Thoughts after two games

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Let's start with the surprises to me:

- I never thought I'd be saying this, but I am pretty content with where we are at DE and LB. I had concerns about both but the play of guys like Charlton and Thomas have alleviated a lot of concern. I thought Thomas was just going to be a JAG but he's been really impressive at LB in the role we will ask him to play.

The positives:

- I thought we'd be solid outside at CB. I've long said Jones is a CB, not a S. Between him and Awuzie, I think we have two guys that we should have confidence in over a full season. I can't remember the last time we had two guys outside with the athleticism these two guys have.

- Heath, who I think is just average, has had a good camp thus far. Really has locked down the SS position thus far and when in the past, I've noticed gaffes by him, I rarely have heard his name in telecasts, which to me is a good thing.

- OL, overall, has been what we should expect. Williams has had his struggles but I think as he gets more exposure, he'll be fine. Martin's injury, obviously is a big key.

- Pass rush has been pretty good and it seems, at least in preseason, they are messing around with more blitzing, trying to utilize some of the skill sets of our guys, specifically Jaylon Smith.

The concerns:

- People will try to write this off as just preseason, but I really worry about us being able to push the ball down the field on offense. I also worry that Prescott is going to be that dink and dunker. Last night, there was a play on that first drive where we were in 3rd and 7 and Cincy brought a blitz. Prescott had a bit of time but immediately threw a 3 yard out to Beasley who was essentially covered by two guys and stopped well short of the sticks. There was a lot of that last year as well. It has to change.

- While happy with Heath thus far, S overall is a real concern, especially if that hamstring is a lingering issue for Woods. Hopefully we find out something soon. I still don't have a clue as to what the front office was thinking only having three viable safeties on the roster when there were some decent, not great, options in FA that they could have brought in for cheap to give them a bit of a cushion. If Woods is out or it's an injury that nags him for awhile, we are simply in trouble at S and not many options now to handle it.

- Depth along the OL is concerning and something that sunk us last year. You can't assume we will remain healthy all year long. I won't go crazy yet on Fleming as he's a vet with a track record of competent play, but he's looked blah thus far. Looney is OK but he's really suited for a spot start or maybe a few series, not a longer term plug in as a backup. Green? Ugh. Edwards? He might be the best of the bunch even as a rookie.

- I still have concerns about DT but in fairness, they have not been beat up badly. But I wonder if they can hold up against better running teams.

- Pass catchers............. TE looks average and that might be me being kind. WR? Yes Austin is out but I am not one that thinks he's an elite playmaker at this point in his career. Gallup continues to flash potential but is a rookie. A couple of overhead shots in the first two games showed not a lot of separation from WRs. Maybe that's also due to scheme? On the TD were Prescott scrambled, if you watch the play, 4 receivers ran 4 simple routes, all were easily covered and it was only the breakdown of the play that freed Williams. So I still harbor concerns about this passing O.

- Slot CB. Not much to say there.
 
Not sure why dak is getting so much hate for his pass to hurn on that third down

It's a hot route..thrown right into the blitz..just like he's taught to do..it's not a dink and dunk.. Nor is it a 3 yrd route on third and long..
 
Not sure why dak is getting so much hate for his pass to hurn on that third down

It's a hot route..thrown right into the blitz..just like he's taught to do..it's not a dink and dunk.. Nor is it a 3 yrd route on third and long..

It's not "hate". I wish that word would die a slow death around here.

He didn't really let the play develop IMO. And for it being the vacated zone by the blitzer, there were still two guys standing there who took Hurns down immediately. I think last year, Prescott was quick to go hot route when he sensed a team was blitzing and I thought that play was another example.
 
It's not "hate". I wish that word would die a slow death around here.

He didn't really let the play develop IMO. And for it being the vacated zone by the blitzer, there were still two guys standing there who took Hurns down immediately. I think last year, Prescott was quick to go hot route when he sensed a team was blitzing and I thought that play was another example.

That's what a hot route is..it's not a hot route if you let the play develop
 
The concern about this offense being able to generate chunk plays is legit

But when there is no Austin, Zeke, and Beasley on the field..and it's preseason on top of that..it's quite obvious why the offense looks tame..

Let's see if anything changes when the explosive players get on the field
 
It's not "hate". I wish that word would die a slow death around here.

