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Just after Bill Parcells left the squad because he was old and did not have enough energy to battle onward. I have no idea what else he would have done to help the team get over the hump of good to great team.

I think the Cowboys are just a really good team. I actually think that is by design. Build a team that can beat the bottom 25-26 teams the majority of the time. Nothing more and then run it back infinitely. Aim for the middle and stay away from the rocks and the stars.

The NFC looks very weak, and it’s possible the team advances far in the postseason as a result. Dallas should feel very fortunate they do not reside in a division like the AFC North or a conference like the AFC. Philly does have a very good offense, but the defense is unstable. SF suffers just a couple key injuries and look like a completely different team. Detroit looks up and down.

I am a Rangers’ fan so I keep comparing the front office off that team to the Cowboys’. The Rangers built their current squad with several young home grown players drafted very high (after dismal seasons). They also added several players via free agency. Then they bet very high on some players at the trade deadline. They hired one of the best player managers before the season, and stayed out of his way throughout the season. The team faced all kinds of adversity throughout the season, and needed every single win to just enter the postseason.

I’m mostly a sit and see what happens fan, but these trends just highlight how the Cowboys’ front office philosophy differs from many championship clubs from all kinds of sports.
 
The Rangers don't have a salary cap so comparing the two is pretty pointless.

Jerry would buy the best team in the league every year if there wasn't a cap.
 
The team's best shot was Parcells hanging around one more year in 2007, even if there was a Jerry/Parcells Cold War behind the scenes. I'll always believe that, until the team proves otherwise.
 
Just after Bill Parcells left the squad because he was old and did not have enough energy to battle onward.
Rewriting your own narrative, huh? The season before Bill left is when Jerry forced Terrell Owens on him. Bill didn't want that cancer on the team and Jerry did it any way. Bill left the following season because he was done with Jerry, not because he was old and lacking energy..
 
The Rangers don't have a salary cap so comparing the two is pretty pointless.

Jerry would buy the best team in the league every year if there wasn't a cap.
If buying the best team in baseball was a thing, you would see way more championships from the biggest spending teams. But that is not what happens in mlb. They typically need all phases working well. Spend big money on key free agents, get dramatic production from rookies and home grown players, add in season talent at the trade deadline to address key concern areas. Very similar parallels.
 
Rewriting your own narrative, huh? The season before Bill left is when Jerry forced Terrell Owens on him. Bill didn't want that cancer on the team and Jerry did it any way. Bill left the following season because he was done with Jerry, not because he was old and lacking energy..
He said in an interview that he had the yearly internal discussion with himself about what type of fire he needs to feel to go another season (right after the loss to the Seahawks). He was retired when he came to the Cowboys and did not take on another post afterwards. I think it was more that than Terrell Owens joining the team.
 
If buying the best team in baseball was a thing, you would see way more championships from the biggest spending teams. But that is not what happens in mlb. They typically need all phases working well. Spend big money on key free agents, get dramatic production from rookies and home grown players, add in season talent at the trade deadline to address key concern areas. Very similar parallels.
Nah
 
If buying the best team in baseball was a thing, you would see way more championships from the biggest spending teams. But that is not what happens in mlb. They typically need all phases working well. Spend big money on key free agents, get dramatic production from rookies and home grown players, add in season talent at the trade deadline to address key concern areas. Very similar parallels.
The Rangers finally decided to go all in to get that first championship. Jerry will never do the same.

But going all in is only the 1st step. If you don't assemble players with the right mindset you will fail. You need players who are focused on a goal, that goal being a championship. Outside of Parsons (who at this point is just trying to get his 1st big contract) is there anyone on the Dallas roster who is really focused on a championship? I would say no, there isn't anyone on the roster who has the passion to go after a championship. And unfortunately, this mindset is trickling down from the owner / front office. If the Owner / GM doesn't care whether he wins a championship or not, then why would anyone expect the players to feel different?
 
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He said in an interview that he had the yearly internal discussion with himself about what type of fire he needs to feel to go another season (right after the loss to the Seahawks). He was retired when he came to the Cowboys and did not take on another post afterwards. I think it was more that than Terrell Owens joining the team.
Maybe, but the Owens debacle was probably the final nail. An owner who keeps trying to rip your balls off at every turn would suck the life out of any coach, even Billy B or Andy Reid.
 
The Dodgers and Phillies got eliminated by the Diamondbacks, even though the teams spent more than double on payroll this season.

The top three spenders did not qualify for the postseason. Basically spending triple the Diamondbacks total payroll.

It takes all three phases to build teams. It takes losing a lot sometimes to build a great young core, to combine with free agency.
 
Rewriting your own narrative, huh? The season before Bill left is when Jerry forced Terrell Owens on him. Bill didn't want that cancer on the team and Jerry did it any way. Bill left the following season because he was done with Jerry, not because he was old and lacking energy..
Parcells got exactly one year before Jerry started freelancing on him. He shoved Eddie George and Drew Henson on him in 2004, Peerless Price in 2005 and then TO in 2006.
 
