Thoughts on Flo at RT

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THUMPER;1372911 said:
It was interesting to see Flozell Adams playing RT next to Larry Allen at RG, Gurode at C, and Walter Jones and Steve Hutchinson playing the left side. It was also interesting to note that most of the pressure on the NFC QBs, Romo in particular, came against the left side of the O-Line.

I though Adams did a great job at RT except for a couple of plays in a row where for some reason he just drove inside and completely ignored the DE coming from his right. In both plays the DE made a tackle behind the line. But other than that he pretty much stonewalled anyone he actually came up against. I think a couple of times a guy he was blocking got pressure on Romo from the back side of the pocket but that was because no one was open and Romo was holding the ball a long time.

Flo was a RT in college and was projected there in the NFL but we already had Erik Williams at RT when Flo was drafted and Tuinei had just retired at LT so we put him in at LT and he's been there ever since.

Part of the reason he was projected as a RT was because he is deaf in his right ear, making it difficult for him to hear the snap count when he is to the left of the QB.

I have always wondered why we didn't move him back to RT where he belongs and look to bring in a top LT. I guess because it is easier, and cheaper, to find a RT than a LT. Still, I believe he would be much more effective at RT than at LT and he showed it in the game last night.

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Marc Columbo us our RT (if we resign him) and I don't think he can play LT.

Therefore... Flo is and should remain our LT.
 

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Tex;1372915 said:
There was something wrong with his hearing when he came into the NFL. The Cowboys found out he didnt have as good of an ability to hear from one ear and moved him to the side he could hear the snap count etc... better.

At least that was the story when he was drafted.

Tex

Nope. He's got the hearing problem in his right ear.


cowboyed;1372927 said:
Wasn't he responsible for Suggs crashing through the line resulting in a crushing tackle on Brees. Didn't Brees have to leave the game after that with a dislocated elbow?

Nope, wasn't Flo's man. Suggs sure had a monster game though didn't he?

Hey Catch, still think Suggs is a bust? :D


Future 585;1373179 said:
Why would we worry about moving Flo to RT when Colombo just had a great season there?

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abersonc;1373191 said:
he signed a big contract, what 3 years ago? With the cap increases, his contract is not that huge any more.

I agree. His contract isn't something keeping us from moving him to RT. Flo is one of the better LTs in football. He's not great, but great LTs are rare. Flo is better then Tuinei ever was and no one ever complained about Tui.
 

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what happens to Columbo? he's not much quicker than Flo, so them switching positions wouldn't make much of an impact
 

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The question would be, will Columbo improve even more this season? Columbo's progress from 05 to 06 was huge. The nature of the injury was such that Columbo wasn't really able to get into training till last off season. Now that he has played a season and has another off season to train, could he imporve even that much more? Columbo was a bit soft last year. He was not in top physical condition. When he came out, he was drafted as a LT. Could he imrpove to the point of becoming a LT this year? I don't know. If he could, that would certainly solve a great deal of problems. Adams is a RT at this point in his career, IMO. Would be nice to see both players able to make the transition but no telling if Columbo will be able to do that.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1374615 said:
The question would be, will Columbo improve even more this season?

More than improving his play, I'd look for Columbo to take a bit more of a leadership role for the line - Columbo is the only guy we have on the OL with a nasty streak -- if he can get guys like Gurode and Adams to be a bit more feisty out there, we could really have something.
 

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Before we can even think about moving Flo we need a LT to replace him. McQ has yet to prove he can do that.
 

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I would say if Flo can't fully recover from the knee injury I hope they look to move him to guard. Dallas can’t afford letting outside speed rushers blow past him.
 

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baj1dallas;1374624 said:
Flo is a good LT. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

All well and good. Just let me know you plan on fixing our broken QB once that materializes. Adams is not going to get better IMO. He's going to decline as time goes on.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1374747 said:
All well and good. Just let me know you plan on fixing our broken QB once that materializes. Adams is not going to get better IMO. He's going to decline as time goes on.

