This team just isn’t complete yet!

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I think most people would agree we need to beef up our defensive line, starting with a nasty DT, then upgrade our offensive line.. but a lot of 10-5, almost contenders can say that.
 

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Really believe this team is a run game and a defensive tweaking away from really becoming a legitimate Super Bowl contender.

Over the last 15 years, when this team has had its most successful years, it was when they had a dominant rushing attack. Barber/Murray/Zeke. . Good teams will stop one dimensional attacks. A strong running game travels and keeps the defense fresh. Also, has the ability to close out games.

Defense doesn’t need an overhaul by any means, they just are inconsistent stopping the run. When you dissect their issues, it’s due to the lack of size at the lb position and Parsons inability to set the edge. We saw how much better they were when Parsons played off the ball against the Dolphins in obvious run situations. Find a legitimate Mike linebacker and a defensive end who can at the edge.
You may be correct but why doesn't Dan Quinn use Evans and Clark on the field more along with the nose tackles if you go look at the defensive scheme he runs he has some players on the team he refuses to run the schemes he just doesn't like to change his little hybrid pass rushing super NASCAR packages he runs where he likes to play man all the time leaving our corners exposed it's not just the run game he literally is allowing the team to be walked up and down the field for field goals and somehow our fan base thinks that's cute somehow they like that they think because they didn't give up touchdowns in the last game and that we held Miami under 30 points that we should have won the game that means the expectations is we have to have an offense scored 30 plus points to win a game that is on the defense the old rule of thumb used to be if you have a good defense you need to be able to run the ball on offense play conservatively get to 20 you should win the game that's not the case here we gave them a 20 -19 lead and they couldn't even stop a Nosebleed with a damn towel....

This defense get both raced down the field pretty easily for a field goal they look pretty bad between the 20s unless they get turnovers which they haven't lately get the turnover so everyone here that was screaming at me for saying this was an opportunistic defense that needed turnovers to make stops they didn't force enough punts they didn't limit drives and yardage and time of possession I was getting yelled at here they said it's part of the defense's DNA they lead the league in getting turnovers every year so just expect them to happen

Oh nowhere were all those turnovers the last two games where are all these big time stops where all these big sacks these fumbles where is it it isn't here and this defense now looks like rod marinelli's defense they bend all the way into field goal range and then typically you could almost expect three points on every drive that's what it feels like they need to make changes I don't know what he's waiting for maybe it's the playoffs I mean we definitely played the 49ers better in the playoffs that we played on this year in the regular season then he fences the weakest point on this team I don't care what people are gonna come in here and yell at me and tell me it's something to do with the offense no I saw all the games there were five games all were losses all over 20 given up exception MIA but hey a 20-19 lead with 2 mins left you NEED TO MAKE THAT STOP!

This is the same old Cowboys team we've been used to the defense can't make enough stops now the fans tell the offense they need to be the heroes of the game you need to score 30 that's what they're telling off that's what we're hearing all over social media it's the offense's fault for not being able to score 30 are you kidding me that's what Tony Romo had now that's what Prescott had we need to be real here Dan Quinn needs to change or I'm off the Dan Quinn bandwagon here I've never been on it but you guys are you think he should be the next head coach I say this is the same Dan Quinn Atlanta defense as we were seeing it's the same one that blew those leads in Jacksonville and Green Bay last year on the road giving big Leads.. You know that Atlanta team that blew that giant *** like worse blown lead in the Super bowl yeah that's to me that's we're seeing wake up people something needs to change everybody wants Mike McCarthy out Dan Quinn in you guys are delusional..
losses,
@AZ loss=28
@49ers loss 42
@bills=31
@Philly=28
@MIa=22

SEatle at home gave up 35??

Yep there's your defense I mean look we can call it a team loss we can blame a little bit about offense and play calling but those numbers are ridiculous you're not a championship defense giving up points like that I don't care if its modern day era, you can't be proud of those output the fact is that last drive against Miami that's just it what our defense does they may be able to stop a few drives from becoming touchdowns but you can get into field goal range rather easily in most games unless they pull the ball out even the win againt Philly at home here, those plays were working they were wide open they went behind and pulled the ball out but the execution of the play beat the defense, they were putting up chunk yards the runs the passes and yeah we went and pulled the ball out that doesn't hide the fact that our defense was giving up yardage...
 

