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Yakuza Rich;1873212 said:
I would take great joy if the 'boys could get back full throttle and just blister the opponent in the next 2 weeks.

Back in '97 and '98, the Broncos lost 2 of their last 4 games in each season. Yet, they went on to win those Super Bowls and rather handily. Nobody has mentioned this in reference to Dallas.

I just find it preposterous that the media can act like HFA and a bye mean so little. But they are not in the business of looking at things factually.




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To get back to full throttle I really think there is only one ingredient needed and that is Terrell Owens involved early and often in the game plan. Every other Offensive player is more dangerous if the opponent has to focus their scheme on how to minimize his impact.
 

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Hostile;1873453 said:
To get back to full throttle I really think there is only one ingredient needed and that is Terrell Owens involved early and often in the game plan. Every other Offensive player is more dangerous if the opponent has to focus their scheme on how to minimize his impact.

I think running some formations to try and get Owens open is important but I think still comes down to one simple thing for Romo and that is get the ball to the open man and do not try and force the issue. Romo gets into more trouble when he locks in on one man, he must continue to make his reads and hit the open man if that is TO great but if teams put double and triple teams on TO Romo has to be willing to take what they are leaving open. Watching Brady he makes a killing off doing just that, he wants to go to Moss but he is not going to force it too many times to him he goes to his other weapons.
 

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Hostile;1873453 said:
To get back to full throttle I really think there is only one ingredient needed and that is Terrell Owens involved early and often in the game plan. Every other Offensive player is more dangerous if the opponent has to focus their scheme on how to minimize his impact.

Yes.
Our chances increase greatly when he is involved in more of the game than not.


Doomsday101;1873459 said:
I think running some formations to try and get Owens open is important but I think still comes down to one simple thing for Romo and that is get the ball to the open man and do not try and force the issue. Romo gets into more trouble when he locks in on one man, he must continue to make his reads and hit the open man if that is TO great but if teams put double and triple teams on TO Romo has to be willing to take what they are leaving open. Watching Brady he makes a killing off doing just that, he wants to go to Moss but he is not going to force it too many times to him he goes to his other weapons.

Yes.
But... its becoming an old song...
Where there is a will there is a way. Gotta find a way. Cant let defenses dictate too much when it comes to Owens.

One thing we have not really done is IMPOSE ourselves against other teams. Plenty of times we were the far superior team and it took us way too long to get going. We have good/great players. I believe we can dictate more than we have been.

NOW... the playoffs... would be a great time to start.
 

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YoMick;1873471 said:
Yes.
Our chances increase greatly when he is involved in more of the game than not.




Yes.
But... its becoming an old song...
Where there is a will there is a way. Gotta find a way. Cant let defenses dictate too much when it comes to Owens.

One thing we have not really done is IMPOSE ourselves against other teams. Plenty of times we were the far superior team and it took us way too long to get going. We have good/great players. I believe we can dictate more than we have been.

NOW... the playoffs... would be a great time to start.

As I said you put TO in formations to try and get him open but it is stupid to think that if TO has 2 or 3 guys on him and you forcing the ball to him when you may have a wideopen target on the other side. Brady does not sit there and throwing to Moss all game long if covered he checks down to Welker or one of his other targets and by doing that he stays away from the ints which will kill you quicker than anything in the playoffs. I want TO involved as much as you but no I don't want to see balls being forced to 1 player when you have open targets else where. We have others on this team who can and have made big plays for us.
 

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Doomsday101;1873480 said:
As I said you put TO in formations to try and get him open but it is stupid to think that if TO has 2 or 3 guys on him and you forcing the ball to him when you may have a wideopen target on the other side. Brady does not sit there and throwing to Moss all game long if covered he checks down to Welker or one of his other targets and by doing that he stays away from the ints which will kill you quicker than anything in the playoffs. I want TO involved as much as you but no I don't want to see balls being forced to 1 player when you have open targets else where. We have others on this team who can and have made big plays for us.


If we are lucky enough to have 3 guys on Owens the rest of the offensive players can feast... ie. Witten and co. Never said to throw to him with triple coverage..... now double coverage is a different story;) ... but seriously...we have seen WR's get the ball with double coverage.... not advocating it... but if we have to do a few endarounds to get Owens the ball then so be it.... atleast then we throw the defenses off balance....lately.... defenses are looking pretty balanced against us... Romo is sitting back there and getting more hits than I would like.


Its playoff time. Things are different.

If TO is not getting some major touches OR less touches that result in points... it reduces our chances of winning... GREATLY!
 

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YoMick;1873487 said:
If we are lucky enough to have 3 guys on Owens the rest of the offensive players can feast... ie. Witten and co. Never said to throw to him with triple coverage..... now double coverage is a different story;) ... but seriously...we have seen WR's get the ball with double coverage.... not advocating it... but if we have to do a few endarounds to get Owens the ball then so be it.... atleast then we throw the defenses off balance....lately.... defenses are looking pretty balanced against us... Romo is sitting back there and getting more hits than I would like.


Its playoff time. Things are different.

If TO is not getting some major touches OR less touches that result in points... it reduces our chances of winning... GREATLY!

I want TO involved I just don't want to see Romo forcing things that are not there because when he has it has cost him. As for it being playoff time it is not that much different turnovers in the playoffs can kill you just as quickly as they do in the reg season. This offense is at it's best when we are being a bit balanced and spreading the ball around. Look at the Packers game TO 7 catches over 150 and a TD, Witten 6 catches and Crayton with 3 catches 2 for TD's along with Barber on 17 carries for 81.
 

