Tim Brown crushing Callahan

[arglebargle]

You could always spin it as one of Al Davis's undisciplined teams didn't like Callahan. Might not be such a bad thing.

There were certainly a number of Bucs players who were not complimentary of Gruden as well.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Really, former player's opinions mean very little to me. I'm sure a lot of players absolutely loved playing for Barry Switzer and Jerry Glanville.

 

[rathalarge]

Basically very smart guy didnt translate well in his experience. Said he quit on the Raiders as an assistant and players wanted him gone. Destroyed what Gruden built in six months as HC. Coudnt understand why Jets O tanked with him as an assistant.

Realistcally, the Raiders were an old team, so I gotta believe that played a part in the 4-12 season.

 

[sonnyboy]

Uh, they went to the Super Bowl with him as head coach in his first year, Tim.








YR

Exactly and I'll bet you he blames him for that missed chance at a ring.

 

[Doomsday101]

Personally I don't care what Brown has to say, Callahan has not been hired to be the HC and Garrett liked him enough to bring in to be part of his staff. What ever problem Brown has is his problem. Right now this is still Garrett team and his staff, how it goes depends on Garrett

 

[InmanRoshi]

Yep and 4-12 the next year. Hopefully somebody posts that part of the interview.

That happens when Rich Gannon goes down with a season ending injury and you have to start Rick Mirer for 9 games.

Really, I don't put much weight into what former players say. I'm sure a lot of former players loved playing for Jerry Glanville and Barry Switzer. I'm mostly concerned with end results. Callahan was put in a bad situation coaching a team of big ego'd veterans like Brown, Jerry Rice, Romanowski, Rod Woodson who needed a scapegoat to take the blame for their window of opportunity closing. On the other hand, nothing precludes Callahan from being another Bruce Coslett here either. There's enough ties and points of references between Skip Peete (who was the RB coach on those Oakland teams), Jason Garrett/Gruden and the Ryan Brothers that the Cowboys should have a good idea of who he is and what they're getting into.

 

[gimmesix]

There's enough ties and points of references between Skip Peete (who was the RB coach on those Oakland teams), Jason Garrett/Gruden and the Ryan Brothers that the Cowboys should have a good idea of who he is and what they're getting into.

I think that's the key. Garrett has a good idea what he is getting with this hiring, so I don't really have concerns.

Now, if it had been Jerry considering Callahan for head coach, I'd have a lot of concerns.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Yep, heard several times when we hired him that most of the players at Oakland absolutely hated his guts. Very arrogant, supposedly.

Good enough for the Nebraska AD to hire him, though.

But I do think he'll be a better OL coach than Houck.

You know, with all the talk about leadership - well, even leaders need players who can be led. This kind of players embrace the hard-nose coaching and work towards that Champoinsghip. Conversely, the comapliners comaplin and don't ever win one. So ask yourself, when was the lat time Tim Brown won a Championship? Yet here he is complaining - again.

 

[Goku]

Tim Brown has always had a big mouth for some reason. It's like he feels jaded because he played on lousy teams almost his entire career.

As for Callahan I've never heard anything but great things about him as a Oline coach. He is a technical junkie. These young guys can learn a lot from him. Also as the HC of Nebraska, following a legend, and then switching from the triple option, to the WC offense was like trying to stick a square peg into a round whole. That would take years to accomplish with recruiting, etc.

I love the hire, and could care less about Timmy Brown. He still jaded because Aikman didn't want him when Jerry asked if wanted to go get him!

seriously? tim brown has always been a class act. on the other hand, callahan has had relationship issues with players at almost every team he's coached. they hated his guts by the time he was done in nebraska. i was reserved in my reaction to the hire b/c of his past problems, and yes this is relevant regardless if he is the head coach or an assistant. with today's sensitive athlete, relationship building is extremely important. you can be great technically, but it won't translate if you are an ***. hopefully callahan has matured since those days.

