This Game was lost early...I knew it than and more now !!!

[links18]

It was an assinine call. You have got to go for it there in that situation.

 

[craig71]

He had plenty of distance on the kick and just missed it wide left. So attempting the kick was not a bad call it may not have been the call you would have made but I some how doubt many would handle being 2nd guessed had they gone for it and failed. People would ask why didn't you take the points. Everything is easy to call after the fact. As I said I could understand both sides and was willing to live with the outcome of attempting the kick or going for it.

The thing about it is that sometimes it isn't about how far a kicker can strike the ball,it's about how much lateral movement his kicks have.Even which hashmark the ball is placed on can have an effect on some kickers range.If in pre-game warmups he's pulling the ball and barely making it inside the uprights from 45 yards that is his mximum range,even though the ball is travelling 60 yards.

Craig

 

[garyv]

we probably pickup 8 inches rather than take a shot with Suisam from 48 yards out when hes struggled with lesser FG's. It was very bad timeing right there not to shove it down their throat and give their Defense something more to think about.

 

[Doomsday101]

The thing about it is that sometimes it isn't about how far a kicker can strike the ball,it's about how much lateral movement his kicks have.Even which hashmark the ball is placed on can have an effect on some kickers range.If in pre-game warmups he's pulling the ball and barely making it inside the uprights from 45 yards that is his mximum range,even though the ball is travelling 60 yards.

Craig

he had hit 83% of his kicks this season. Had Dallas gone for it and failed I have no doubts that people would be up in arms over that as well. Was it a bad call kicking it? No it was not it made perfect sense to take points when you get the chance, the kicker failed. Going for it was clearly an option had Dallas gambled and failed I would have understood that as well. What I don't care for is these arm chair coaches who act as if there was only one call to be made and Wade made the wrong one.

 

[DFWJC]

Personally, in my make believe world as Cowboy HC, I would have gone for it--given the way we were running the ball early. But they were indoors, and scoring first can be a big deal psychologically. I don't see how you say he didn't have guts...quite the opposite really with the risky kicker. It was a lost gamble, imo. Suisham had no problem with length but it drifted on him.

 

[baj1dallas]

I thought this play was a little overrated given the way the Offensive Line was totally dominated.

Since this was a 48 yard field goal attempt, believe Wade Phillips should have went for it but even if we pickup the 1st down, I still believe we would have lost.

imo Wade went for it to see how Suisham was going to go. Better to find out if your kicker has "it" early in the day than in the fourth quarter. The way things were going at that point there wasn't any reason to fear what Minnesota would do if he did miss.

 

[BAZ]

Suisham couldn't hit his mother in the *** if you gave him a 2 x 4.

Why would he ever want to?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Wade is the guy who didn't have the guts to go for it on fourth-and-less-than-a-yard at the Minnesota 30 in the first quarter. We had them on their heels and could have hurt their confidence. The best play to run here is a pitch to Felix Jones on the outside. I just couldn't believe we didn't go for it....thats when I knew we were going to get beat and outcoached.

I completely and whole heartedly disagree. I can tell you what a wrong move that would have been that early in the game on so many levels. for one we had struggled badly in short yardage situations. secondly you have opportunity to put 3 on the board on the road, you take it.

 

[DFWJC]

We gave up 34 points.

If the offense scores just a little, my guess is the Vikes only get 20 points max. The last two scores were slop.
Either way, we lost...and the offense did not help at all.

 

[Hook'em#11]

I still wouldn't kick it if I were the HC. No way. Not with that kicker.

And for the rest of the game I am praying that it wouldn't come down to a FG to win.

 

[CowboyDan]

:madden:

In the Playoffs, on the road, you take the points when you should get them. A kicker needs to make that kick. He had the distance. Lateral movement wasn't the problem, AIM was. He started both FGs right at the upright and they both missed.
That being said, Here's to a new kicker this year in Dallas. :toast2:

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I still wouldn't kick it if I were the HC. No way. Not with that kicker.

And for the rest of the game I am praying that it wouldn't come down to a FG to win.

on the contrary, at that point early in the game, score 0-0 you try your kicker and see where he is. if he makes it, then great, gives the kicker confidence and you are up3-0. if not, then you know you can't rely on him and your game plan should be to score TDs and get much closer than the 30.

the much closer than the 30 worked...once....then we couldn't get any TDs....

