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I can't say enough how happy I am with this offseason. I think the acquisitions of McFadden and Micheal as elite potential running backs, picked up for peanuts is completely ignored by a media focused solely on the fact that we did not re-sign and overpay DeMarco Murray.

I think with this offensive line, any running back who has vision can be successful.

I think Murray was an all around better running back than any one that we have on the team; I don't think anyone would suggest otherwise. That being said, I think we've picked up players who excel at what can be their role on this team to a higher degree than Murray did in those roles.

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I think have a main staple of running backs like Randle, McFadden, and Dunbar all of whom are much faster than Murray and hit the hole with greater purpose than Murray will transform the Cowboys offense on a down by down basis. The constant speed at running back will really show itself through four quarters of play as defenses get warn down by our offensive line. McFadden and Dunbar have the ability to hit home runs on any play, and I think we'll see those plays as defenses get demoralized not just by the offensive line, but the passing game as well.

Thunder
I think there was some legitimate concern as to whether or not the Cowboys would lose the ability to pick up the dirty yards, and I think they brilliantly patched that hole by traded a conditional 7th round draft pick for a running back who may ultimately become our starter, but at the very least is a quality north south runner who can get those yards. I think he has potential to be even more successful at this style of run than even Murray. The Seahawks were mistaken in trading him to Dallas for nothing. Even if he doesn't become the next elite runner for us, he will fit his role very well for us. He was a raw running back coming out of college, but the talent and potential was there. I think we can afford to be more patient than the Seahawks here. They shelled out big money for their top running back, we did not. We have assorted talent and styles on the very cheap. He actually reminds me a lot of Randy Gregory. Would it be nice if he could elevate his game to be an every down player? Sure, but if we just start with asking him to fill a role, something he already does well, that can be the foundation that buys time to work out the rest of it.

I think you have a bunch of running backs on this roster who by yourself you probably wouldn't want to rely on, but collectively you can gamble a bit especially with this offensive line that within this group you'll get pretty good production.

I see a lot of 2007-2008 Giants out of this team as awkward as it is to say that. I think we have the depth on the defensive line and in our running back corp that matches pretty well to what they had in those years.

In 2008 though they didn't repeat their super bowl performance, they were actually a better team that went 12-4. They were 1st in the league in rushing yards with 2518 yards.

These were their running backs:

Brandon Jacobs - 1089
Derrick Ward - 1025
Ahmad Bradshaw - 355

I think our combination of backs can actually be much more successful, and more importantly, I think especially when compared to what we did last year, it will be built to last through the playoffs.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see all four running backs active some weeks, but I largely think that unless he establishes himself as a necessity the odd man out will by Dunbar.

My point in all of this is that people should be excited about our running game, and while I don't think any one running back is going to establish himself as the 20+ carry a game running back, I think you're going to see that our running game will actually be more dynamic than it was last year, and perhaps even overall more successful.
 

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I can't say enough how happy I am with this offseason. I think the acquisitions of McFadden and Micheal as elite potential running backs, picked up for peanuts is completely ignored by a media focused solely on the fact that we did not re-sign and overpay DeMarco Murray.

I think with this offensive line, any running back who has vision can be successful.

I think Murray was an all around better running back than any one that we have on the team; I don't think anyone would suggest otherwise. That being said, I think we've picked up players who excel at what can be their role on this team to a higher degree than Murray did in those roles.

Lightning
I think have a main staple of running backs like Randle, McFadden, and Dunbar all of whom are much faster than Murray and hit the hole with greater purpose than Murray will transform the Cowboys offense on a down by down basis. The constant speed at running back will really show itself through four quarters of play as defenses get warn down by our offensive line. McFadden and Dunbar have the ability to hit home runs on any play, and I think we'll see those plays as defenses get demoralized not just by the offensive line, but the passing game as well.

