This is Feeling a Lot Like 2010

TheMarathonContinues

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They hadn't given up after one game, though. We lost 13-7 to the Commanders on the last play of the game, a game in which Garrett's offense gave up more points than our defense did.

You're right that the big factor in all this is Romo's back. If it's fine, we should be competitive at least. But Romo got hurt and was out for the year in 2010. Let Romo's back go out again this year and you could see the same thing.

I agree. It still may happen. But I'm more so speaking on the past couple of years. Fans can't stand Garrett and probably never have. But he's been here a few years now. And you would think he would've lost the team by now but to his credit they continue to play hard. I can't explain it other than they truly like playing for him.
 

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What I think is similar is mostly that fans expect similar results. I don't see many similarities on the field, but I'd agree that Jason would be in danger of having the season get away from him if we start out with a three game losing streak. Let's hope we look good and win on Sunday.
 

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I still think we got screwed in the 2010 opener against Was. You never call that penalty.
 

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They hadn't given up after one game, though. We lost 13-7 to the Commanders on the last play of the game, a game in which Garrett's offense gave up more points than our defense did.

You're right that the big factor in all this is Romo's back. If it's fine, we should be competitive at least. But Romo got hurt and was out for the year in 2010. Let Romo's back go out again this year and you could see the same thing.


Romo had an bad start to 2010. Outside of the Houston win he had 9 TDs - 7 Ints. posted 3 sub 90% QB Rating games. He looked good against the Giants, but we know how that ended.

2010 also didnt reap the rewards of the 2009 Special Team draft since Minn and TN basincally won games with returns
 

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I'll say this...

If the defense can't beat Jake Locker's stare downs then they are in trouble. Locker is a marginal QB and that is being nice.

Also if the offense can't take advantage of Ray Horton's tendency to bring A-gap blitzes we are done.

If the Cowboys go 0-2 to start, I'll go out on a limb and say this season is done, because this team doesn't have the mental fortitude to overcome that record and what it usually means in the NFL.
 

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Wait a month, you'll see 2010 all over again. By 2 months, the "unnamed sources" will be back. I said this before the seasons started, you can't miss the playoffs 4 straight years and not have some animosity building in the locker room.
 

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Wait a month, you'll see 2010 all over again. By 2 months, the "unnamed sources" will be back. I said this before the seasons started, you can't miss the playoffs 4 straight years and not have some animosity building in the locker room.

Most of that locker room hasn't been here four years.
 

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Most of that locker room hasn't been here four years.

It doesn't matter. All the players know the recent history of this franchise regardless how long they've been here. It could also come from the coaches who have been here for awhile. I'm just saying the angst will build and people will start talking to the media just like in 2010. Garrett's style does not buy him any margin for error with the players. He's monotone, repetitive, and uncharismatic. He also doesn't have the respect factor of having a long term deal in place.
 

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Carter & McClain played with a lot of energy and physical style.
I think once McClain gets really settled in, that other players, even if already playing at a higher tempo, will play even more physical also.

It will be contagious, especially once they get a few wins in, and if this defense shows steady improvement. after all, they have no where to go but up.

Not even close to 2010. We have younger, hungrier players, ready to make their way to a NFL career, and long good ones too.

I agree with everything you said about being younger and hungrier but the last time i checked our QB isnt getting any younger. IN FACT he looked like he was turning 50 next month with his play. Granted the rust factor but sooner or later this team has to address the QB position in the draft or free agency. I know these words strike horror in some and i am sorry but as much as i love the guy and the guts he plays with we just arent moving forward. I am still taking a wait and see approach for this year but we go down against the TITANS panic i believe will start to set in.
 

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I agree with everything you said about being younger and hungrier but the last time i checked our QB isnt getting any younger. IN FACT he looked like he was turning 50 next month with his play. Granted the rust factor but sooner or later this team has to address the QB position in the draft or free agency. I know these words strike horror in some and i am sorry but as much as i love the guy and the guts he plays with we just arent moving forward. I am still taking a wait and see approach for this year but we go down against the TITANS panic i believe will start to set in.

true.
I think they need to go QB in the 1st 2 rounds next year, no matter what, just get a QB.
 

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It doesn't matter. All the players know the recent history of this franchise regardless how long they've been here. It could also come from the coaches who have been here for awhile. I'm just saying the angst will build and people will start talking to the media just like in 2010. Garrett's style does not buy him any margin for error with the players. He's monotone, repetitive, and uncharismatic. He also doesn't have the respect factor of having a long term deal in place.

