This game is going to come back to who's the better quarterback

plasticman

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In a sense, I agree except the definition of "better" may differ. That's the problem with dealing in perceptions rather than a clear and meaurable criteria with which to compare.

Considering that they will have different levels of challenges based on coaching, teammates, opponent strengths, etc, a true and fair comparison is highly improbable. Therefore, there will always by controversy and debate over who the "better" quarterback is.

I'm sure the debate on "the better quarterback" is very popular topic for any team forum.
 

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Patrick Mahomes will not make a mistake against this secondary. Nobody on defense can consistently get him off his axis. He’ll be comfortable Sunday Afternoon.



The Cowboys QB will have to win with his arm to beat the Chiefs. They’ll score 42 points.

Best type of game!
The team with the better defense will win.
 

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This is going to come down to who wins in the trenches. Give Dak time and the receivers will get open..
 

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If Gregory and DLaw were playing, I feel the Cowboys would dominate. As it is, it will be another one of those down to the last possession type games.
Right. Can anyone even name our starting DL today? Lol
 

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It’s funny that we are making comparisons with our#1 offense with 1971 the last time we had a #1 offense . One fact though they leave out is we had a Doomsday Defense.

Too many fans are like our owner who is a follow the ball GM who probably still thinks it was the Triplets that won those championships .

Last time we had a top rated defense it carried Quincy to the playoffs .
 

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No this game will be about whos OL, dl, and total defense can win more then lose.
if neither team pressures these qbs both are in trouble, if neither team cant stop the run both are in trouble..

the teams that runs the best, stops the run the best, and keeps their qb clean the most, wins..

right, that's EVERY Game and nothing changes today..that the blueprint for football lol
 

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Patrick Mahomes will not make a mistake against this secondary. Nobody on defense can consistently get him off his axis. He’ll be comfortable Sunday Afternoon.



The Cowboys QB will have to win with his arm to beat the Chiefs. They’ll score 42 points.

Best type of game!

I'm not so sure. Mahomes has looked uncomfortable all year. Even against the Giants. He's cost the team a few games with some pretty bad picks. If there's one thing Dak has over Patrick, is that he protects the ball better. We rarely if ever see Dak pulling a Carson Wentz or Matt Stafford type pick at the goal line.
 

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I'm not so sure. Mahomes has looked uncomfortable all year. Even against the Giants. He's cost the team a few games with some pretty bad picks. If there's one thing Dak has over Patrick, is that he protects the ball better. We rarely if ever see Dak pulling a Carson Wentz or Matt Stafford type pick at the goal line.
and yet hes top 5 in most categorys still including yards and tds..so his 10 Ints to 25 tds are drop for him but hes stioll top qb even playing the way he has this season..he has 25 tds to 10ints in a bad year..if that bad some of you forget what great actually is..his bad games are average games for 20 other starting qbs.hes still top 5 qb and very dangerous,,

this thinking hes just been terrible or awful , words in this thread are seriously brain damaged..

the better term is hes having a down year for HIM..... not for starting qb that's for sure..
 

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Mahomes 1 Superbowl win and 2 str8 Superbowl appearances.

Prescott 1 Playoff win.


Who would anyone choose?????????:muttley:

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
I guess by your logic Trent dilfer, mark rypein, and Joe flacco are what wet dreams are made of... They're super bowl winners after all ..:mad:
 

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Good point, but he's not so critical to the passing game that it's like being without Z Martin or Tyron.
but when team now doesn't have to account for him then that makes the better CB go to Lamb and the next best to gallup..its not the same hes threat even at 50% , not being there changes the way defense has to cover the rest of them,..
 

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but when team now doesn't have to account for him then that makes the better CB go to Lamb and the next best to gallup..its not the same hes threat even at 50% , not being there changes the way defense has to cover the rest of them,..
Yeah, can't ignore his presence, but we still have a wildcat offense with Gallup, CWill, and CeeDee. I am not afraid like in previous years. And, we still have flares and screens for Zeke and Pollard. Don't forget the TEs. If it falls off that much, it's on the coaches.
 

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:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
I guess by your logic Trent dilfer, mark rypein, and Joe flacco are what wet dreams are made of... They're super bowl winners after all ..:mad:
no but 2 MVPs and b2b trips to the sb , a sb win, and 3 straight championship games because of him not despite him is why hes still élite.all in his first 3 years as a starter LOL those guys you listed is shameful attempt to lower mahomes status to somehow keep dak relative ie close the gap from dak to mahomes..Daks playing great, best year in his career but sorry he will most likely never achieve what mahomes already fid in half the years daks been playing..

get over it mahomes is not overrated hes been elite now ,this HIS so called OFF season, hes dropped to just good for few games..sorry Charlie but 25tds top 5 in yards etc etc says hes still playing well compared to the rest of the league instead of looking down on them from further up just the gap closed a bit..
 

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Yeah, can't ignore his presence, but we still have a wildcat offense with Gallup, CWill, and CeeDee. I am not afraid like in previous years. And, we still have flares and screens for Zeke and Pollard. Don't forget the TEs. If it falls off that much, it's on the coaches.
you can try and find the positives but losing AC for two games hurts this offense because of what i said makes the defense have to cover one less weapon..ok..jeez..
 

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and yet hes top 5 in most categorys still including yards and tds..so his 10 Ints to 25 tds are drop for him but hes stioll top qb even playing the way he has this season..he has 25 tds to 10ints in a bad year..if that bad some of you forget what great actually is..his bad games are average games for 20 other starting qbs.hes still top 5 qb and very dangerous,,

this thinking hes just been terrible or awful , words in this thread are seriously brain damaged..

the better term is hes having a down year for HIM..... not for starting qb that's for sure..

I think he's very good. He's just never had a bad or tough year and is trying to compensate. I'm sure he'll adjust at some point. His stats alone don't tell the whole story. You can have a QB that throws 25 TDs and 10 picks without having a horrible interception that ended up costing you the game. Like he had against the Ravens. He looked like Brett Favre after a few drinks on that play. It was him trying to play hero ball and made one of the worst decisions a QB can make. It was comedy hour. Stats don't show that. That Int is the same as an int off your WRs hands in the stats. They won the game against Washington despite him, not because of him.

This is what I'm talking about. He has had success in all 3 seasons he has started. The AFC Championship game followed by two super bowl appearances. Unless your name is Tom Brady and on a team coached by Belichick, this is not something that will remain routine. He has to get used to it and adjust accordingly. Next year won't be any easier as his cap hit skyrockets.
 

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Why?

We have
the better offensive line,
the better run game, and
the better defense.

Why would it come down to who has the better QB. It could, but they could both play great or poorly and lose for other reasons.
 
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