 

[cbow44]

he also threw the media guy thats presenting him for Hall of Fame consideration under the bus too.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Perhaps Tim Brown could've started his critique by saying "Even though I've never won a Championship, let me tell you about the kind of coaching needed to win one..."

 

[dadymat]

just sour grapes.....alot of the veterans got pissy with him his last year with Raiders cause he called them out for playing dumb...

his quote "the dumbest team in America in terms of playing the game."

 

[Aven8]

seriously? tim brown has always been a class act. on the other hand, callahan has had relationship issues with players at almost every team he's coached. they hated his guts by the time he was done in nebraska. i was reserved in my reaction to the hire b/c of his past problems, and yes this is relevant regardless if he is the head coach or an assistant. with today's sensitive athlete, relationship building is extremely important. you can be great technically, but it won't translate if you are an ***. hopefully callahan has matured since those days.

Yes I am. He's always I had big mouth and talks bad about teammates, etc.

I hated my HC in HS and College. I did respect them however. That's the difference. They were there to make us all better and win, not coddle us, and be our friends. Wade was an enabler and looked how that turned out. Men be men, etc. Players need direction, and leadership. They may never say it, but thats what they want, to be lead.

 

[Goku]

Yes I am. He's always I had big mouth and talks bad about teammates, etc.

I hated my HC in HS and College. I did respect them however. That's the difference. They were there to make us all better and win, not coddle us, and be our friends. Wade was an enabler and looked how that turned out. Men be men, etc. Players need direction, and leadership. They may never say it, but thats what they want, to be lead.

there is a big difference btw what you are describing and what callahan has been in the past. there is a difference btw a tough hard nose coach and an arrogant hard-headed coach. i have no problem with a tough disciplinarian coming here to coach the oline. we need that. but callahan has crossed the line in the past by being arrogant, disrespectful, and condescending at times. he needs to leave that side of him behind.

 

[dadymat]

seriously? tim brown has always been a class act. on the other hand, callahan has had relationship issues with players at almost every team he's coached. they hated his guts by the time he was done in nebraska. i was reserved in my reaction to the hire b/c of his past problems, and yes this is relevant regardless if he is the head coach or an assistant. with today's sensitive athlete, relationship building is extremely important. you can be great technically, but it won't translate if you are an ***. hopefully callahan has matured since those days.

can you tell us of some exact events or are you just gonna keep talkin out your *** ?

 

[Vertigo_17]

Perhaps Tim Brown could've started his critique by saying "Even though I've never won a Championship, let me tell you about the kind of coaching needed to win one..."

Lol

 

[Goku]

can you tell us of some exact events or are you just gonna keep talkin out your *** ?

talking out of my ***? are you deaf to anything outside of the cowboys? it's common knowledge that callahan has rubbed a lot of people the wrong way in his career. google is your friend, do your own research.

 

[dadymat]

talking out of my ***? are you deaf to anything outside of the cowboys? it's common knowledge that callahan has rubbed a lot of people the wrong way in his career. google is your friend, do your own research.

thats about what i thought.....you have no idea what your screaming about......other than the Raiders vets... what players have come out against him?

 

[Goku]

thats about what i thought.....you have no idea what your screaming about......other than the Raiders vets... what players have come out against him?

still can't figure out how to use google..i'll give you a clue since your useless on your own....do some research on callahan's time at nebraska.

it's funny to me you think you can call someone out when it's obvious your scope of sports knowledge is limited to the Boys.

 

[BigWillie]

Tim Brown has hard feelings towards Callahan because of the fact Callahan tried to get the majority of the old timers on the Raiders released. Tim Brown was quoted in an article back during that season that Callahan was, "messing with my money."

Callahan was the guy who pointed out the obvious - that Raiders team was done and the old guys needed to get out of the way. Instead of realizing that they were hurting the team with their bloated contracts and their diminishing skills, they revolted and pointed the finger at Callahan.

It's kinda funny because a big portion of those guys were still cut/released that offseason.