Thunder
I think there was some legitimate concern as to whether or not the Cowboys would lose the ability to pick up the dirty yards, and I think they brilliantly patched that hole by traded a conditional 7th round draft pick for a running back who may ultimately become our starter, but at the very least is a quality north south runner who can get those yards. I think he has potential to be even more successful at this style of run than even Murray. The Seahawks were mistaken in trading him to Dallas for nothing. Even if he doesn't become the next elite runner for us, he will fit his role very well for us. He was a raw running back coming out of college, but the talent and potential was there. I think we can afford to be more patient than the Seahawks here. They shelled out big money for their top running back, we did not. We have assorted talent and styles on the very cheap. He actually reminds me a lot of Randy Gregory. Would it be nice if he could elevate his game to be an every down player? Sure, but if we just start with asking him to fill a role, something he already does well, that can be the foundation that buys time to work out the rest of it.

I think you have a bunch of running backs on this roster who by yourself you probably wouldn't want to rely on, but collectively you can gamble a bit especially with this offensive line that within this group you'll get pretty good production.

I see a lot of 2007-2008 Giants out of this team as awkward as it is to say that. I think we have the depth on the defensive line and in our running back corp that matches pretty well to what they had in those years.

In 2008 though they didn't repeat their super bowl performance, they were actually a better team that went 12-4. They were 1st in the league in rushing yards with 2518 yards.

These were their running backs:

Brandon Jacobs - 1089
Derrick Ward - 1025
Ahmad Bradshaw - 355

I think our combination of backs can actually be much more successful, and more importantly, I think especially when compared to what we did last year, it will be built to last through the playoffs.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see all four running backs active some weeks, but I largely think that unless he establishes himself as a necessity the odd man out will by Dunbar.

My point in all of this is that people should be excited about our running game, and while I don't think any one running back is going to establish himself as the 20+ carry a game running back, I think you're going to see that our running game will actually be more dynamic than it was last year, and perhaps even overall more successful.

Like that write-up and I think this last pick up of a RB from the Seahawks was great we needed depth.
 

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Very good OP. I am glad you brought up, as well as posted and shown the yards the RBBC that the Giants had.
2 more days to get through to see. Some college football today, then the all day wait tomorrow.
 

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I hope you're right on Michaels and change of scenery is all he needed to get his head on straight. I am going to miss the warrior attitude of Murray and those punishing dirty yards around the ends.
 

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Gotta say I'm relieved that C-Mile was acquired recently, even though it might have helped if it had happened sooner than it was. In any case, if the starters are less productive than what we had hoped they'd be, there would be an alternate available to step in if necessary. Who knows, if C-Mike displays an aptitude to be more of a complete RB than he was in Seattle, he might be slated to contribute far more than what some of us anticipate.
 

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Gotta say I'm relieved that C-Mile was acquired recently, even though it might have helped if it had happened sooner than it was. In any case, if the starters are less productive than what we had hoped they'd be, there would be an alternate available to step in if necessary. Who knows, if C-Mike displays an aptitude to be more of a complete RB than he was in Seattle, he might be slated to contribute far more than what some of us anticipate.

Would have saved a lot of headaches and threads on here too.....:laugh:.....
I am anxious to see what he can do, as I am the rest of our RB's too.
 

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Gotta say I'm relieved that C-Mile was acquired recently, even though it might have helped if it had happened sooner than it was. In any case, if the starters are less productive than what we had hoped they'd be, there would be an alternate available to step in if necessary. Who knows, if C-Mike displays an aptitude to be more of a complete RB than he was in Seattle, he might be slated to contribute far more than what some of us anticipate.

I don't think the timing will really matter, especially given his position on the depth chart. Running back is an easy position to join a new offense, there isn't a whole lot to it. As for his time in Seattle, I mean he really wasn't given much of an opportunity. Obviously can't say what he showed in practice, but I think he certainly wasn't given the opportunity there. The Seahawks drafted Micheal when they already had Turbin (who was a 4th round draft pick) and both of them were playing behind Lynch. Michael was in a very similar situation to Randle in that regard, but clearly the idea is that Micheal has more pedigree than him. I think a better example might be Michael Turner actually.


