This Changes Nothing

[Toruk_Makto]

Wow. That is one helluva a tightrope your balancing on. It's a convicted stance with a prenup. I never mentioned what I think you think... nor do I care.

Finding a good running back in the 3rd is not an exact science, Murray is actually an outlier. Review running backs taken in the 3rd over the years, Murray is a minority. Can you find a guy that can run behind this line? Sure we can. But you can't find guys like Zeke who do everything well as well as he does.

As for your miss-allocation argument, that stance is clearly well-defended since justifying any pick involves measuring the means against the end. Without an end at my disposal, all I can do is to try convince you about how great he is. Furthermore, the end will have to be game changing for you to admit you were wrong. Lastly, for me to ultimately win this argument, I would have to care enough to remember at the end of this season to call you out on it. I doubt I remember this conversation even happened.

Which part of I think Zeke will be awesome for a time but don't think you should draft a rb in the first yet alone the top 5 because they get injured and have a short shelf life and you should be looking for a high level starter for a decade plus with such a selection don't you understand?

 

[jday]

Which part of I think Zeke will be awesome for a time but don't think you should draft a rb in the first yet alone the top 5 because they get injured and have a short shelf life and you should be looking for a high level starter for a decade plus with such a selection don't you understand?

I understand...you are quite the tap dancer. So in an effort to put an end to this dance, allow me to ask you just one question:. What level of team success as a result of Zeke's effort is it going to take to change your mind about the pick? If the Cowboys were to win a Super Bowl within his first contract, would you change your mind?

 

[Alexander]

Turning a blind eye? If we turned a blind eye to his unreliability and just looked at his talent...would he be on another one year deal?

You don't just get to make stuff up.

You know, they could have just elected not to sign him at all. So according to you, it showed amazing restraint to just sign him to a one year deal? It is actually worse that they recognize the unreliability to a degree but still seem to think a historically fat and out of shape player was worth yet another 1 year deal. Last year was a poor return and they signed up for it again. That is turning a blind eye to the real problem.

Meanwhile we could have moved down two spots in the draft, picked up a 4th and taken Leonard Floyd. That's preferable to me.

This was a trade that was out there to take? So Baltimore or the 49ers were willing to throw in a fourth to move up? Says who? You?

You don't just get to make stuff up either.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

You know, they could have just elected not to sign him at all. So according to you, it showed amazing restraint to just sign him to a one year deal? It is actually worse that they recognize the unreliability to a degree but still seem to think a historically fat and out of shape player was worth yet another 1 year deal. Last year was a poor return and they signed up for it again. That is turning a blind eye to the real problem.



This was a trade that was out there to take? So Baltimore or the 49ers were willing to throw in a fourth to move up? Says who? You?

You don't just get to make stuff up either.

Yes. Signing a guy to a one year deal with limited guarantees who has pro bowl upside potential on the side of the ball where you're weakest is the definition of restraint. Just because it didn't work out doesn't make it in true.

As to Baltimore... Wow. Do you follow the Cowboys or do you just skim through them?

It was wildly reported on in some depth on our side of the world and on the Ravens side that Ozzie wanted to move up. Stephen talked to Ozzie who offered their 4th but we wanted 70th overall. Baltimore passed.

My gast is flabbered that you don't know this.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I understand...you are quite the tap dancer. So in an effort to put an end to this dance, allow me to ask you just one question:. What level of team success as a result of Zeke's effort is it going to take to change your mind about the pick? If the Cowboys were to win a Super Bowl within his first contract, would you change your mind?

It my my opinion that the Cowboys are more likely to win a superbowl had they drafted Ramsey over Zeke. Or traded down over Zeke.

I think with a healthy Romo and Bryant that we run the ball just fine. Better than fine. Look what we did for Dmac without those guys.

Zeke is superfluous and wasteful.

 

[Proof]

What's your definition of just fine? Impactless total yards? Wouldn't you rather move the chains, score tds, and give opposing defenses something to actually worry about?

Dmac exceeded my expectations, looked good on occasion and I appreciate him stepping up and being professional at all turns, but come on man. The potential impact from zeke is light years beyond what McFadden offers. There is some truth to the idea that we could have bolstered the defense and gotten enough out of him to improve the team overall, and I was firmly in that camp, but zeke really possesses the tools to make the offense as dominant as possible.

I get diminishing returns, but in this case you're getting 90% of a game breaking, identity establishing, defense demoralizing run game vs 100% of good enough

 

[jday]

Super...but that doesn't answer my question. Not that I'm surprised your reluctant to provide a measure method; it is easier to defend the intangible.