This Team Will Flip The Switch

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I think the biggest thing to worry about isn't even the offensive line, it's sean lee getting healthy.

This defense laid an egg, but not every team is as fast as the Eagles and Rob Ryan won't be humiliated again, not soon anyways. He will work twice as hard. This defense will be fine as long as we don't have to give Brooking playing time. Carter is obviously further behind than I hoped, because they didn't even throw him in there to help with the lack of speed.

The offense will be okay too. When it gets a chance to establish the run, 2 man under will essentially be beat, and huge things will happen for our receivers. It'll basically be a whole new world.

We never got the chance with Murray on Sunday. A couple stalled drives, and an interception because of MartyB really helped derail our efforts.

I would definitely try Kosier at center, and bring in Dockery at guard. Costa is just killing us with bad snaps. They're slow, high, and making it even harder to get the ball out to our skill players. Not sure how a center can't accomplish proper snaps...

we will roll the seahawks, count on that. It'll be similar to what the Eagles did to us. I hope Jenkins can come back for the Bills game, but I'm not too terribly worried.
 
Your wrong the Oline is the biggest problem right now. Yea the D blew it Sunday but, but the Oline has been bad all year long. And I mean BAD! They have had 1 good game the D had 5.

Right now this team is in a world of hurt, Philly exposed them big time and I just dont know how they can fix any of the problems now.

Tony has no trust in this line and you just have to watch the game to tell, he looks like he knows he is going to get hit any second. They have no deep ball anymore, Dez well who knows, Miles again who knows. Only positive is that I think we found a real RB other then that the O is a mess.

The D is hurting to, but I dont see most teams droping 34 on them, but can the O score more then 17 at this point?
 
yes, they will

the "SWITCH" is called "seattle"

if they were playing green bay or pittsburgh this week would you have the same confidence?

no way
 
and as soon as that "switch" in on, they will blow a fuse.
 
The switch the ******** need is a new QB who can play ball.
A new owner that cares more about winning than being the focus of attention.
What a sad team this has become. Almost wish the drug addicts would come back. At least they could play ball.




Falcon554;4218332 said:
Your wrong the Oline is the biggest problem right now. Yea the D blew it Sunday but, but the Oline has been bad all year long. And I mean BAD! They have had 1 good game the D had 5.

Right now this team is in a world of hurt, Philly exposed them big time and I just dont know how they can fix any of the problems now.

Tony has no trust in this line and you just have to watch the game to tell, he looks like he knows he is going to get hit any second. They have no deep ball anymore, Dez well who knows, Miles again who knows. Only positive is that I think we found a real RB other then that the O is a mess.

The D is hurting to, but I dont see most teams droping 34 on them, but can the O score more then 17 at this point?
 
I don't think it's a matter of Carter being behind at all, he's coming off a major knee injury that took a year to rehab. You don't put a guy like that in during a blow out and make him overwork it while he's still getting used to trusting it. It was his first game after minimal practice for the love of all things sacred.

It will probably take him a few more games before he's physically and mentally ready to go in and play a significant role on D because of the injury, if they are being cautious with him. I'm not saying he can't do it, but why would you put a rookie in that position? I love how smart they are being rehabbing guys fully this year.

It was a lot more then the ILB's too, Carter probably would not have made much difference since Lee had no impact in the game before getting hurt either. It's starts upfront and that's where we really failed. The pass rush and run D was really bad even before it got the the ILB's.
 
I was assured last year during preseason that they could just flip that switch, i'm still waiting...
 
Falcon554;4218332 said:
Your wrong the Oline is the biggest problem right now. Yea the D blew it Sunday but, but the Oline has been bad all year long. And I mean BAD! They have had 1 good game the D had 5.

Right now this team is in a world of hurt, Philly exposed them big time and I just dont know how they can fix any of the problems now.

Tony has no trust in this line and you just have to watch the game to tell, he looks like he knows he is going to get hit any second. They have no deep ball anymore, Dez well who knows, Miles again who knows. Only positive is that I think we found a real RB other then that the O is a mess.

The D is hurting to, but I dont see most teams droping 34 on them, but can the O score more then 17 at this point?

Philly beat us that is all that happened. They came out playing for their season and played flawless.

I guess St Louis exposed the Saints?

It was 1 game, a very bad game but you still pick up and move forward.

