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We have given up 164 total points. The problem is 103 of those points where made easy by our Dallas Cowboys because of either turnovers or penalties.
Not to mention 7 more points given up on a Kick Return, and 4 points in safties.

Folks this is our biggest problem, no question. Just look at this crap.

Jacksonville game -
3 points given up after 15 yard personal foul
7 points given up after Bledose INT and Jags only have to go 32 yards
7 points given up after Bledose INT and Jags only have to go 40 yards

Washington Game -
3 points given up after 2 personal foul penalties for 30 yards.

Tennessee Game -
8 points given up after 36 yard pass interference penalty
3 points given up after 5 yard penalty gives 1st down on 3rd down.

Philly Game -
7 points given up after Mcbriar fumble and Philly only has to go 12 yards.
3 points given up after Bledsoe fumble
7 points given up after 15 yard Face Mask
7 points given up INT return

Houston Game-
3 points given up after 2 Face Mask penalties

Giants Game -
7 points given up after Romo INT and Giants only have to go 14 yards
7 points given up after INT returned for TD

Carolina Game -
7 points given up after 20 yard pass interference
7 points given up after Romo INT and Panthers only have to go 24 yards

Washington Game-
7 points given up after 15 yard Roughness penalty
7 points given up after 48 yard pass interference
3 points given up after blocked FG and 15 yard Face Mask.

In total we are giving up 20 points per game.

13 points a game are given up because of turnovers and penalties.
7 points per game are being given up because the other team earned it.

THIS IS WHAT HAS TO GET FIXED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Thanks for your post....Great research. I wish people would do that more often before going on a tirade of misguided opinions with no supporting facts.

Your post is dead accurate.
 

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Champsheart;1149718 said:
We have given up 164 total points. The problem is 103 of those points where made easy by our Dallas Cowboys because of either turnovers or penalties.
Not to mention 7 more points given up on a Kick Return, and 4 points in safties.

Folks this is our biggest problem, no question. Just look at this crap.

Jacksonville game -
3 points given up after 15 yard personal foul
7 points given up after Bledose INT and Jags only have to go 32 yards
7 points given up after Bledose INT and Jags only have to go 40 yards

Washington Game -
3 points given up after 2 personal foul penalties for 30 yards.

Tennessee Game -
8 points given up after 36 yard pass interference penalty
3 points given up after 5 yard penalty gives 1st down on 3rd down.

Philly Game -
7 points given up after Mcbriar fumble and Philly only has to go 12 yards.
3 points given up after Bledsoe fumble
7 points given up after 15 yard Face Mask
7 points given up INT return

Houston Game-
3 points given up after 2 Face Mask penalties

Giants Game -
7 points given up after Romo INT and Giants only have to go 14 yards
7 points given up after INT returned for TD

Carolina Game -
7 points given up after 20 yard pass interference
7 points given up after Romo INT and Panthers only have to go 24 yards

Washington Game-
7 points given up after 15 yard Roughness penalty
7 points given up after 48 yard pass interference
3 points given up after blocked FG and 15 yard Face Mask.

In total we are giving up 20 points per game.

13 points a game are given up because of turnovers and penalties.
7 points per game are being given up because the other team earned it.

THIS IS WHAT HAS TO GET FIXED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

very informative post.
thanks
 

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Champsheart;1149718 said:
We have given up 164 total points. The problem is 103 of those points where made easy by our Dallas Cowboys because of either turnovers or penalties.
Not to mention 7 more points given up on a Kick Return, and 4 points in safties.

Folks this is our biggest problem, no question. Just look at this crap.

Jacksonville game -
3 points given up after 15 yard personal foul
7 points given up after Bledose INT and Jags only have to go 32 yards
7 points given up after Bledose INT and Jags only have to go 40 yards

Washington Game -
3 points given up after 2 personal foul penalties for 30 yards.

Tennessee Game -
8 points given up after 36 yard pass interference penalty
3 points given up after 5 yard penalty gives 1st down on 3rd down.

Philly Game -
7 points given up after Mcbriar fumble and Philly only has to go 12 yards.
3 points given up after Bledsoe fumble
7 points given up after 15 yard Face Mask
7 points given up INT return

Houston Game-
3 points given up after 2 Face Mask penalties

Giants Game -
7 points given up after Romo INT and Giants only have to go 14 yards
7 points given up after INT returned for TD

Carolina Game -
7 points given up after 20 yard pass interference
7 points given up after Romo INT and Panthers only have to go 24 yards

Washington Game-
7 points given up after 15 yard Roughness penalty
7 points given up after 48 yard pass interference
3 points given up after blocked FG and 15 yard Face Mask.

In total we are giving up 20 points per game.

13 points a game are given up because of turnovers and penalties.
7 points per game are being given up because the other team earned it.

