This is what sound business looks like?

[khiladi]

Or, I could just bash Romo and Garrett in every one of my posts from here forward. Right?

Please don't be-smirch Romo by mentioning Garrett in the same breath.

 

[erod]

Zero risk? He sucks. Doesn't matter if you get him for free and he throws INTs on the regular.

He looked pretty good against Dallas.

 

[erod]

What was his excuse the previous year? Or the previous year before that?

Your boy has been head coach 3 full seasons and cannot even sniff a winning record, even when the D didn't totally suck he still couldn't get the job done.

The past two seasons are the worst defensive years in Cowboys history by a huge margin.

 

[khiladi]

He looked pretty good against Dallas.

That's your saving grace? He sucked against everybody else, but he looked "pretty good" against Dallas?

 

[Idgit]

Agreed
Some people just have an over compensated inferiority complex

Don't pull your punches, brother. Come out and insult me directly. Or did you, just?

 

[Idgit]

Haha. This thread turned into a debate on likes.

You don't think likes on message boards are interesting? I'll agree, it's off topic, but this is just friendly observation and opinion.

 

[TwoDeep3]

It's been interesting watching the 'likes' stats evolve, actually, since we moved over to the new forum software. They're certainly a measure of something. We can probably have a nice debate on what that is and whether or not it's important.

Personally, I think the notion of fishing for 'likes' is kind of bizarre. It's certainly a validation of how opinions, or at least posts, are measured. But the guys on the forum with the most likes are either moderators, who naturally get lift because of the great and obvious respect everybody has for our judgement and intelligence, or simply frequent posters with strong opinions (because it's the identifying with the opinions rather than the quality of the response that people tend to vote for). The very best content providers we have here on the site (and I make a special exception here for WG, who posts a ton of third party content and who is also a mod and has a high like count) aren't necessarily the most-liked posters. This is because creating content-heavy posts is like giving birth, while snarky one-liners (positive or negative) are a dime a dozen. Just playing the odds, the dime/dozen posts are going to add up.

I also think that, if we had a 'dislike' button (a very bad idea in my opinion), we'd see like and dislike counts in just about equal measure for just about every member. Maybe the like/dislike differential would tell us more about the overall quality of the posters. Either way, it's been an interesting feature to have enabled.

So essentially this is like the media where when someone says something one agrees with, he is a genius, and when he says something you don't agree with then the likes have no validity.

As this team gets further away from 1995, and the continued mediocre results are an every year thing, I believe there will be a swing in the Hope of this and other boards as people come to the realization you cannot control stupid.

 

[Idgit]

So essentially this is like the media where when someone says something one agrees with, he is a genius, and when he says something you don't agree with then the likes have no validity.

As this team gets further away from 1995, and the continued mediocre results are an every year thing, I believe there will be a swing in the Hope of this and other boards as people come to the realization you cannot control stupid.

You haven't noticed that already in recent years? A couple of playoff wins, and that pendulum swings back big time. It's been four years back to back to back to back of no playoffs. That makes for an angry fan base.

 

[Hoofbite]

He looked pretty good against Dallas.

You'd be hard pressed to find a QB that didn't.

 

[Hoofbite]

You don't think likes on message boards are interesting? I'll agree, it's off topic, but this is just friendly observation and opinion.

Not so much. I think the "who" is likely a bigger factor than the "what".

I'd also guess regulars would get more likes than sporadically active posters for the same post.

 

[TwoDeep3]

You haven't noticed that already in recent years? A couple of playoff wins, and that pendulum swings back big time. It's been four years back to back to back to back of no playoffs. That makes for an angry fan base.

It's been seventeen years of mediocrity.

That makes people even more impatient.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

It's been a good while since I've been this proud of my Cowboys. Jerry is earning a reprieve from me, albeit etched in sand, not stone.

Do you sense the calm? Isn't it refreshing for a change?

Reason, temperance, patience, and resolve. These are certainly not the qualities we associate with the back channels at Valley Ranch. We've grown accustomed - behind the landscaped mansion's pretentious façade - to the daily scurried undoings and machinations of Jed, Granny, Jethro, and Elly May. Our sitcom Cowboys are showing signs of refinement.

Lack of dough has had its role certainly, but so has the callouses of multiple run-ins with failed promises and propagandized expectations. There's no more shades of Maybelline to paint this pig's lips with. Time for a new farm animal.

I expect some sweaty palms watched Ware and Hatcher walk away to trumpets in foreign ports, and a few bottles of scotch weathered that ESPN scroll continuously NOT mentioning the Cowboys. Plan or not, that doesn't suit Jerry's fanciful ways, nor does it sell jerseys to the casual Cowboys sheep.

But it does make good football sense, and Jerry seems like he's tuned in, blasphemous and distasteful as it must feel to him. He, Will McClay, and Jason Garrett are executing a plan, of some sort, and that alone is encouraging just to write with a serious face.

Mincey and McClain make football sense. Brandon Weeden makes TONS of sense. Dallas just landed a first-round QB pick as a backup for pocket lint in return. THAT is a good football move right there, regardless of the regurgitations of the non-thinking dregs in the sports media.

