Thoughts about Cowboys signing practice squad players

[xwalker]

I'm surprised the Cowboys don't sign more players from other team's practice squads.

There are 320 total practice squad players.

Was the Cowboys own PS player DT Ash really the best of 320 players?

Obviously having time in this scheme gives Ash an advantage but it just seems that the probability that the best player is 1 of your own 10 instead of 1 of 320 is unlikely.

They did sign Irving from another PS but it seems like a rare occurrance.

 

[gimmesix]

Depends on if he's just keeping the roster spot warm for Gathers.

 

[John813]

Yea, I was thinking with the bye week we could of brought someone in, that they may of had an eye on earlier, to see how he looks here.
Don't think we want one 1 tech, especially when it's Price, so I think Ash could find a decent role, or be replaced with another DT.

 

[Alexander]

I'm surprised the Cowboys don't sign more players from other team's practice squads.

There are 320 total practice squad players.

Was the Cowboys own PS player DT Ash really the best of 320 players?

Obviously having time in this scheme gives Ash an advantage but it just seems that the probability that the best player is 1 of your own 10 instead of 1 of 320 is unlikely.

They did sign Irving from another PS but it seems like a rare occurrance.

They don't care who is "the best". They value "fit" and familiarity more.

 

[xwalker]

They don't care who is "the best". They value "fit" and familiarity more.

Just curious on an unrelated topic, what is your opinion of Dak?

 

[speedkilz88]

I haven't been impressed with Ash, but with Price as their only 1 tech on the team they "need" someone that knows the defense.

 

[xwalker]

I haven't been impressed with Ash, but with Price as their only 1 tech on the team they "need" someone that knows the defense.

I get that but it seems like an overly conservative approach. Marinelli generally splits most of the DT snaps between 3 players with the forth getting just a handfull of snaps.
Something like:
1tech #1 - 60%
3tech #1 - 60%
3tech #2 - 60%
1tech #2 - 20%

With 2 positions that should add up to 200%. The 3-man line would change the numbers a little and a DE will often get a few DT snaps, but in general it's something similar to those numbers.

They play both DTs as 3techs on many obvious passing snaps.

A team only gets a few opportinities to raid any other practice squad.

It seems like a few of the 320 practice squad players will end up being starters. Being able to pick any of the 320 seems like having an extra 7th round pick.

Leary was on the PS as a rookie.

Some others:

• James Harrison
• Kurt Warner
• Arian Foster
• Rod Smith
• Tony Richardson
• Jason Peters
• Cameron Wake
• Alex Boone
• Danny Amendola
• Danny Woodhead

 

[Alexander]

Just curious on an unrelated topic, what is your opinion of Dak?

He is doing his best, but I think they are making him the focal point of the offense and even the team too fast.

 

[BoysfanfromCanada]

If you sign someone from another teams PS, don't you guarantee his whole contract? So cutting him later could cost you.

 

[Alexander]

If you sign someone from another teams PS, don't you guarantee his whole contract? So cutting him later could cost you.

Pittance compared to signing free agent duds like Nolan Carroll and Stephen Paea.

 

[speedkilz88]

I get that but it seems like an overly conservative approach. Marinelli generally splits most of the DT snaps between 3 players with the forth getting just a handfull of snaps.
Something like:
1tech #1 - 60%
3tech #1 - 60%
3tech #2 - 60%
1tech #2 - 20%

With 2 positions that should add up to 200%. The 3-man line would change the numbers a little and a DE will often get a few DT snaps, but in general it's something similar to those numbers.

They play both DTs as 3techs on many obvious passing snaps.

A team only gets a few opportinities to raid any other practice squad.

It seems like a few of the 320 practice squad players will end up being starters. Being able to pick any of the 320 seems like having an extra 7th round pick.

Leary was on the PS as a rookie.

Some others:

• James Harrison
• Kurt Warner
• Arian Foster
• Rod Smith
• Tony Richardson
• Jason Peters
• Cameron Wake
• Alex Boone
• Danny Amendola
• Danny Woodhead

Think of it as Price is the practice squad player they took from Packers.

 

[sbark]

Wonder if they made some attempts at PS players from other teams, but were rebuffed--or other teams upped the ante' enough to keep them. Rico was one example of a guy they basically gave a active player size contract to in order to prevent other teams from pulling him away............

 

[haleyrules]

I'm surprised the Cowboys don't sign more players from other team's practice squads.

There are 320 total practice squad players.