I hope you're right on Michaels and change of scenery is all he needed to get his head on straight. I am going to miss the warrior attitude of Murray and those punishing dirty yards around the ends.

He has only been in the league a couple years, hasn't been given a shot at all. Not sure anyone can suggest he doesn't have his head on straight.
 

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I think you will see a few different guys put up 20+ in a game this year. Injuries happen, especially small ones. And an advantage of a HBBC is that usually none of the backs really stand out from the others and you arent compelled to ride an injured players because he is such an important part of your offense. I do worry about replacing McFadden is he is injured due to his ability picking up the blitz. I wouldn't dumping Dunbar and adding a HB who does well in blitz pick up in case McFadden gets hurt. Probably a vet like mabey Steven Jackson who isnt a starting quality player anymore but can still play some roles
 

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I can't say enough how happy I am with this offseason. I think the acquisitions of McFadden and Micheal as elite potential running backs, picked up for peanuts is completely ignored by a media focused solely on the fact that we did not re-sign and overpay DeMarco Murray.

I think with this offensive line, any running back who has vision can be successful.

I think Murray was an all around better running back than any one that we have on the team; I don't think anyone would suggest otherwise. That being said, I think we've picked up players who excel at what can be their role on this team to a higher degree than Murray did in those roles.

Lightning
I think have a main staple of running backs like Randle, McFadden, and Dunbar all of whom are much faster than Murray and hit the hole with greater purpose than Murray will transform the Cowboys offense on a down by down basis. The constant speed at running back will really show itself through four quarters of play as defenses get warn down by our offensive line. McFadden and Dunbar have the ability to hit home runs on any play, and I think we'll see those plays as defenses get demoralized not just by the offensive line, but the passing game as well.

Thunder
I think there was some legitimate concern as to whether or not the Cowboys would lose the ability to pick up the dirty yards, and I think they brilliantly patched that hole by traded a conditional 7th round draft pick for a running back who may ultimately become our starter, but at the very least is a quality north south runner who can get those yards. I think he has potential to be even more successful at this style of run than even Murray. The Seahawks were mistaken in trading him to Dallas for nothing. Even if he doesn't become the next elite runner for us, he will fit his role very well for us. He was a raw running back coming out of college, but the talent and potential was there. I think we can afford to be more patient than the Seahawks here. They shelled out big money for their top running back, we did not. We have assorted talent and styles on the very cheap. He actually reminds me a lot of Randy Gregory. Would it be nice if he could elevate his game to be an every down player? Sure, but if we just start with asking him to fill a role, something he already does well, that can be the foundation that buys time to work out the rest of it.

I think you have a bunch of running backs on this roster who by yourself you probably wouldn't want to rely on, but collectively you can gamble a bit especially with this offensive line that within this group you'll get pretty good production.

I see a lot of 2007-2008 Giants out of this team as awkward as it is to say that. I think we have the depth on the defensive line and in our running back corp that matches pretty well to what they had in those years.

In 2008 though they didn't repeat their super bowl performance, they were actually a better team that went 12-4. They were 1st in the league in rushing yards with 2518 yards.

These were their running backs:

Brandon Jacobs - 1089
Derrick Ward - 1025
Ahmad Bradshaw - 355

I think our combination of backs can actually be much more successful, and more importantly, I think especially when compared to what we did last year, it will be built to last through the playoffs.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see all four running backs active some weeks, but I largely think that unless he establishes himself as a necessity the odd man out will by Dunbar.

My point in all of this is that people should be excited about our running game, and while I don't think any one running back is going to establish himself as the 20+ carry a game running back, I think you're going to see that our running game will actually be more dynamic than it was last year, and perhaps even overall more successful.

Completely agree with every point here. As the new england game showed, speed is a great asset. DeAngelo Williams made runs happen simply because he was too fast to bring down. Im very excited to see Randle tomorrow night. Shut all the doubters up.
 