It's been reported many times, from many sources, that Garrett's demeanor in front of the Dallas press and his demeanor in front of his players is very different.

This goes back to the discussion we always get after losses where fans think a coach is weak or a QB is not taking responsibility simply because of what they say in a public press conference. I'm always blown away by that because it seems so evident that that's a tiny fraction of the discussion these guys have on the topic of the loss, and it's a setting that's so obviously contrived to be sanitary and not emotional.

We've got the same discussion going on about Demarco Murray in another thread where fans think for some reason he's not likely to be vocal about his dissatisfaction with the play change on the goal line sack. I think it's pretty obvious that he had something to say about that to his teammates. The fact that it does not get aired publicly is a. not a surprise and b. not a bad thing by any interpretation.
 

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I was gonna say the same thing. It feels nothing like 2010. To Garrett's credit....these guys play hard for him. In that 2010 year..........those guys just gave up. And you would think after going 8-8 consecutive seasons these guys would but to Garrett's credit they are playing for him. I don't think anyone is playing under their potential. As of right now....the story of the season is Tony Romo. The success or lack there of will be dependent on him.

They gave up eventually. But at the start of the season they just were not sharp nor physical. Too many penalties and too many missed tackles. They gave up after the season started 1-4. We will see how hard everyone plays for Garrett if we have a similar start.
 

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But certain things about this off-and preseason remind me of 2001-2002. I just hope we aren't looking at a year like that.

It actually looks/feels like 2000 to me and that sense of dread that Aikman was done. I remember after the first loss to the Giants when Aikman had a dreadful day and you could hear it in his post game interview that he was done. He made mention of physically not being able to make make some of the throws when he was asked about one of the interceptions where he tried to thread the needle (in the end zone). Or at least that's how I recall it.

I think there's a lot of questions about this season but the primary one is Romo. Is he still physically capable of making all the throws, especially down field. I had my doubts last season and I'm hoping the back surgery may have alleviated some of the issues that may have been affecting his arm strength. Time will tell but he doesn't have a whole of time to work out the "rust."
 

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You do understand that the next coach will be Linehan, Marinelli, Callahan, or some no-name coordinator around the league.

Jerry will never hire or pay a big name coach again.

No, it won't.
 

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I agree. It still may happen. But I'm more so speaking on the past couple of years. Fans can't stand Garrett and probably never have. But he's been here a few years now. And you would think he would've lost the team by now but to his credit they continue to play hard. I can't explain it other than they truly like playing for him.

LOL.. Everybody that loves Garrett calls that GB during Wade's tenure as giving up, but none of them call the Chicago and Saints games last year as giving on Garrett. There were many times during Garrett's tenure that the team showed quit, until Romo bailed this team out putting them in contention with ridiculous QB play. Two years ago for example, Romo went on a ridiculous tear to put them in contention for the play-offs.
 

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it really don't matter about his demeanor in front of the media and players you eventually have to have results, so if he don't win there will be no improvement therefor he will be let go to get to where they say they want to go then they have to win games you cant just keep losing to the good teams and think you are going to compete in the playoffs.
 

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LOL.. Everybody that loves Garrett calls that GB during Wade's tenure as giving up, but none of them call the Chicago and Saints games last year as giving on Garrett. There were many times during Garrett's tenure that the team showed quit, until Romo bailed this team out putting them in contention with ridiculous QB play. Two years ago for example, Romo went on a ridiculous tear to put them in contention for the play-offs.

In that Chicago game last season this team wanted their mommies. They looked like they regretted getting off the plane and just got smacked around. Some points in garbage time totally meant they were trying though.
 

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I agree. It still may happen. But I'm more so speaking on the past couple of years. Fans can't stand Garrett and probably never have. But he's been here a few years now. And you would think he would've lost the team by now but to his credit they continue to play hard. I can't explain it other than they truly like playing for him.

How do you know this? I mean, players have basically come out and said they quit on plays. I don't think anyone is "afraid" of the HC or being benched.
 

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There is nothing but vague, subjective claims about Garrett which border on nonsensical to defend him. We've dumped DCs, changed our schemes as an excuse for his failures. And we lived with a horrendous OL that finally just got improved, but now have to face the consequences of what could have potentially been a HOF career for Romo, who is hobbled by a bad back, because out genius OL couldn't stop basic blitzes up the middle. Now we finally canned him as a play-caller and OC, because Jerry had no choice, yet 'the team plays for him'. Get that garbage out of here.
 
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