He's still young as far as Offensive linemen go. He could play at a top level for another 3-5 years.
 

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Rack;1374756 said:
He's still young as far as Offensive linemen go. He could play at a top level for another 3-5 years.

If he had played at that level for 3 to 5 years at any point in his career, I would feel more confident in his ability to do so now. Unfortunatly, I don't believe he has ever really played that well his entire career. I suppose time will tell but I am not a big fan of Adams. I just hate watching him play and thinking to myself, "What could he have been had he wanted to put the work in to match his ability?"
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1374874 said:
If he had played at that level for 3 to 5 years at any point in his career, I would feel more confident in his ability to do so now.

Quick, during Flo's career, what's the longest period of time he's ever played in the same system?


That would be from 2003 - present. Coincidentally that's also been the best 4 years he's played during his career. See how that works?
 

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Rack;1374911 said:
Quick, during Flo's career, what's the longest period of time he's ever played in the same system?


That would be from 2003 - present. Coincidentally that's also been the best 4 years he's played during his career. See how that works?

Quick, at what point in time has Adams ever been able to move his feet well enough to get to an outside speed rush? At what point in time has Adams ever been consistently good at getting to the second layer of a run block? Quick, at what point in time has Adams ever been able to keep from jumping offsides?

None of those things are scheme related.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1374923 said:
Quick, at what point in time has Adams ever been able to move his feet well enough to get to an outside speed rush? At what point in time has Adams ever been consistently good at getting to the second layer of a run block? Quick, at what point in time has Adams ever been able to keep from jumping offsides?

None of those things are scheme related.

I agree and the problem I have with Adams is inconsistency in his play. At times he has looked good but it seemed to me we never knew which player would show up on game day
 

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They could move Flo to RT and draft Marcus McNeil. I'm sorry, that was a good plan for last season. :D

Off topic, but Gurode had a great block on a TD run. He blasted Casey Hampton to his right allowing the right gaurd to hook Hampton. Gurode then went through the line looking to block anyone coming from the left side. Left a great hole for the running back to score.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1374923 said:
Quick, at what point in time has Adams ever been able to move his feet well enough to get to an outside speed rush? At what point in time has Adams ever been consistently good at getting to the second layer of a run block? Quick, at what point in time has Adams ever been able to keep from jumping offsides?

None of those things are scheme related.

Quick, how many LTs in the NFL never get beat to the outside?


Flo is one of the top 5 LTs in the NFC. Yes, he's not perfect. No, he isn't as good as we all hoped he'd be. But he's still pretty good.
 

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Rack;1374982 said:
Quick, how many LTs in the NFL never get beat to the outside?


Flo is one of the top 5 LTs in the NFC. Yes, he's not perfect. No, he isn't as good as we all hoped he'd be. But he's still pretty good.

I would not rank him as top 5 but that's my opinion I suppose. Be that as it may, I just think it's in the teams best interests and his to move from LT if possible. I think RT is his natural position and I also believe that it would extend his career.
 

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Tex;1372915 said:
There was something wrong with his hearing when he came into the NFL. The Cowboys found out he didnt have as good of an ability to hear from one ear and moved him to the side he could hear the snap count etc... better.

At least that was the story when he was drafted.

Tex

I had heard that he had trouble hearing out of his RIGHT ear. Which would make him a better fit at RT not LT.

That may be the reason for all his false starts he has had throughout his career. I believe it was Madden who would point that out while calling Cowboys games a couple of yeras ago. or was it Troy?
 

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Move Flo to RT. I don't care what he's making, it makes sense. Replace him with OT Leonard Davis of the Cardinals. Columbo moves to backup.
 

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DallasKnight;1375195 said:
Move Flo to RT. I don't care what he's making, it makes sense. Replace him with OT Leonard Davis of the Cardinals. Columbo moves to backup.

This would be the absolute dumbest thing we could do.
 
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