THIS IS WHAT HAS TO GET FIXED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:ralph:

I just did that after reading this. How disgusting.
 

yesfan

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Great post. Send Bill a copy,they need to put that
on the wall.
 

superpunk

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Leading the league in penalties, and they definitely are coming at inopportune times. Parcells said it in the PC - if we hadn't helped them, I don't know that they would have scored. It's a team of players playing stupid right now.
 

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Champsheart;1149718 said:
We have given up 164 total points. The problem is 103 of those points where made easy by our Dallas Cowboys because of either turnovers or penalties.
Not to mention 7 more points given up on a Kick Return, and 4 points in safties.

Folks this is our biggest problem, no question. Just look at this crap.

Jacksonville game -
3 points given up after 15 yard personal foul
7 points given up after Bledose INT and Jags only have to go 32 yards
7 points given up after Bledose INT and Jags only have to go 40 yards

Washington Game -
3 points given up after 2 personal foul penalties for 30 yards.

Tennessee Game -
8 points given up after 36 yard pass interference penalty
3 points given up after 5 yard penalty gives 1st down on 3rd down.

Philly Game -
7 points given up after Mcbriar fumble and Philly only has to go 12 yards.
3 points given up after Bledsoe fumble
7 points given up after 15 yard Face Mask
7 points given up INT return

Houston Game-
3 points given up after 2 Face Mask penalties

Giants Game -
7 points given up after Romo INT and Giants only have to go 14 yards
7 points given up after INT returned for TD

Carolina Game -
7 points given up after 20 yard pass interference
7 points given up after Romo INT and Panthers only have to go 24 yards

Washington Game-
7 points given up after 15 yard Roughness penalty
7 points given up after 48 yard pass interference
3 points given up after blocked FG and 15 yard Face Mask.

In total we are giving up 20 points per game.

13 points a game are given up because of turnovers and penalties.
7 points per game are being given up because the other team earned it.

THIS IS WHAT HAS TO GET FIXED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's Zimmer's fault!!!!!!!!!!!

His dinky-do read-and-react, screw-the-pooch defense is what's killing this season. We need to: storm the Pepsi compound in Valley Ranch; pull the little SOB out of his office to the nearest tree; and hang him by his Frodo ears.



Seriously, good post!
 

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Julius Jones;1149870 said:
Kind of makes you think if they were disiplined where could we be?


I will say it... undefeated.... I will throw in one loss because "stuff happens".... so 7-1:D

If we could just cut it down...we would win... There is hope
 

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YoMick;1149938 said:
I will say it... undefeated.... I will throw in one loss because "stuff happens".... so 7-1:D

If we could just cut it down...we would win... There is hope

But you are what you are. Hope? Yes I'll agree with that but at some point you aren't just a team that's making mistakes that lose football games ... instead you become a sloppy undisciplined football team and that sort of play is expected from those types of teams.
 

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Thanks, Champsheart. I knew that several opposing scores had come as a result of our own mistakes, but I didn't know the breakdown. Seeing it written really puts it in perspective. The question is can you solve these types of problems in the middle of a season? It would be interesting to know if a team that led the league in penalties for the first half of a season ever turned it around to be one of the least penalized teams in the second half of that same season.
 

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Screw The Hall;1150021 said:
But you are what you are. Hope? Yes I'll agree with that but at some point you aren't just a team that's making mistakes that lose football games ... instead you become a sloppy undisciplined football team and that sort of play is expected from those types of teams.

Its funny... because I dont think Bill believes the "you are what your record says you are"... he was asked a question the other "do you think your team is a 4-4 team"? he wanted to say no... we are better... but danced around it alittle.... anyone remember that form PC?
 

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YoMick;1150062 said:
Its funny... because I dont think Bill believes the "you are what your record says you are"... he was asked a question the other "do you think your team is a 4-4 team"? he wanted to say no... we are better... but danced around it alittle.... anyone remember that form PC?

I remember it.

And on the surface this team is way to talented to be 4-4. But talent is only one factor when dissecting successful teams and quite honestly in the era of the salary cap usually not the most important one.

Not one of the seasons in which the Patriots won their 3 SB's did I think they were the most talented team in the NFL. The adjectives I would use to describe them would be smart, driven, clutch, hardnosed, gritty, deep, and well coached amoung others. They had a young QB that was destined to be an alltime great which of course was huge and they did have alot of talent as well. But it was all the aforementioned qualities of that football team that inabled them to persevere on a championship level against sometimes more talented competition.

This Cowboys team exhibits very few of those intangibles at the moment and until that is corrected we aren't going anywhere.
 

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Dear God, the first truly sensible thread since Sunday. If those penalties were cut in half, we'd be damn close to perfect. It's just uncanny to have a D and O ranked as high as we do (and only going to get better) and only be sitting at 4-4.
 

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If this post would have included a picture of a cheerleader....I would have nominated it for post of the day. :D


Just kidding CH......Great post...thanks for the time and effort putting it together.


If this team could iliminate all the brain burps we might just win a few ball games.
 
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