 years.

In Cap era can’t hold defenses together very long.

 

[Hardline]

Give me a franchise QB and I'll take my chances.

 

[HungryLion]

Look at the teams who are most consistent contenders.

Ones with the elite Qb. Its much tougher to build an elite defense .

It’s why teams take such risk trading picks and players to move up for a QB.Because if you hit your set for 10-15 years.

In Cap era can’t hold defenses together very long.

Then again, even the “elite QB’s” aren’t winning Super Bowls on a regular basis. Of the current “elite QB’s” only 2 of them have multiple championships, Brady and Big Ben.

As awesome as Rodgers and Brees have been, they both only have one, largely in part due to lack of defensive help. As a matter of fact their only championships came when they also had top notch defensive help.

Big Ben also had great defensive help for both of his championships.

Brady has had good teams around him, but IMO Brady is also the outlier of outliers when it comes to QB’s. The best of all time.

So even WITH elite QB’s you STILL need a very good to great defense to win it all.

 

[Diehardblues]

Then again, even the “elite QB’s” aren’t winning Super Bowls on a regular basis. Of the current “elite QB’s” only 2 of them have multiple championships, Brady and Big Ben.

As awesome as Rodgers and Brees have been, they both only have one, largely in part due to lack of defensive help. As a matter of fact their only championships came when they also had top notch defensive help.

Big Ben also had great defensive help for both of his championships.

Brady has had good teams around him, but IMO Brady is also the outlier of outliers when it comes to QB’s. The best of all time.

So even WITH elite QB’s you STILL need a very good to great defense to win it all.

No, but they’re getting to Super Bowls and championship games more regularly.

Can’t lose it if you don’t get there.

Yes, when they have better defenses are more likely to win it all but are always contenders and in it regardless.

 

[Ranching]

I don't think a QB can win on his own, he needs the protection he needs the WR who can make the plays but one thing I do believe poor QB play can get you beat faster than any position.

If they could Aaron Rodgers would have won a few more Superbowls by now.