I agree there are areas that need to improve but to throw out all the positives leading up to the Philly game is non sense
 
Doomsday101;4218363 said:
Philly beat us that is all that happened. They came out playing for their season and played flawless.

I guess St Louis exposed the Saints?

It was 1 game, a very bad game but you still pick up and move forward.

I agree there are areas that need to improve but to throw out all the positives leading up to the Philly game is non sense

Exactly. I hate these fans who are so quick to judge and blame. I hate them more than I hate philly, skin, and giant fans....

more than i hate yankees fans...
 
Galian Beast;4218367 said:
Exactly. I hate these fans who are so quick to judge and blame. I hate them more than I hate philly, skin, and giant fans....

more than i hate yankees fans...
:):):)
 
Doomsday101;4218363 said:
Philly beat us that is all that happened. They came out playing for their season and played flawless.

I guess St Louis exposed the Saints?

It was 1 game, a very bad game but you still pick up and move forward.

I agree there are areas that need to improve but to throw out all the positives leading up to the Philly game is non sense

I agree. There are only two areas of major concern for me right now.

Health and that is what it is. All we can do is start the next guy and hope for the best.

Oline. This one I'm not as hopeful for this year. I do think having Dockery back healthy gives us a slight chance to at least improve it this year though. The options include his replacing Holland, his replacing Kosier or Kosier replacing Costa and starting Dockery at RG.

As usual, people are only looking at what happened and not thinking about how or why. We were able to move the ball on Philly running it. We did make some plays in the air, had Bennett held onto the damn ball, that may have been a scoring drive. Had he held onto it, it would have slowed Philly's D because we would have burned them for being aggressive on that play.

Since he did not, we fell too far behind and became one dimensional. Since they had a huge lead right away, they were able to be more aggressive then they probably even planned on being the rest of the way. They brought it every time and overwhelmed the line.

We need to fix our line, but I doubt we see that perfect storm of a team blowing out our D and having the defense to bowl over our offense too for a while. That gives us time to continue to work on the issues and try and improve them.

I'm not convinced we can get it done this year, but it is possible.
 
Galian Beast;4218367 said:
Exactly. I hate these fans who are so quick to judge and blame. I hate them more than I hate philly, skin, and giant fans....

more than i hate yankees fans...

Us Yankee fans still like your threads, you start some good ones. :D
 
Galian Beast;4218367 said:
Exactly. I hate these fans who are so quick to judge and blame. I hate them more than I hate philly, skin, and giant fans....

more than i hate yankees fans...

:bow: Thanks. I needed a good laugh. I hate 'em too. ;)
 
Hostile;4218371 said:

My reactions to Jason Garrett are not knee jerk. They are based on his entire body of work as an offensive coordinator, and his limited success as a head coach.

What qualifies him to be where he is?

Was he a good QB Coach? He was the Dolphins QB coach in 2005-2006. 2005 is the FIRST year he was even a coach. Keep this in mind 2005!!!

I don't see anything he did in those TWO years as a QB coach that would qualify him to be an offensive coordinator in Dallas in 2007.

The offense has taken steps back from 2007 to 2010...

He is promoted to HEAD COACH.... FOUR YEARS as an offensive coordinator, SIX TOTAL years as a COACH... and he is a HEAD COACH now?

Please tell me where in the history of the NFL where a coach became a head coach after first becoming a position coach six years prior.

Tell me where someone became an offensive coordinator after just 6 years of coaching experience, let alone head coach...

He isn't qualified and IT SHOWS. Is he intellectual? Sure. Does he say the right things? Sure. Do we have evidence that he knows what he is doing? No we do not.

Part of the problem the last few years has been the offense. Everyone wanted Wade fired, but Jason should have been fired too.

The offense is a mess after 4 years under Garrett. We hired a retread offensive line coach in Houck.

Look what Rob Ryan did when he came in as coordinator. He brought in some of his coaches that he had experience with, and hired a new defensive line coach. He wanted to get a new secondary coach as well, but I think he was hired as a defensive coordinator.

Garrett hires his brother and some of his friends from his limited coaching tree.

Garrett has struggled to get wide receivers involved in the game since Terrell Owens was here... We still see those struggles.

I'm sorry man, the guy just isn't qualified. I think someone sold Jerry a raw deal here. He probably felt dumb letting Sean Payton go, and didn't want to miss out on an up and coming young coach.