He didn't really let the play develop IMO. And for it being the vacated zone by the blitzer, there were still two guys standing there who took Hurns down immediately. I think last year, Prescott was quick to go hot route when he sensed a team was blitzing and I thought that play was another example.


The blitzed was coming untouched directly at Dak. I understand what you’re saying overall but that play was a bad example. If he held the ball any longer he gets walloped.
 
The blitzed was coming untouched directly at Dak. I understand what you’re saying overall but that play was a bad example. If he held the ball any longer he gets walloped.

Maybe I am thinking of a totally different play then or confusing it, but I thought the blitzer from the left was picked up.

If I have that wrong, my apologies.
 
first team units have played well. some 2nd teamers have played well, many have not. 3rd teamers have been dominated by 49er and Bengal 3rd teamers. some cuts at certain positions (wr, lb) might be hard, but overall most will be easy. imagine we'll add several players after all teams have made their final cuts. mcclay's nose is buried in evaluations right now.
 
I have no thoughts because they haven't played two games. I don't know what the hell that is but it's not NFL football. It's going through the motions and I don't know what the hell we've got yet.

I will have thoughts after two games after that Giants game to open the season at home following a good road test against a good D team.

Right now, my concern is a 100% Martin and Yosemite for those first two games and a rookie LG needing some more help before he's ready to start. And this is pretend, what happens when those DT's start coming at him hard all game long?

The problem with these pretend games is that we don't know if what we're seeing is real and by the time the second half rolls around, the real tell about a team, it's lunch break at the Home Depot.

The only real positive things I feel I really know about this team after these two pretend games is that Jaylon looks a lot healthier, Dak looks more in control even with Elliott not playing and Gallup looks like he might be a player. I know nothing, and I mean nothing, about what to expect from any of our rookies except Gallup. Haven't seen enough of our 1st pick and too much of our 2nd and after watching these TE's, I think I am really going to be pissed at PHL for jumping us for Dallas Goedert. We got Williams and they got a guy named Dallas, what the hell? The damned Eagles have two starting quality TE's and I am not sure we have one. And this is an offense that needs at least one TE than can separate.

Here's why I hate the pretend season, I am Sergeant Schultz after every damned one of them, I know nothing. And I will not know any more after the next one except 2 of our 3 best OL will not play and that makes me wonder how they'll be for opening day.
 
It's not "hate". I wish that word would die a slow death around here.

He didn't really let the play develop IMO. And for it being the vacated zone by the blitzer, there were still two guys standing there who took Hurns down immediately. I think last year, Prescott was quick to go hot route when he sensed a team was blitzing and I thought that play was another example.

That word will never die. Its guys like you who keep it a well oiled running machine.
 
Starters have looked well and that's encouraging. DL, once thought to be the bane of our existence, looks to be the deepest this team has seen in years.

OL and S depth were flaky before the injuries to Martin and Woods. Showers has probably played his last down for the Cowboys and I don't think he would have made the team anyway, but sucks to see him injured.

As is every season, it's been defined by injuries. If we can stay injury-free for the most part, we'll do alright. If the OL starts dropping, it's game over.

Lastly, Chaz Green is poop.
 
Not sure why dak is getting so much hate for his pass to hurn on that third down

It's a hot route..thrown right into the blitz..just like he's taught to do..it's not a dink and dunk.. Nor is it a 3 yrd route on third and long..

It was also 3rd and 7. NFL teams converted 37% of third and sevens last season.

The lesson? Stay out of third and long.
 
That word will never die. Its guys like you who keep it a well oiled running machine.

Actually it's guys like you who can't handle healthy debate and criticism when discussing our team that keep it alive. That instead of debating and discussing the topics, instead just assume the person making the criticism is a hater.

It's about as shallow thinking as one can see on a sports message board. It takes zero intellect to make that argument.
 
Why are people complaining about Dak?

It was a 16 play, 82 yard, 9 minute drive that ended with a touchdown. Without Zeke on the field.

Are we docking style points?

We punted on the drive I was talking about.
 
Actually it's guys like you who can't handle healthy debate and criticism when discussing our team that keep it alive. That instead of debating and discussing the topics, instead just assume the person making the criticism is a hater.

It's about as shallow thinking as one can see on a sports message board. It takes zero intellect to make that argument.

Besides all of that mumbo jumbo, you just make sure you never leave this place. We need you to continue to lead the insane.
 

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