This team just isn’t complete yet!

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Really believe this team is a run game and a defensive tweaking away from really becoming a legitimate Super Bowl contender.

Over the last 15 years, when this team has had its most successful years, it was when they had a dominant rushing attack. Barber/Murray/Zeke. . Good teams will stop one dimensional attacks. A strong running game travels and keeps the defense fresh. Also, has the ability to close out games.

Defense doesn’t need an overhaul by any means, they just are inconsistent stopping the run. When you dissect their issues, it’s due to the lack of size at the lb position and Parsons inability to set the edge. We saw how much better they were when Parsons played off the ball against the Dolphins in obvious run situations. Find a legitimate Mike linebacker and a defensive end who can at the edge.
 

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If they pay dak 50m plus a year they won't be able to put the other pieces around him that you speak of...have to let him go and start over at qb
 

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If they pay dak 50m plus a year they won't be able to put the other pieces around him that you speak of...have to let him go and start over at qb
It's like saying - hey I know this guy is never good enough to get us over any hump without massive help in almost every other position. So let me dedicate the lions share of the cap to him and then see if I can get lucky everywhere else.
 

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It's like saying - hey I know this guy is never good enough to get us over any hump without massive help in almost every other position. So let me dedicate the lions share of the cap to him and then see if I can get lucky everywhere else.
Agreed and let's be clear dak is a good qb, but his issue is he can't beat good teams or teams that run a zone and are physical.

He's just not worth 50m a year...and for the cowboys he won't ever get them over the hump, maybe he does with another team but nit here
 

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Really believe this team is a run game and a defensive tweaking away from really becoming a legitimate Super Bowl contender.

Over the last 15 years, when this team has had its most successful years, it was when they had a dominant rushing attack. Barber/Murray/Zeke. . Good teams will stop one dimensional attacks. A strong running game travels and keeps the defense fresh. Also, has the ability to close out games.

Defense doesn’t need an overhaul by any means, they just are inconsistent stopping the run. When you dissect their issues, it’s due to the lack of size at the lb position and Parsons inability to set the edge. We saw how much better they were when Parsons played off the ball against the Dolphins in obvious run situations. Find a legitimate Mike linebacker and a defensive end who can at the edge.
We can see these obvious issues but our great FO cannot

Put Henry or James Connor on this team at the trade deadline and we would have won on sunday and game 1 against the Eagles. We would be the 1 seed with homefield and SB favorites

Lets say we had to give up a 3 to get one of them. Would you not give that up to be in the SB?

Our FO is so stupid it is comical
 

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This team's championship ritual is complete for the time being who knows if or when they will win again one title for each point of the Pentagram
 

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Agreed and let's be clear dak is a good qb, but his issue is he can't beat good teams or teams that run a zone and are physical.
I kind of see your point but really at this point it all comes down to how you define good. Personally I have always thought of Dak as a very average QB and it isn't even that he needs to beat the good teams by himself. For me it comes down to does he do the things necessary to not hurt his team when facing the better teams and I have yet to see him do this. Beating good teams even the best in the biz struggle at it, totally admit it. The difference however is that the best in the biz doesn't screw his team when facing better competition.
 

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A run game alone isn't good enough. You need to have a QB that can at the very least keep defenses honest enough to not stack the box.
Our FO made 2 decisions that have determined where we are

Signing LVE instead of Wagner for 500k less

Not getting Henry or Connor at the trade deadline

Do these 2 and we are the 1 seed right now
 

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I kind of see your point but really at this point it all comes down to how you define good. Personally I have always thought of Dak as a very average QB and it isn't even that he needs to beat the good teams by himself. For me it comes down to does he do the things necessary to not hurt his team when facing the better teams and I have yet to see him do this. Beating good teams even the best in the biz struggle at it, totally admit it. The difference however is that the best in the biz doesn't screw his team when facing better competition.
Yeah, I guess when I say good I define as better than 50 percent of the starters out there, which he is...I just don't want him on our team anymore, I'd rather lose with someone that has potential to be better
 

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Really believe this team is a run game and a defensive tweaking away from really becoming a legitimate Super Bowl contender.

