Thunder & Lighting

[eromeopolk]

We need a Coach with a big Brain....

 

[RonnieT24]

Pollard ended up on his back at Tampa. And that was just a simple DB blitz on the outside. I truly believe if he were asked to do what zeke does, he;d never make it.

They could redesign the position and INVEST IN NEW O-LINE! (maybe? )

Having said that...the kid is a joy to watch. He's already fast off the handoff then seems to turn it up one more gear. Maybe he just looks lightening fast compared to zeke?

I have seen this before. #2 with obscene numbers. They don't make it two years at #1.

I just LOVE what I saw in the Chargers game. The two of them played great, they got some good blocking. Game plan looked great. A surprise CeeDee run.

Just don't get why we LOOK for stuff to complain about. This...is a beautiful thing.

(Oh but the money blah blah blah)

Pollard also got flagged for "tripping" on one blitz pickup as I recall when a guy ran over him and he stuck a leg out .. He was bailed out because the pass was picked off and thus the penalty was declined.. He's just not good in pass protection which is no problem when you're running it more than you throw it but in games where you have to throw it a lot you can't have a back out there who can't protect. All that said as you say it's fun to watch him run.. and I enjoyed the 1-2 punch in the ground game yesterday. Look forward to seeing more of it.

 

[RonnieT24]

Jim Brown was a FB.

So was Riggins.. People are stoopid..

 

[starfan1]

Pollard ended up on his back at Tampa. And that was just a simple DB blitz on the outside. I truly believe if he were asked to do what zeke does, he;d never make it.

They could redesign the position and INVEST IN NEW O-LINE! (maybe? )

Having said that...the kid is a joy to watch. He's already fast off the handoff then seems to turn it up one more gear. Maybe he just looks lightening fast compared to zeke?

I have seen this before. #2 with obscene numbers. They don't make it two years at #1.

I just LOVE what I saw in the Chargers game. The two of them played great, they got some good blocking. Game plan looked great. A surprise CeeDee run.

Just don't get why we LOOK for stuff to complain about. This...is a beautiful thing.

(Oh but the money blah blah blah)

I'm not clamoring for Pollard to be the number 1. Some are I know but not me. I know you like Zeke alot and he did a masterful job blocking that game. He deserves alot of credit but ive seen Zeke on his back at times as well. I think Pollard would hold up better than you think running between the tackles but I much prefer the the 1, 2 punch and I like how Kellen used them on sunday. As of now though in my opinion the only thing Zeke does better is block but he's not a pushover by any stretch.
I wish his vision was a better better because he aint quick enough to bounce outside like he used to

 

[RaZon]

So was Riggins.. People are stoopid..

Well, when it comes to this FB/RB/Tailback/Halfback thing it's understandable. It's always....Jim Brown the greatest RB, when in reality, no not really, he was a FB, but....screw it no biggie we all get it.

What Pollard is becoming is another Eric Metcalf, Timmy Brown (Eagles RB), a cat who is just as potent as a receiver, yep, Roger Craig fits. Pollard had more receiving yards at Memphis than he did rushing, use that weapon.

As you know once upon a time Fullbacks were the stud runners, see me Avatar, Don Perkins was a FB.

 

[RonnieT24]

Well, when it comes to this FB/RB/Tailback/Halfback thing it's understandable. It's always....Jim Brown the greatest RB, when in reality, no not really, he was a FB, but....screw it no biggie we all get it.

What Pollard is becoming is another Eric Metcalf, Timmy Brown (Eagles RB), a cat who is just as potent as a receiver, yep, Roger Craig fits. Pollard had more receiving yards at Memphis than he did rushing, use that weapon.

Don't you mean Brian Westbrook? LOL.. Just kidding.. I know Brown was also a good dual threat back way back in the day but Westbrook was more productive overall.. Two thousand yard seasons rushing and 4 600+ yard seasons receiving.. Come to think of it, Pollard is much more like Brown than Westbrook in terms of style of play.

 

[RaZon]

Don't you mean Brian Westbrook? LOL.. Just kidding.. I know Brown was also a good dual threat back way back in the day but Westbrook was more productive overall.. Two thousand yard seasons rushing and 4 600+ yard seasons receiving.. Come to think of it, Pollard is much more like Brown than Westbrook in terms of style of play.

Good one with Westbrook, yep perfect. Timmy had 5 KO returns for TO's., and a handful of movies after football, just sayin'

Get ya a cat who has that kick return ability out in space, what LB can handle that? Not talking banging the line, let Zeke WHAM!

 

[RonnieT24]

Good one with Westbrook, yep perfect. Timmy had 5 KO returns for TO's., and a handful of movies after football, just sayin'

Get ya a cat who has that kick return ability out in space, what LB can handle that? Not talking banging the line, let Zeke WHAM!

Yep... the mix that we got yesterday was almost perfect.. Hitting the defense with the hammer Zeke and then stretching it with Pollard is a great combination. People clamoring for Pollard to start miss the point that if you pound him into the line too much he will break down and if you ONLY run him outside DCs will figure it out and adjust accordingly. That's why the two headed monster works.. One guy is north south and the other guy is more shake and bake..