Maybe Garrett is that, but he really isn't ready and it shows. Our offense is so vanilla and predictable. This guy doesn't have years of developing a scheme to put players in position to beat top defensive coaches (or even an offensive line coach...)

We better do something at offensive coordinator next year.

Hire a head coach who gets fired who used to be an offensive coordinator ala Norv Turner.

Hire one of the leagues top offensive coordinators who is going to be replaced.

Hire a top college head coach who is offensive minded.

Hire a top offensive position coach.

It's disgusting how quickly Jason Garrett was promoted before he should have been.
 
:bang2:

Seattle will come to play...they will attack our poor inside backers...Lee can't catch anymore, and if this was madden his tackling went from 95 to a 70 with the cast

we are screwed
 
The offensive line is the biggest problem. Once the offensive line gels, it will:
  • provide more consistent, game-to-game, positive rushing opportunities--which in turn will
  • decrease the need for Tony Romo to pass more often--lessening the chance of turnovers and
  • re-allocating more of the passing scheme from passes that simply extend drives to passes that can stretch the defense and hit home runs (stupid baseball analogy, but it fits)
These circumstances shall not exist game-in game-out until the the guys upfront get their act together. That's more Hudson Houck's job than anyone else's on the coaching staff. It's also dependent upon young offensive linemen growing up faster than they have thus far and Kyle Kosier getting healthy as well.
 
DallasEast;4218403 said:
The offensive line is the biggest problem. Once the offensive line gels, it will:
  • provide more consistent, game-to-game, positive rushing opportunities--which in turn will
  • decrease the need for Tony Romo to pass more often--lessening the chance of turnovers and
  • re-allocating more of the passing scheme from passes that simply extend drives to passes that can stretch the defense and hit home runs (stupid baseball analogy, but it fits)
These circumstances shall not exist game-in game-out until the the guys upfront get their act together. That's more Hudson Houck's job than anyone else's on the coaching staff. It's also dependent upon young offensive linemen growing up faster than they have thus far and Kyle Kosier getting healthy as well.


I agree and disagree with you.

I don't think this offensive line will improve this year. They are what they are. I think the difference is how the offense utilizes them. Once we start running the ball like we did against the Rams, and how we wanted to do against the Eagles (but the defense didn't give us a chance to), those safeties will come in, and the blitz will slow.

It chances the offensive philosophy simply because the defenses that we face will change.

If I was a defensive coordinator, I know how to beat the Dallas Cowboys. I run 2 man under, and blitz the hell out of this weak offensive line.

That's why Garrett brought back the draw play. He wanted to freeze the linebackers and safeties. It's a good idea, but it's only part of the solution. You have to have shorter more immediate routes to complement the running game.
 
Galian Beast;4218317 said:
I think the biggest thing to worry about isn't even the offensive line, it's sean lee getting healthy.

This defense laid an egg, but not every team is as fast as the Eagles and Rob Ryan won't be humiliated again, not soon anyways. He will work twice as hard. This defense will be fine as long as we don't have to give Brooking playing time. Carter is obviously further behind than I hoped, because they didn't even throw him in there to help with the lack of speed.

The offense will be okay too. When it gets a chance to establish the run, 2 man under will essentially be beat, and huge things will happen for our receivers. It'll basically be a whole new world.

We never got the chance with Murray on Sunday. A couple stalled drives, and an interception because of MartyB really helped derail our efforts.

I would definitely try Kosier at center, and bring in Dockery at guard. Costa is just killing us with bad snaps. They're slow, high, and making it even harder to get the ball out to our skill players. Not sure how a center can't accomplish proper snaps...

we will roll the seahawks, count on that. It'll be similar to what the Eagles did to us. I hope Jenkins can come back for the Bills game, but I'm not too terribly worried.

You mean how they flipped that switch after blowing the two biggest leads in team history.

For some reason I am not buying into they are going to flip a switch when they have not learned from the first 6 games now after the 7th game of the year where they where just destroyed from start to finish. Now they finally get it you mean last years drubbings this years two meltdowns where not good enough to turn the switch on ?

:eek:
 
shockandroll;4218378 said:
I agree. There are only two areas of major concern for me right now.

Health and that is what it is. All we can do is start the next guy and hope for the best...

Injuries are a concern, but never an excuse. Last year the Packers won the SB with something like 16 guys on IR and this year the Giants have lost 7 CB's alone to injury, yet still find themselves a top the division...
 

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