And lest you didn't notice, Dallas is suddenly among the teams that HAVE money to spend now, while so many pools have since dried up. The early over-spending spree for flawed players with flawed histories and flawed bodies will not help those teams. Just watch. Those franchises will rue those signings, and their giddy fan bases will soon claim they were against it all along.

Patience very well may land Dallas some productive veteran players at bargain prices. Or, maybe not so much. It matters not, for the answers to what ills lies in the May draft. This is a young man's game, and a quarterback's game, so go get the former to help your latter. Opportunism in the meantime is fine, but don't stray from the youth movement too much.

And then there's Jason Garrett.

Love or hate him, he has looked Jerry straight in the eye without flinching, and done what needed to be done. The culture has changed. The roster has turned, with only four starters remaining from that dysfunctional mess he inherited.

Just watch this draft and the remainder of this free agency. And watch the cap pressure diminish, as this transformation continues. Through the fog, you can actually see a blueprint taking form.

Tough decisions are tense, and needed changes are always uncomfortable. Big pictures are often boring and hard to adhere to, and Christmas never gets here fast enough.

This is what sound business looks like. Nice to see a semblance of it, for once in a very, very long while, even if it doesn't guarantee success in the end. The other way certainly wasn't working.

but Jason garrett's in game management sucks. he has to be fired.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

So it took Garrett 6 years as OC and 3 years as HC to get the courage to "look Jerry in the eye"?

These are desperate incompetent people hoping for a miracle

The defense will get better because we we're the worst so there is only one way to go but at the end of season expect 8-8 and more excuses about injuries, new players, and rebuilding thrown in for good measure

To truly improve the organization needs radical changes like new GM and new HC not more window dressing

so you expected the OC to have a lot of say, as opposed to the head coach, but in the same post you said as a coach you expect him to have had the balls to look jerry in the eye....so should our expectations of ryan, Callahan, be the same? should we expect that from every coordinator in the league?

this team has completely turned over in the 3 years garrett has been here. much like what parcells did, getting rid of the useless and the fat happy cats with a sense of entitlement. no more day dreaming that I can take Williams in the draft and make him into lawrance taylor. no pipe dreams like that about players. Ware is gone? the cornerstone of the defense. outside of parcells which of the other coaches would have been able to convince jerry to do that?

 

[Alexander]

He looked pretty good against Dallas.

To be fair, we are capable of making a lot of QBs look good.

 

[visionary]

You haven't noticed that already in recent years? A couple of playoff wins, and that pendulum swings back big time. It's been four years back to back to back to back of no playoffs. That makes for an angry fan base.

so then it is reasonable for fans to be upset? great

also, there has been a lot of turnover in the last 3-4 years but what have been the constants? i ask becasue the turnover has not resulted in better outcomes.

 

[visionary]

Don't pull your punches, brother. Come out and insult me directly. Or did you, just?

our conversations usually dont end well for me because it is not a "fair fight" so i will gracefully excuse myself if you dont mind

 

[Idgit]

our conversations usually dont end well for me because it is not a "fair fight" so i will gracefully excuse myself if you dont mind

That's probably for the best. The direct personal insults in public threads tend to get all of us in trouble when we can't resist them.

 

[erod]

That's your saving grace? He sucked against everybody else, but he looked "pretty good" against Dallas?

It's comical how bent some are about signing Weeden. It's a FREE look at him when Romo is coming off back surgery. How could it possibly hurt?

I expect them to draft a QB in the mid-rounds, too. And guess what? He may end up worse than Weeden.

Brett Farve struggled bigtime his first two years in the league, too. So did Aikman for that matter, as well as Terry Bradshaw, John Elway, and a long list of all-time greats. Look at Alex Smith. Weeden didn't get to carry a clipboard like Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees his first couple of years, and Weeden had to play in football hell in Cleveland.

And again, it costs Dallas literally nothing to take a look.

 

[visionary]

It's comical how bent some are about signing Weeden. It's a FREE look at him when Romo is coming off back surgery. How could it possibly hurt?

I expect them to draft a QB in the mid-rounds, too. And guess what? He may end up worse than Weeden.

Brett Farve struggled bigtime his first two years in the league, too. So did Aikman for that matter, as well as Terry Bradshaw, John Elway, and a long list of all-time greats. Look at Alex Smith. Weeden didn't get to carry a clipboard like Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees his first couple of years, and Weeden had to play in football hell in Cleveland.

And again, it costs Dallas literally nothing to take a look.

the million dollar question is whether garrett looked jerry in the eye when he recommended signing weeden?

if not, all is lost

 

[erod]

the million dollar question is whether garrett looked jerry in the eye when he recommended signing weeden?

if not, all is lost

LOL, somehow I wish I worded that one line a little differently. Geez, folks can hone in on one small phrase like nobody's business.

But to the point, I think that signing had everything to do with Romo's back and Orton's wishy-washy comments about retiring.