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Hostile;1873453 said:
To get back to full throttle I really think there is only one ingredient needed and that is Terrell Owens involved early and often in the game plan. Every other Offensive player is more dangerous if the opponent has to focus their scheme on how to minimize his impact.

I agree with that and in big games this year Garrett has moved him around and has gotten him the ball early. The more you show of that the more teams are going to scheme to defend against it.

We have played very well in big games this year so while I don't like the way we have played these last few weeks I think it is understandable for a young team to let up a bit once they had the division locked up.

We were playing very well against Carolina and would have blown them out had TO not gone down IMO.

We were completely unfocused versus the Skins - it was irritating to watch but I am getting over it.

I was looking forward to the off week and just trying to enjoy the playoff games before Sunday, Sunday bummed me out a bit but a Washington loss this weekend will lift my spirits alot!
 

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Doomsday101;1873480 said:
As I said you put TO in formations to try and get him open but it is stupid to think that if TO has 2 or 3 guys on him and you forcing the ball to him when you may have a wideopen target on the other side. Brady does not sit there and throwing to Moss all game long if covered he checks down to Welker or one of his other targets and by doing that he stays away from the ints which will kill you quicker than anything in the playoffs. I want TO involved as much as you but no I don't want to see balls being forced to 1 player when you have open targets else where. We have others on this team who can and have made big plays for us.

I think the first Washington game was a prime example of how to use TO. Be patient trying to get him the ball. It will come if you use your other options first and then once they try to adjust to those you light them up with TO.
 

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aikemirv;1873516 said:
I think the first Washington game was a prime example of how to use TO. Be patient trying to get him the ball. It will come if you use your other options first and then once they try to adjust to those you light them up with TO.

Exactly I think it is important to spread the ball around as well as mixing in the run I think that is how you cause problems for defenses and as they are forced to adjust it will create openings for TO. Like others I want to see Owens moved around and put into motion but if the defense wants to slid their coverage to Owens side it will create the big plays else where.
 

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Doomsday101;1873495 said:
I want TO involved I just don't want to see Romo forcing things that are not there because when he has it has cost him. As for it being playoff time it is not that much different turnovers in the playoffs can kill you just as quickly as they do in the reg season. This offense is at it's best when we are being a bit balanced and spreading the ball around. Look at the Packers game TO 7 catches over 150 and a TD, Witten 6 catches and Crayton with 3 catches 2 for TD's along with Barber on 17 carries for 81.

I never said force it to TO.

Oh contrare monfrare ...Playoff time IS MUCH DIFFERENT. Lay your guts out there. Regular season you can pick and choose when you do.
 

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YoMick;1873599 said:
I never said force it to TO.

Oh contrare monfrare ...Playoff time IS MUCH DIFFERENT. Lay your guts out there. Regular season you can pick and choose when you do.

The game does not change it is still the same game of football. Emotions may be running higher but the game is the same. You don't go away from what got you to this point.
 

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Doomsday101;1873620 said:
The game does not change it is still the same game of football. Emotions may be running higher but the game is the same. You don't go away from what got you to this point.



I disagree.

If its "Win or go home"..... you do things differently.

New year...we still disagree on some things.... all is great in the world... Happy New Years!!!! :)
 

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YoMick;1873654 said:
I disagree.

If its "Win or go home"..... you do things differently.

New year...we still disagree on some things.... all is great in the world... Happy New Years!!!! :)

The end is different lose and go home and the emotions are high but the game is still the same game and teams will continue to do things that helped them get to this point. Focus and attention to detail is very important but in the end it is still the same game and it takes the same things to win and the mistakes like penalties and turnovers are still the things that will cause a team to lose.
 

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Doomsday101;1873695 said:
The end is different lose and go home and the emotions are high but the game is still the same game and teams will continue to do things that helped them get to this point. Focus and attention to detail is very important but in the end it is still the same game and it takes the same things to win and the mistakes like penalties and turnovers are still the things that will cause a team to lose.


The general consensus here for the regular season has been that we arent showing everything.

I get your point.
Do you get my counterpoint?
 

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YoMick;1873699 said:
The general consensus here for the regular season has been that we arent showing everything.

I get your point.
Do you get my counterpoint?

I agree there very well could be things that we have not shown much of or at all that we could use in the playoffs but in the end to win you have to still do the basics and be able to run your base offense that does not change.
 

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Doomsday101;1873704 said:
I agree there very well could be things that we have not shown much of or at all that we could use in the playoffs but in the end to win you have to still do the basics and be able to run your base offense that does not change.


No-no.... you cant agree and have it both ways :lmao2:you waffler..

Do you have political aspirations? :p:
 

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YoMick;1873711 said:
No-no.... you cant agree and have it both ways :lmao2:you waffler..

Do you have political aspirations? :p:

Showing a few different plays in not exactly reinventing the wheel. I just think everything in the end still comes down to doing the basics and the things you did to get you to this point. If you get away from that then you did not give yourself the best chance to win.

If you are expecting some brand new offense to emerge I think you are wrong, there is nothing wrong with the offense we have if the guys remain focus and execute it was good enough to put up over 30 points a game
 

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Doomsday101;1873722 said:
Showing a few different plays in not exactly reinventing the wheel. I just think everything in the end still comes down to doing the basics and the things you did to get you to this point. If you get away from that then you did not give yourself the best chance to win.

If you are expecting some brand new offense to emerge I think you are wrong, there is nothing wrong with the offense we have if the guys remain focus and execute it was good enough to put up over 30 points a game


:laugh2: ok ok...

You are spinning now...
I am getting dizzy.

I made my point. You made yours(different from mine) and then agreed with mine.
 
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