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I think when the full original healthy lineup is available, including Tyron Smith, Zach Martin, Tyron Diggs, Vander Esch, Hankins we are only one RT, and one more LB away from greatness. That would mean Bland is back as slot guy, line is mostly solid, and we can usually stop the run.

Like to have? A truly great #2 WR who can let Cooks be the slot guy all the time, and a better run stopper at DT, but Odiggie and Hankins are sufficient IF you have good linebacking. You cannot take three pro bowlers off a team without an impact, then throw in two solid starters as well.
Their priority should have been fixing their run game and adding another legitimate receiver. They added Cooks but did nothing to help their rushing attack
 

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You may be correct but why doesn't Dan Quinn use Evans and Clark on the field more along with the nose tackles if you go look at the defensive scheme he runs he has some players on the team he refuses to run the schemes he just doesn't like to change his little hybrid pass rushing super NASCAR packages he runs where he likes to play man all the time leaving our corners exposed it's not just the run game he literally is allowing the team to be walked up and down the field for field goals and somehow our fan base thinks that's cute somehow they like that they think because they didn't give up touchdowns in the last game and that we held Miami under 30 points that we should have won the game that means the expectations is we have to have an offense scored 30 plus points to win a game that is on the defense the old rule of thumb used to be if you have a good defense you need to be able to run the ball on offense play conservatively get to 20 you should win the game that's not the case here we gave them a 20 -19 lead and they couldn't even stop a Nosebleed with a damn towel....

This defense get both raced down the field pretty easily for a field goal they look pretty bad between the 20s unless they get turnovers which they haven't lately get the turnover so everyone here that was screaming at me for saying this was an opportunistic defense that needed turnovers to make stops they didn't force enough punts they didn't limit drives and yardage and time of possession I was getting yelled at here they said it's part of the defense's DNA they lead the league in getting turnovers every year so just expect them to happen

Oh nowhere were all those turnovers the last two games where are all these big time stops where all these big sacks these fumbles where is it it isn't here and this defense now looks like rod marinelli's defense they bend all the way into field goal range and then typically you could almost expect three points on every drive that's what it feels like they need to make changes I don't know what he's waiting for maybe it's the playoffs I mean we definitely played the 49ers better in the playoffs that we played on this year in the regular season then he fences the weakest point on this team I don't care what people are gonna come in here and yell at me and tell me it's something to do with the offense no I saw all the games there were five games all were losses all over 20 given up exception MIA but hey a 20-19 lead with 2 mins left you NEED TO MAKE THAT STOP!

This is the same old Cowboys team we've been used to the defense can't make enough stops now the fans tell the offense they need to be the heroes of the game you need to score 30 that's what they're telling off that's what we're hearing all over social media it's the offense's fault for not being able to score 30 are you kidding me that's what Tony Romo had now that's what Prescott had we need to be real here Dan Quinn needs to change or I'm off the Dan Quinn bandwagon here I've never been on it but you guys are you think he should be the next head coach I say this is the same Dan Quinn Atlanta defense as we were seeing it's the same one that blew those leads in Jacksonville and Green Bay last year on the road giving big Leads.. You know that Atlanta team that blew that giant *** like worse blown lead in the Super bowl yeah that's to me that's we're seeing wake up people something needs to change everybody wants Mike McCarthy out Dan Quinn in you guys are delusional..
losses,
@AZ loss=28
@49ers loss 42
@bills=31
@Philly=28
@MIa=22

SEatle at home gave up 35??