 

[Established1971]

Oh please that is non sense, there was nothing wrong with trying to hit the FG. Had Dallas failed on the 4th down I'm sure the same lame ars people would be hollering why we did not go for the 3.

I think he is completely correct mostly because of Suisham. There was no reason to think Suisham would hit a FG at that range.

 

[Established1971]

on the contrary, at that point early in the game, score 0-0 you try your kicker and see where he is. if he makes it, then great, gives the kicker confidence and you are up3-0. if not, then you know you can't rely on him and your game plan should be to score TDs and get much closer than the 30.

the much closer than the 30 worked...once....then we couldn't get any TDs....

everyone knew we had a terrible kicker, we didnt need to test him in a game. After the Folk fiasco we signed SS out of desperation and he was barely slightly better than Folk had been.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think he is completely correct mostly because of Suisham. There was no reason to think Suisham would hit a FG at that range.

Why he was 5 of 6 from that distance (49-40) on the season.

It was a very makable kick. Had Dallas choosen to go for it and failed I can promise you people would have questioned that as well. Dallas was in scoring range and was doing what most any other team would have done which is get some points on the board.

 

[WV Cowboy]

I wanted to go for it before the FG try, and I will tell you why.

It sends a message, .. of why we are here and what we plan to do all day, .. be aggressive.

It is a message to the Vikes, and a shot of confidence to our team.

It's like pulling an onsides kick early, or faking a punt early. It lights a fire in your team.

We had already run a quick pitch left to Miles and picked up a first down. (great call btw) We could of sent him in motion to the right like we were going to do it again, faked a quick pitch to him going the other direction, and give it to Choice straight ahead behind Bigg & Columbo with a TE on that side.

They have to respect Miles going wide which gives Choice a crease to shoot into. It was less than a yard.

I would live with the consequences.

If we get an early lead, it would have played into our hands like the Eagles games and the N.O. game.

But when they got the lead, it played right into their hands, especially in that dome with that defense.

 

[Doomsday101]

I wanted to go for it before the FG try, and I will tell you why.

It sends a message, .. of why we are here and what we plan to do all day, .. be aggressive.

It is a message to the Vikes, and a shot of confidence to our team.

It's like pulling an onsides kick early, or faking a punt early. It lights a fire in your team.

We had already run a quick pitch left to Miles and picked up a first down. (great call btw) We could of sent him in motion to the right like we were going to do it again, faked a quick pitch to him going the other direction, and give it to Choice straight ahead behind Bigg & Columbo with a TE on that side.

They have to respect Miles going wide which gives Choice a crease to shoot into. It was less than a yard.

I would live with the consequences.

If we get an early lead, it would have played into our hands like the Eagles games and the N.O. game.

But when they got the lead, it played right into their hands, especially in that dome with that defense.

I agree and had they gone for it and missed would not have 2nd guessed it because of the reason you gave. On the other hand I also think it is important to get points when you can as do most coaches which is why the majority of the time teams will settle for the 3. To me there is not absolute right or wrong with going for it on 4th and 1 or taking the FG.

 

[DallasEast]

I could fix the thread title...

nah.

 

[Hook'em#11]

:madden:

In the Playoffs, on the road, you take the points when you should get them. A kicker needs to make that kick. He had the distance. Lateral movement wasn't the problem, AIM was. He started both FGs right at the upright and they both missed.
That being said, Here's to a new kicker this year in Dallas. :toast2:

Not with that kicker. Sorry. No call is really the wrong call. I would of liked the other call more.

 

[TheCount]

Wade is the guy who didn't have the guts to go for it on fourth-and-less-than-a-yard at the Minnesota 30 in the first quarter. We had them on their heels and could have hurt their confidence. The best play to run here is a pitch to Felix Jones on the outside. I just couldn't believe we didn't go for it....thats when I knew we were going to get beat and outcoached.

Wow. I'm pretty sure my answer to your little revelation would get me an infraction of not banned, so I'll leave it alone. Glad you're happy though.