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I can't say enough how happy I am with this offseason. I think the acquisitions of McFadden and Micheal as elite potential running backs, picked up for peanuts is completely ignored by a media focused solely on the fact that we did not re-sign and overpay DeMarco Murray.

I think with this offensive line, any running back who has vision can be successful.

I think Murray was an all around better running back than any one that we have on the team; I don't think anyone would suggest otherwise. That being said, I think we've picked up players who excel at what can be their role on this team to a higher degree than Murray did in those roles.

Lightning
I think have a main staple of running backs like Randle, McFadden, and Dunbar all of whom are much faster than Murray and hit the hole with greater purpose than Murray will transform the Cowboys offense on a down by down basis. The constant speed at running back will really show itself through four quarters of play as defenses get warn down by our offensive line. McFadden and Dunbar have the ability to hit home runs on any play, and I think we'll see those plays as defenses get demoralized not just by the offensive line, but the passing game as well.
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You nailed it.....Cowboys front office has done an excellent job of being patient and developing their roster.
 

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He has only been in the league a couple years, hasn't been given a shot at all. Not sure anyone can suggest he doesn't have his head on straight.[/quote]

Now he has the talent to back it up but not the football acumen. All roads with him lead to look at me... IMO he is not going to be the guy that stays in bounds during the last two minutes of the game like Murray did when we were running out the clock.
He is in my mind a mini Brandon Jacobs in personality not talent. Glad others are seeing traits I do not, it makes me feel better about him.
 

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He has only been in the league a couple years, hasn't been given a shot at all. Not sure anyone can suggest he doesn't have his head on straight.

Now he has the talent to back it up but not the football acumen. All roads with him lead to look at me... IMO he is not going to be the guy that stays in bounds during the last two minutes of the game like Murray did when we were running out the clock.
He is in my mind a mini Brandon Jacobs in personality not talent. Glad others are seeing traits I do not, it makes me feel better about him.[/quote]

Do you have anything to support these statements?
 

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I'm really not big into pointing at what other teams do or have done when it comes to what the Cowboys do. Just because is works for team A doesn't mean it's going to work for team B.

Am I saying the team won't have success? No. I'm saying don't think because the Giants or the Patriots or the Packers do something a certain way that the Cowboys should, too.
 

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Now he has the talent to back it up but not the football acumen. All roads with him lead to look at me... IMO he is not going to be the guy that stays in bounds during the last two minutes of the game like Murray did when we were running out the clock.
He is in my mind a mini Brandon Jacobs in personality not talent. Glad others are seeing traits I do not, it makes me feel better about him.

Do you have anything to support these statements?[/quote]

Sorry to lazy to find the videos of him there are many just google. Fans especially down on him for some lack of effort
oh well I took some time here you go hope not to spoil your fantasy... I only listed three

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/sto...eattle-seahawks-marshawn-lynch-demarco-murray

https://www.reddit.com/r/Seahawks/comments/3jnrzm/the_case_for_christine_michael/

http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/...ent-play-from-running-back-christine-michael/
 

Galian Beast

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Do you have anything to support these statements?

Sorry to lazy to find the videos of him there are many just google. Fans especially down on him for some lack of effort
oh well I took some time here you go hope not to spoil your fantasy... I only listed three

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/sto...eattle-seahawks-marshawn-lynch-demarco-murray

https://www.reddit.com/r/Seahawks/comments/3jnrzm/the_case_for_christine_michael/

http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/seahawks-still-looking-for-consistent-play-from-running-back-christine-michael

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IMO he is not going to be the guy that stays in bounds during the last two minutes of the game like Murray did when we were running out the clock.
 

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I hope you're right on Michaels and change of scenery is all he needed to get his head on straight. I am going to miss the warrior attitude of Murray and those punishing dirty yards around the ends.

I think Michaels will have a great year, he was playing behind too much talent in Seattle. I think he will make the most of this chance and play for a new contract, I'm not sure how long his contract is but it will be up in 2 years or less I guess !!! If he goes all out behind our quality OL the sky is the limit !!!
 
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