Just after Bill Parcells left the squad because he was old and did not have enough energy to battle onward. I have no idea what else he would have done to help the team get over the hump of good to great team.

I think the Cowboys are just a really good team. I actually think that is by design. Build a team that can beat the bottom 25-26 teams the majority of the time. Nothing more and then run it back infinitely. Aim for the middle and stay away from the rocks and the stars.

The NFC looks very weak, and it’s possible the team advances far in the postseason as a result. Dallas should feel very fortunate they do not reside in a division like the AFC North or a conference like the AFC. Philly does have a very good offense, but the defense is unstable. SF suffers just a couple key injuries and look like a completely different team. Detroit looks up and down.

I am a Rangers’ fan so I keep comparing the front office off that team to the Cowboys’. The Rangers built their current squad with several young home grown players drafted very high (after dismal seasons). They also added several players via free agency. Then they bet very high on some players at the trade deadline. They hired one of the best player managers before the season, and stayed out of his way throughout the season. The team faced all kinds of adversity throughout the season, and needed every single win to just enter the postseason.

I’m mostly a sit and see what happens fan, but these trends just highlight how the Cowboys’ front office philosophy differs from many championship clubs from all kinds of sports.
Even if it didn’t happen by design, their philosophy sure bred this kind of result, lol
 
It has been the same since 2006. The same conversations after Romo would play a great game but come up just short. The attention to detail. Always coming up short in big games ect.. Replace the coach or QB it doesn't matter it's like groundhog day. The Jones boys have zero clue how to get this organization over the hump.
 
The cowboys are the most successful nfl team every year...oh wait, you meant on the field. yeah, no. But, that is the problem. Win just enough to keep hopes up with the owner that is also the GM and his line of sons, grandsons, and great grandsons in waiting. They are the most successful team in the league by income and presence and likely always will be. They may fall *** backwards into a Super Bowl appearance one day but probably not for a while. We will get them next year....oh by the way, we are increasing prices.
 
It has been the same since 2006. The same conversations after Romo would play a great game but come up just short. The attention to detail. Always coming up short in big games ect.. Replace the coach or QB it doesn't matter it's like groundhog day. The Jones boys have zero clue how to get this organization over the hump.
 
The fond memories people have about Fat Billy and his 4 years of failure never cease to amaze.
 
Rewriting your own narrative, huh? The season before Bill left is when Jerry forced Terrell Owens on him. Bill didn't want that cancer on the team and Jerry did it any way. Bill left the following season because he was done with Jerry, not because he was old and lacking energy..
I am a big fan of Bill P , but his evaluation of offensive players sometimes off the mark , Vinny T , Keyshawn just to name a few- those were over the hill players. He did help with D , bringing in D ware , Spears and Canty . Only with infusion of Romo the offensive side improved , even Glenn was off and on - injury prone , TO did help on the field but his off field issues were too much
 
Just after Bill Parcells left the squad because he was old and did not have enough energy to battle onward. I have no idea what else he would have done to help the team get over the hump of good to great team.

I think the Cowboys are just a really good team. I actually think that is by design. Build a team that can beat the bottom 25-26 teams the majority of the time. Nothing more and then run it back infinitely. Aim for the middle and stay away from the rocks and the stars.

The NFC looks very weak, and it’s possible the team advances far in the postseason as a result. Dallas should feel very fortunate they do not reside in a division like the AFC North or a conference like the AFC. Philly does have a very good offense, but the defense is unstable. SF suffers just a couple key injuries and look like a completely different team. Detroit looks up and down.

I am a Rangers’ fan so I keep comparing the front office off that team to the Cowboys’. The Rangers built their current squad with several young home grown players drafted very high (after dismal seasons). They also added several players via free agency. Then they bet very high on some players at the trade deadline. They hired one of the best player managers before the season, and stayed out of his way throughout the season. The team faced all kinds of adversity throughout the season, and needed every single win to just enter the postseason.

I’m mostly a sit and see what happens fan, but these trends just highlight how the Cowboys’ front office philosophy differs from many championship clubs from all kinds of sports.
this cycle started in 1997...............
 
Anyone recall the movie What About Bob?

Dreyfus’ character is trying to teach his kid to not be scared to dive in to the lake but can’t pull it off.

Bob, a patient of Dreyfus, shows up at his vacation home and befriends the rest of the family, much to the Doctors dismay.

One day he witnesses Bob successfully getting the kid to dive, runs over like “Thanks, thanks! I’ll take it from here.”

That’s my opinion as to what happened. Anyone who thinks that situation was going to be spun with Jerry being the bad guy is kidding themselves.
 
The fond memories people have about Fat Billy and his 4 years of failure never cease to amaze.
I never thought he was the end all. He wasn’t the same coach with the same coaching tree that he was with the Giants. He was very good at getting buy in from his players. He wanted to NOT lose more than anything. He did manage to rub off on the dummies in the front office though. They could see how critical development of young players was to a successful roster (draft and development took on a much more important factor in their minds I believe).
 

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