 

[RaZon]

Yep... the mix that we got yesterday was almost perfect.. Hitting the defense with the hammer Zeke and then stretching it with Pollard is a great combination. People clamoring for Pollard to start miss the point that if you pound him into the line too much he will break down and if you ONLY run him outside DCs will figure it out and adjust accordingly. That's why the two headed monster works.. One guy is north south and the other guy is more shake and bake..

Bingo Bango!!!

We need to head off to Dallas bro.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

As long as it’s closer to 5-7 million instead of 15 million.

Cowboys & Zeke need to start thinking about a paycut pretty soon. Maybe not this season or next but after that all bets are off.

And you are the same guy that said this


"NFL workloads are small.

Thinking he can’t “carry the load” is ridiculous by today’s standards."

NFL workloads are small.....LOL......that was a good one!

 

[SDCowboy]

We still have Zeke stans here?

 

[Lutonio]

Zeke is going to get better each week, expect old Zeke around week 5ish.

I hope so. I wasn’t down on him last week when the game script dictated so many passes. The problem is Pollard is passing both the eye test and the stat sheet.
Fingers crossed — I’m pulling for him.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I hope so. I wasn’t down on him last week when the game script dictated so many passes. The problem is Pollard is passing both the eye test and the stat sheet.
Fingers crossed — I’m pulling for him.

Then you aren;t looking with your eyes...just your heart. I am not even sure you know what an "eye test and stat sheet" entails for a true #1 25 carry back.


Oh sure...scatting outside for an end around for 12 yards...pads the stat. The #1 has to run between the tackles where it's tough going. ...but your "eye test and stat sheet" don't see that does it?

Tony got STEAMEFFING ROLLED in tampa. I give him credit...he made the block....but there's no way in HECK...he could sustain that as the lone #1 back.

Again...this is not the "problem" you think it is. It's a blessing try in your heart to enjoy it.

 

[CowboyRoy]

This stupid scenario has played out so many times in Cowboys lore I've lost count. Hambrick over Emmitt, Barber over Julius, Felix over Barber, Murray over Felix, Randle over Murray and now this.. It seems we never learn.. Having TWO good backs is a GOOD thing, not a problem that needs to be solved. I will go to my grave believing that the biggest screwup in 2007 was switching up our running back rotation going into that playoff game against the Giants.. Wade and Co. caved to the noise and started Barber over Julius.. Barber had over 100 yards in the first half and looked great.. But he emptied the tank and got like 20 yards in the second half. We knew going in that Barber was a guy who couldn't handle more than 12-15 carries.. Asking any more of him than that was a mistake. I'm not saying that applies to Pollard.. but people don't understand the MONUMENTAL difference between coming into the game as the number one target of the opposing defense as opposing coming in as the guy the opposing defense spent five minutes on during the week leading up to the game. We need to keep doing what we're doing with these guys.. Ignore the outside noise and play winning football using the combination to the fullest.

Its only stupid for guys like you that keep getting proven wrong. If it wasnt before its become abundantly clear to Moore that Pollard needs a much larger share. Whether you like it or not or admit it or not, its happening.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I hope so. I wasn’t down on him last week when the game script dictated so many passes. The problem is Pollard is passing both the eye test and the stat sheet.
Fingers crossed — I’m pulling for him.

What exactly is it you are pulling for and why would you be pulling for anyone?

 

[SackMaster]

What problem?

What do YOU mean "what problem?"

 

[RonnieT24]

Its only stupid for guys like you that keep getting proven wrong. If it wasnt before its become abundantly clear to Moore that Pollard needs a much larger share. Whether you like it or not or admit it or not, its happening.

Proven wrong? Lemme see was Hambrick better than Emmitt when he was made the starter? Uh .. no.. Was Barber better than Julius when he was made the starter.. Again.. nope.. Was Felix better than Barber when HE was made the starter.. Sssswing and a miss.. Was Murray better than Felix? Finally a success on the fourth try.. Then people clamored for Randle to replace Murray.. I won't even bother to recount how that turned out.. So one out of five times the coaches swapped out the starting back for his backup and it worked.. Every other time it has blown up miserably. Each time the backup was able to come in and make splash plays as the change up for the starter but no sooner did they get the start did the splash plays dry up.. Again the only exception was Murray..