Over the last 15 years, when this team has had its most successful years, it was when they had a dominant rushing attack. Barber/Murray/Zeke. . Good teams will stop one dimensional attacks. A strong running game travels and keeps the defense fresh. Also, has the ability to close out games.

Defense doesn’t need an overhaul by any means, they just are inconsistent stopping the run. When you dissect their issues, it’s due to the lack of size at the lb position and Parsons inability to set the edge. We saw how much better they were when Parsons played off the ball against the Dolphins in obvious run situations. Find a legitimate Mike linebacker and a defensive end who can at the edge.

You’ll never have a complete team in this era of football.

The Cowboys as they currently stand have enough.

They just need to outplay their opponent.
 

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It's like saying - hey I know this guy is never good enough to get us over any hump without massive help in almost every other position. So let me dedicate the lions share of the cap to him and then see if I can get lucky everywhere else.
Dang.


Its like that for all QBs though.

Look what Mahomes is working with.

Our roster is way better than the Chiefs.

QB contracts crush your team.

The Cowboys have done a solid job getting Dak a supporting cast. Especially when you consider how bad our draft class is.
 

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Really believe this team is a run game and a defensive tweaking away from really becoming a legitimate Super Bowl contender.

Over the last 15 years, when this team has had its most successful years, it was when they had a dominant rushing attack. Barber/Murray/Zeke. . Good teams will stop one dimensional attacks. A strong running game travels and keeps the defense fresh. Also, has the ability to close out games.

Defense doesn’t need an overhaul by any means, they just are inconsistent stopping the run. When you dissect their issues, it’s due to the lack of size at the lb position and Parsons inability to set the edge. We saw how much better they were when Parsons played off the ball against the Dolphins in obvious run situations. Find a legitimate Mike linebacker and a defensive end who can at the edge.
The problem in "completing the team" is it assumes a linear progression. Not reality in NFL with injuries, player performance year to year and the cap (you fix one area and another area is depleted). The biggest issue though is Jerry refusing to go all in (with the priority of remaining relevance over a championship).
 

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Dang.


Its like that for all QBs though.

Look what Mahomes is working with.

Our roster is way better than the Chiefs.

QB contracts crush your team.

The Cowboys have done a solid job getting Dak a supporting cast. Especially when you consider how bad our draft class is.
Yea but the issue here is that guys like Mahomes are able to get more out of less. Dak isn't that guy and will never be that guy. Dak's the guy that needs the 2001 Raven's defense and the best OL in football to be good. In a salary cap era that ain't happening.
 

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Really believe this team is a run game and a defensive tweaking away from really becoming a legitimate Super Bowl contender.

Over the last 15 years, when this team has had its most successful years, it was when they had a dominant rushing attack. Barber/Murray/Zeke. . Good teams will stop one dimensional attacks. A strong running game travels and keeps the defense fresh. Also, has the ability to close out games.

Defense doesn’t need an overhaul by any means, they just are inconsistent stopping the run. When you dissect their issues, it’s due to the lack of size at the lb position and Parsons inability to set the edge. We saw how much better they were when Parsons played off the ball against the Dolphins in obvious run situations. Find a legitimate Mike linebacker and a defensive end who can at the edge.
I think when the full original healthy lineup is available, including Tyron Smith, Zach Martin, Tyron Diggs, Vander Esch, Hankins we are only one RT, and one more LB away from greatness. That would mean Bland is back as slot guy, line is mostly solid, and we can usually stop the run.

Like to have? A truly great #2 WR who can let Cooks be the slot guy all the time, and a better run stopper at DT, but Odiggie and Hankins are sufficient IF you have good linebacking. You cannot take three pro bowlers off a team without an impact, then throw in two solid starters as well.
 
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