Yep there's your defense I mean look we can call it a team loss we can blame a little bit about offense and play calling but those numbers are ridiculous you're not a championship defense giving up points like that I don't care if its modern day era, you can't be proud of those output the fact is that last drive against Miami that's just it what our defense does they may be able to stop a few drives from becoming touchdowns but you can get into field goal range rather easily in most games unless they pull the ball out even the win againt Philly at home here, those plays were working they were wide open they went behind and pulled the ball out but the execution of the play beat the defense, they were putting up chunk yards the runs the passes and yeah we went and pulled the ball out that doesn't hide the fact that our defense was giving up yardage...
Yep, I had concerns about the D when everyone was praising it. Much of the D's success came from takeaways---wonderful!!---but it's almost as important to be able to get three-and-outs. Pass pressure is good, but how many times have we seen really good QBs hang in and just nail critical passes? Even nobodies? So I am a little less impressed with pressures that don't lead to a sack or turnover than perhaps the media guys are.
 

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Yep, I had concerns about the D when everyone was praising it. Much of the D's success came from takeaways---wonderful!!---but it's almost as important to be able to get three-and-outs. Pass pressure is good, but how many times have we seen really good QBs hang in and just nail critical passes? Even nobodies? So I am a little less impressed with pressures that don't lead to a sack or turnover than perhaps the media guys are.
Exactly if something doesn't change with the holding calls on Parsons we're not gonna have that success he is being held on more than half the place and yet he's not getting a single flag it's just confusing I'm not saying it's not a league wide issue I'm saying it seems to be ridiculous like there is no explanation on how bad he could be held by not just one player sometimes two players and he's being prevented from doing his job hopefully that changes in the playoffs maybe we get a few extra calls..

But again it's easy just to say this they look like rod marinelli's defenses this is the same thing that has affected our team in the playoffs for years is the defense not making the plays when we need them to and yes against the 49ers last year the offense didn't play well but we also seen Trayvon diggs not get an easy interception and not break up a play on kittles we've seen some long drives with runs I mean that's time of possession eating drives people don't realize this it is a team game but this defense is so shaky right now I don't trust it if you have to score 30 again how's that different from any other year with Tony Romo or Prescott when they're going into games thinking they need to score 30 points..

Before the season started this was supposed to be the strong point we're supposed to finally have a defense that if you can get to 20 points we win every one of those games that's not true
 

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You may be correct but why doesn't Dan Quinn use Evans and Clark on the field more along with the nose tackles if you go look at the defensive scheme he runs he has some players on the team he refuses to run the schemes he just doesn't like to change his little hybrid pass rushing super NASCAR packages he runs where he likes to play man all the time leaving our corners exposed it's not just the run game he literally is allowing the team to be walked up and down the field for field goals and somehow our fan base thinks that's cute somehow they like that they think because they didn't give up touchdowns in the last game and that we held Miami under 30 points that we should have won the game that means the expectations is we have to have an offense scored 30 plus points to win a game that is on the defense the old rule of thumb used to be if you have a good defense you need to be able to run the ball on offense play conservatively get to 20 you should win the game that's not the case here we gave them a 20 -19 lead and they couldn't even stop a Nosebleed with a damn towel....

This defense get both raced down the field pretty easily for a field goal they look pretty bad between the 20s unless they get turnovers which they haven't lately get the turnover so everyone here that was screaming at me for saying this was an opportunistic defense that needed turnovers to make stops they didn't force enough punts they didn't limit drives and yardage and time of possession I was getting yelled at here they said it's part of the defense's DNA they lead the league in getting turnovers every year so just expect them to happen

Oh nowhere were all those turnovers the last two games where are all these big time stops where all these big sacks these fumbles where is it it isn't here and this defense now looks like rod marinelli's defense they bend all the way into field goal range and then typically you could almost expect three points on every drive that's what it feels like they need to make changes I don't know what he's waiting for maybe it's the playoffs I mean we definitely played the 49ers better in the playoffs that we played on this year in the regular season then he fences the weakest point on this team I don't care what people are gonna come in here and yell at me and tell me it's something to do with the offense no I saw all the games there were five games all were losses all over 20 given up exception MIA but hey a 20-19 lead with 2 mins left you NEED TO MAKE THAT STOP!