Was the Cowboys own PS player DT Ash really the best of 320 players?

Obviously having time in this scheme gives Ash an advantage but it just seems that the probability that the best player is 1 of your own 10 instead of 1 of 320 is unlikely.

They did sign Irving from another PS but it seems like a rare occurrance.

If a club signs other clubs PS players do they not have to be used on the main starting roster? I don't believe they can just be poached for the Cowboys PS??

 

[CCBoy]

I get that but it seems like an overly conservative approach. Marinelli generally splits most of the DT snaps between 3 players with the forth getting just a handfull of snaps.
Something like:
1tech #1 - 60%
3tech #1 - 60%
3tech #2 - 60%
1tech #2 - 20%

With 2 positions that should add up to 200%. The 3-man line would change the numbers a little and a DE will often get a few DT snaps, but in general it's something similar to those numbers.

They play both DTs as 3techs on many obvious passing snaps.

A team only gets a few opportinities to raid any other practice squad.

It seems like a few of the 320 practice squad players will end up being starters. Being able to pick any of the 320 seems like having an extra 7th round pick.

Leary was on the PS as a rookie.

Some others:

• James Harrison
• Kurt Warner
• Arian Foster
• Rod Smith
• Tony Richardson
• Jason Peters
• Cameron Wake
• Alex Boone
• Danny Amendola
• Danny Woodhead

Nice work and direction here. X

I imagine that time to watch development trends in a player on the practice squad is the main hindrance. Match that with the scouting going on now in the collegiate levels, and one has man hours spent problems.

 

[AbeBeta]

I'm surprised the Cowboys don't sign more players from other team's practice squads.

There are 320 total practice squad players.

Was the Cowboys own PS player DT Ash really the best of 320 players?

Obviously having time in this scheme gives Ash an advantage but it just seems that the probability that the best player is 1 of your own 10 instead of 1 of 320 is unlikely.

They did sign Irving from another PS but it seems like a rare occurrance.

It surprises you that a team prefers guys they know? Seriously?

 

[Idgit]

Well they did get Ash originally from the Jags PS.

There's probably not much to differentiate one PS player from another. You do keep guys who fit your scheme, and knowing the defense is a big plus in this situation. It makes sense you'd play your own, if you're not picking up a veteran instead.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's not as if the Cowboys don't have a track record of pulling players off the scrap heap to contribute. It seems like its rare because it is extremely rare that players 54 thru 64 from another teams squad are going to be difference makers in week 7 of the season. Most teams don't have 45 players that are difference makers much less over 53.

You are not going to find many dynamic 300 lbers off the scrap heap nor are you going to find dynamic players in middle coverage. World theory still applies and player development and coaching still count. What you are going to get at best is a developmental player like Irving. At the same time unless you have an idea of a specific player the theory in the OP is untestable nonsense.

As it stands, put me in the camp that the defensive scheme is what needs to be overhauled moreso than the players if the ship doesn't right itself. There are plenty of teams that run consistent 4 man fronts that are able to disguise, generate pressure, and cover. As it stands we compensate for piss poor coverage by taking linemen off the field to flood the backfield with guys in coverage. The defense lacks a cohesive identity.

What we need is for our young secondary to grow and learn. That takes time and I am willing to be patient but I do not see the solution to our middle coverage woes on another teams PS. That would just be another player needing to learn. With DLaw and Irving, we do generate pressure. I am cautiously optimistic with Hitchens and Lee back the coverage will be much improved.

Upgrades to the athletic talent at LB and S will have to wait until the offseason either way.

 

[dogunwo]

They don't care who is "the best". They value "fit" and familiarity more.

How much resources do they allocate to scouting other practice squads? To be effective at this, they must have some scouts/coaches where that's all they do.

 

[TheHerd]

If a club signs other clubs PS players do they not have to be used on the main starting roster? I don't believe they can just be poached for the Cowboys PS??

3 weeks guaranteed. I'm not sure if that actually means 3 weeks on the 53, or just 3 weeks salary must be paid. If Rico is ready this spot could be gone.

This staff does overvalue comfort and familiarity.

 

[CF74]

I'm surprised the Cowboys don't sign more players from other team's practice squads.

There are 320 total practice squad players.

Was the Cowboys own PS player DT Ash really the best of 320 players?

Obviously having time in this scheme gives Ash an advantage but it just seems that the probability that the best player is 1 of your own 10 instead of 1 of 320 is unlikely.

They did sign Irving from another PS but it seems like a rare occurrance.

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