As for "liking or admitting?" You got me completely wrong.. I don't care who makes plays that helps my team win.. I like how they are using Pollard.. always have.. I just don't happen to fall on the side that believes they need to replace Zeke with him.. They have different roles to play and as long as they continue to play them well we will win more than we lose. If we try to make them into something they're not we lose the effectiveness of both.. THAT's what I am against.. If Pollard is ballin like he was yesterday I have no issue with seeing him get more totes.. But just know that when teams are holding him in check and he's got 5 or 6 carries for 8 yards the coaching staff glues him to the bench because it's a dirty yards game which needs somebody to protect Dak, yall need to be okay with that too.. Will you? The fact of the matter is you can't get outside on every NFL team.. Some teams have good DEs and backers and they aint lettin you do that stuff. You know, like Tampa Bay. Some teams are going to push the line of scrimmage back into our face and we're going to need the backs to make something out of nothing a lot of the time. Right now Zeke is better at that than Pollard is.. but nobody is denying that if there is huge hole Pollard is the bigger threat to exploit it for a big play than Zeke is.. Problem is what does he do in games when there are no big holes? We saw a lot of 9 carries for 15 yards type games from him last year, which people are all too willing to forget about. Yes there were games in which he was able to break off some big plays and inflate his average.. But if I recall correctly, Zeke had the higher ypc average in more games than Pollard did.. If the change of pace back averages the same or less ypc in a game than the starter then what good is he? Don't get it twisted.. I want him to play like yesterday every game.. But I don't believe he can or will. The more games like this he has the more attention he will get from opposing DCs and the less of games like this we will see. That's they way it works in the NFL. Good teams stop you from doing what you're good at.. That's when you have to be good at something else.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Proven wrong? Lemme see was Hambrick better than Emmitt when he was made the starter? Uh .. no.. Was Barber better than Julius when he was made the starter.. Again.. nope.. Was Felix better than Barber when HE was made the starter.. Sssswing and a miss.. Was Murray better than Felix? Finally a success on the fourth try.. Then people clamored for Randle to replace Murray.. I won't even bother to recount how that turned out.. So one out of five times the coaches swapped out the starting back for his backup and it worked.. Every other time it has blown up miserably. Each time the backup was able to come in and make splash plays as the change up for the starter but no sooner did they get the start did the splash plays dry up.. Again the only exception was Murray..

As for "liking or admitting?" You got me completely wrong.. I don't care who makes plays that helps my team win.. I like how they are using Pollard.. always have.. I just don't happen to fall on the side that believes they need to replace Zeke with him.. They have different roles to play and as long as they continue to play them well we will win more than we lose. If we try to make them into something they're not we lose the effectiveness of both.. THAT's what I am against.. If Pollard is ballin like he was yesterday I have no issue with seeing him get more totes.. But just know that when teams are holding him in check and he's got 5 or 6 carries for 8 yards the coaching staff glues him to the bench because it's a dirty yards game which needs somebody to protect Dak, yall need to be okay with that too.. Will you? The fact of the matter is you can't get outside on every NFL team.. Some teams have good DEs and backers and they aint lettin you do that stuff. You know, like Tampa Bay. Some teams are going to push the line of scrimmage back into our face and we're going to need the backs to make something out of nothing a lot of the time. Right now Zeke is better at that than Pollard is.. but nobody is denying that if there is huge hole Pollard is the bigger threat to exploit it for a big play than Zeke is.. Problem is what does he do in games when there are no big holes? We saw a lot of 9 carries for 15 yards type games from him last year, which people are all too willing to forget about. Yes there were games in which he was able to break off some big plays and inflate his average.. But if I recall correctly, Zeke had the higher ypc average in more games than Pollard did.. If the change of pace back averages the same or less ypc in a game than the starter then what good is he? Don't get it twisted.. I want him to play like yesterday every game.. But I don't believe he can or will. The more games like this he has the more attention he will get from opposing DCs and the less of games like this we will see. That's they way it works in the NFL. Good teams stop you from doing what you're good at.. That's when you have to be good at something else.

Stop with the paragraphs where you try to change the goal posts.

Pollard is garnering more of the load year after year because he is simply the more dangerous back and makes more out of his carries. You were wrong. I dont expect you to be man enough to admit it. I have been telling you about this for over 2 years now and its all unfolding.

Dont even expect me to just sweep it under the rug. You have been adamant about your love for Zeke and your disrespect for the skills and talents of Pollard. Moore and the rest of the NFL are all beginning to see what I have been telling you and you have denied. Deal with it.

 

[RaZon]

Pollard at Memphis




4.4 guy which is cooking for a RB.

He has to be out there, none of this sharing carries. Stick him in the slot get him out in space. Both backs together.

I know for a fact if they sit Zeke down he will pout and be a distraction, get both out there.

 

[RonnieT24]

Stop with the paragraphs where you try to change the goal posts.

Pollard is garnering more of the load year after year because he is simply the more dangerous back and makes more out of his carries. You were wrong. I dont expect you to be man enough to admit it. I have been telling you about this for over 2 years now and its all unfolding.

Dont even expect me to just sweep it under the rug. You have been adamant about your love for Zeke and your disrespect for the skills and talents of Pollard. Moore and the rest of the NFL are all beginning to see what I have been telling you and you have denied. Deal with it.

LMAO.. You are hilarious.. Pollard has one good game and now you're Nostradamus.. I have stated OVER AND OVER that the offense Moore is running is better suited for Pollard than it is for Zeke.. In fact I have said repeatedly that if we're going to run this style of offense we should trade Zeke and start Pollard. Your unwillingness to acknowledge that I've said this over and over won't change that reality.

By the way .. were you also "right" in the 7 or 8 games last year that Pollard averaged 3 yards per carry or less? Asking for a friend..