This is the same old Cowboys team we've been used to the defense can't make enough stops now the fans tell the offense they need to be the heroes of the game you need to score 30 that's what they're telling off that's what we're hearing all over social media it's the offense's fault for not being able to score 30 are you kidding me that's what Tony Romo had now that's what Prescott had we need to be real here Dan Quinn needs to change or I'm off the Dan Quinn bandwagon here I've never been on it but you guys are you think he should be the next head coach I say this is the same Dan Quinn Atlanta defense as we were seeing it's the same one that blew those leads in Jacksonville and Green Bay last year on the road giving big Leads.. You know that Atlanta team that blew that giant *** like worse blown lead in the Super bowl yeah that's to me that's we're seeing wake up people something needs to change everybody wants Mike McCarthy out Dan Quinn in you guys are delusional..
losses,
@AZ loss=28
@49ers loss 42
@bills=31
@Philly=28
@MIa=22

SEatle at home gave up 35??

Yep there's your defense I mean look we can call it a team loss we can blame a little bit about offense and play calling but those numbers are ridiculous you're not a championship defense giving up points like that I don't care if its modern day era, you can't be proud of those output the fact is that last drive against Miami that's just it what our defense does they may be able to stop a few drives from becoming touchdowns but you can get into field goal range rather easily in most games unless they pull the ball out even the win againt Philly at home here, those plays were working they were wide open they went behind and pulled the ball out but the execution of the play beat the defense, they were putting up chunk yards the runs the passes and yeah we went and pulled the ball out that doesn't hide the fact that our defense was giving up yardage...
-we have been in the same page about the defense this season, pretty much getting a free pass throughout the yr, until recently.
-inconsistent against the run shows up more against the better teams.
-safeties have really struggled this season compared to how they performed last yr.
-certainly cannot blame the linebackers dues to the injuries, but they had plenty of time to find replacements, where they rather played hybrid type of players. Clearly they need to overhaul this position and it also shows up in the passing game.

-all said, this defense isn’t that far off. Fix their run defense, get more talent at linebacker should be enough.

-still believe the bigger worry is a lack of a run game. Teams who cannot run the football late, usually get exposed.
 

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Really believe this team is a run game and a defensive tweaking away from really becoming a legitimate Super Bowl contender.

Over the last 15 years, when this team has had its most successful years, it was when they had a dominant rushing attack. Barber/Murray/Zeke. . Good teams will stop one dimensional attacks. A strong running game travels and keeps the defense fresh. Also, has the ability to close out games.

Defense doesn’t need an overhaul by any means, they just are inconsistent stopping the run. When you dissect their issues, it’s due to the lack of size at the lb position and Parsons inability to set the edge. We saw how much better they were when Parsons played off the ball against the Dolphins in obvious run situations. Find a legitimate Mike linebacker and a defensive end who can at the edge.
This is all true. The problem is these issues are easily identifiable prior to season start EVERY year and we cheaply navigate our way through interesting, drama-filled seasons until a very predictable bitter ending.
 

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Really believe this team is a run game and a defensive tweaking away from really becoming a legitimate Super Bowl contender.

Over the last 15 years, when this team has had its most successful years, it was when they had a dominant rushing attack. Barber/Murray/Zeke. . Good teams will stop one dimensional attacks. A strong running game travels and keeps the defense fresh. Also, has the ability to close out games.

Defense doesn’t need an overhaul by any means, they just are inconsistent stopping the run. When you dissect their issues, it’s due to the lack of size at the lb position and Parsons inability to set the edge. We saw how much better they were when Parsons played off the ball against the Dolphins in obvious run situations. Find a legitimate Mike linebacker and a defensive end who can at the edge.
We had a shot, w/ a dominant OLine in 2016. Instead of building the team to win a super bowl at that point, we started drafting injured LB's and projects. And of course multiple CB's.

D needs to be built up the middle: DT's, MLB, and S's. As long as we are average to below average up the middle, we will always fail.
 

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I think when the full original healthy lineup is available, including Tyron Smith, Zach Martin, Tyron Diggs, Vander Esch, Hankins we are only one RT, and one more LB away from greatness. That would mean Bland is back as slot guy, line is mostly solid, and we can usually stop the run.

Like to have? A truly great #2 WR who can let Cooks be the slot guy all the time, and a better run stopper at DT, but Odiggie and Hankins are sufficient IF you have good linebacking. You cannot take three pro bowlers off a team without an impact, then throw in two solid starters as well.
You missed a disruptive DT and a ballhawk at FS.
 

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Really believe this team is a run game and a defensive tweaking away from really becoming a legitimate Super Bowl contender.

Over the last 15 years, when this team has had its most successful years, it was when they had a dominant rushing attack. Barber/Murray/Zeke. . Good teams will stop one dimensional attacks. A strong running game travels and keeps the defense fresh. Also, has the ability to close out games.

Defense doesn’t need an overhaul by any means, they just are inconsistent stopping the run. When you dissect their issues, it’s due to the lack of size at the lb position and Parsons inability to set the edge. We saw how much better they were when Parsons played off the ball against the Dolphins in obvious run situations. Find a legitimate Mike linebacker and a defensive end who can at the edge.
With a salary cap it's hard to have complete teams
We will be going into the off season with a lot of needs:
Running back
Large linebackers
Offensive linemen
 

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With a salary cap it's hard to have complete teams
We will be going into the off season with a lot of needs:
Running back
Large linebackers
Offensive linemen
Put disruptive DTs at the top. That's where super bowl contention starts. Average DT's drags down every facet of your D.

Don't you remember the difference Hankins made when he came in?
 

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With a salary cap it's hard to have complete teams
We will be going into the off season with a lot of needs:
Running back
Large linebackers
Offensive linemen
We have to get better running the football to compete, think you can hide other weaknesses. This is achievable within the cap restraints
 

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And we do. The abysmal running game is holding this team back.
I think we've seen a little bit of a heartbeat like a design plan going forward with the way they were using the running backs in the last game even though we lost and even though there was a fumble at the goal line I think that Mike McCarthy starting to have a vision on what he wants this to be by the playoffs they need to use the next two games as a live scrimmage against teams that are going to want to win the game not just in practice and use it as a way to perfect the run game as best as you can and come up with a playoff caliber game plans when it comes to how we're going to run the football and how we're gonna utilize our players and I think these two games given the fact that we really can't move past the fifth seed we might as well use these next two games as a way of practicing and finding packages and formations and groupings to get this fixed... But I did like what I saw using the fullback more we need to start using the fullback in front of our running backs even if it's Rico behind hunter or Pollard behind hunter they made a few mistakes but you know Pollard just simply stretches the ball out to the left towards the pylon the fumble never happens and I believe he scores I don't know why he didn't do that you know blaming our run game for a mistake made by a running back I think those are things you learn from but I found it encouraging yeah the way they used the whole run packages and lamb behind the line of scrimmage I think it's part of McCarthy's looking for things that are going to work...

I will forever be more worried about the defense I think our offense can score 20 to 24 points a game if needed but can they hold teams under that I just haven't seen it lately I mean maybe they can keep him from getting in the end zone but giving up eight field goals it's not impressive either I'm just saying they literally being walked down the field I'm more worried about the defense right now maybe that should be the next poll what part of the team should we be most worried about in my opinion right now 100% the defense....
 

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The Cowboys have lost 2 games in a row. I think it's pretty obvious the team isn't complete yet.
So the Eagles lost three in a row the 49ers lost three in a row this is not the first losing streak by a good team this year it's not the longest so I guess they're not complete either so that means we probably don't have a complete team in the league since they're not undefeated and there's what six teams with ten wins or more and we're one of them I mean you're trying to show our flaws as if something is different than the rest of the NFL and it's not this is just how it is it's a week to week league and only matters of what you do in the playoffs we've only had two times in the last three seasons where we've lost back-to-back games yo you think that that's a flaw I say that's pretty damn impressive... When's the last time Prescott throwing 4 interceptions in the game Yup Mr. Brock Purdy Mr. MVP locked it last night in an important game where they had something to prove and they got Molly whooped
 
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