Tim Brown on The Ticket, re: Romo

[theebs]

Hopefully Scandrick and Jenkins are the upgrades at CB we need, then.

It'd be interesting to read what GMs think about guys like Ratliff and Newman and a few others many of us deem elite.

there is no doubt about ratliff. He can excel at two positions.

Newman is what he has always been solid and steady. Never spectacular and never terrible.

nothing wrong with newman.

Now hamlin and williams. That is a diffferent conversation.

 

[Sarge]

I recall a time not long ago when people (including myself) were saying Peyton Manning simply can't win a big game. He ultimately did - just took some time.

Hopefully, we will see the same results here. It's not like Romo has been starting for 6 years.

 

[burmafrd]

Newman when healthy can shut down any WR he has ever faced. Of whom else can that be said? Ware is the best Defensive Player in the NFL, or at the very least in the top 5. Ratlif led all DTs in sacks and caused all sorts of havoc. There are 3 top players right there. How many other Defensese have three players in the top 5 or better at their position? And James and Hamlin and the rest of the guys are not exactly chopped liver- at least from a talent point of view. So Brown is full of it when he says we do not have that much talent. Now as regards tactics and quality of play and mistakes we stank it up way too often - no arguement. BUT at the same time the D came on at the end of the year= definitly improved. Though once again critical errors were made.

 

[Velvet Jones]

Show me these 850 pounders!

He clearly said 3x as big.. not as heavy. So you should be looking for the 18 footers.

 

[Clove]

If Romo wants to be successful and healthy, Garrett and the offensive line can help him.

The offensive line by sustaining blocks, and just blocking well.
Garrett by not calling so many play actions, and deep routes.

 

[Velvet Jones]

Newman when healthy can shut down any WR he has ever faced. Of whom else can that be said? Ware is the best Defensive Player in the NFL, or at the very least in the top 5. Ratlif led all DTs in sacks and caused all sorts of havoc. There are 3 top players right there. How many other Defensese have three players in the top 5 or better at their position? And James and Hamlin and the rest of the guys are not exactly chopped liver- at least from a talent point of view. So Brown is full of it when he says we do not have that much talent. Now as regards tactics and quality of play and mistakes we stank it up way too often - no arguement. BUT at the same time the D came on at the end of the year= definitly improved. Though once again critical errors were made.

I'll take 11 players in the top 20 any time over 3 players in the top 5.

 

[sago1]

Count me as one who never believed Romo's hand was completely healed. Then when you threw in his back injury in the Giant game you end up with a QB who simply wasn't healthy through most of the season. Our OL needs to play a heck of a lot better then they did in 08 both in protecting Romo & opening up holes in the running game. I'm also not sure how much the play of our younger RBs helped or hurt Romo's protection.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Count me as one who never believed Romo's hand was completely healed. Then when you threw in his back injury in the Giant game you end up with a QB who simply wasn't healthy through most of the season. Our OL needs to play a heck of a lot better then they did in 08 both in protecting Romo & opening up holes in the running game. I'm also not sure how much the play of our younger RBs helped or hurt Romo's protection.

I wont argue this because we dont know for sure.

It was described more than once as an injury that was that bad...especially when it was healing because it was a fracture and not a break. So who knows.

It just makes me wonder... why did he seem to throw and play better with the split?

 

[Doomsday101]

No audio to link, no recap to give, just something that stuck out. Tim Brown was on with BaD radio and was talking about Romo, and commented that he felt that because Romo isn't as big as some other QBs, that the hits he takes early really take their toll on him late in the season. Said QBs like Aikman can survive better because of their size. Watching Romo, he thinks his play really suffers because he just doesn't have the size to take a season of pounding, and he thinks that was a big factor in Romo's reduced performance late in the season.

Just a little chum for the water.

Defenders in the backfield blasting Romo did not help either. :laugh2: Protect your QB keep him standing and Romo has the talent and skill to lead this team. Allow jail breaks into the back field and Romo like any QB in the NFL is going to struggle. I don't see this as that complicated, we isolate on the QB but the QB has to have help.

 

[tyke1doe]

It is plausible that Romo can't take hits like an Aikman or Bledsoe, yes. But is Romo big enough to win? Sure, without a doubt.

If you don't like Montana, then Kurt Warner is 6-2, 218. Tony Romo is 6-2, 224. How's Warner done?

You don't want your QB getting hit all the time, no matter how big he is. That's why most OCs get that you have to run the ball enough to limit his exposure and call plays that get the ball out of his hands quickly.

Actually, Kurt Warner took several years to recover from recurring injuries because he was getting hit so much.

But I agree with you. You must protect the quarterback through either the offensive line or having the quarterback release the ball faster.

BTW, how big is Drew Brees?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

what hasnt been added from that tim brown conversation is that Brown said what many of us said all summer.

The talent on the team is way overated. He said outside of ware he doesnt see anything that good on defense, he then added james had a great season. How he minimizes ratliff I have no idea.

He said we have nothing in the secondary worth keeping and we could upgrade at every position. He said the same about spears and canty, called them nice players but nothing special.

He then blamed the cowboys hype machine for over rating the talent on the team overall and when expectations are that high no one can achieve it, let alone a team with average talent.

There's no doubt that people overrate the talent here, especially on defense. Our D-linemen other than Ratliff this year have been JAGs. Bradie is no more than pretty good. We've had problems at the Mo linebacker. Henry is good sometimes, but average at others and hurt a lot. We know Roy is a shell of what he used to be.

I can't blame the team for claiming the talent is so great, though. That comes from the media -- especially the local media that loves to trump up all the "#1 picks" so they can then write articles on how the team is underachieving -- and those Pro Bowls last year, which was a product of winning games.

 

[Wrangler87]

No audio to link, no recap to give, just something that stuck out. Tim Brown was on with BaD radio and was talking about Romo, and commented that he felt that because Romo isn't as big as some other QBs, that the hits he takes early really take their toll on him late in the season. Said QBs like Aikman can survive better because of their size. Watching Romo, he thinks his play really suffers because he just doesn't have the size to take a season of pounding, and he thinks that was a big factor in Romo's reduced performance late in the season.

Just a little chum for the water.

He's basically the same size as McNabb. 6'2 220 range.

For the love of God, the guy was hurt last season. He played three games with a splint on his throwing hand. He had a back injury. Give the guy a break already. Most other QB's would not have even attempted to play with those injuries. In spite of all of that, he was the fourth highest rated passer in the NFC, and only two spots down from Peyton Manning in the NFL rankings. Manning was the MVP.

Give it up already.

 

[Doomsday101]

He's basically the same size as McNabb. 6'2 220 range.

For the love of God, the guy was hurt last season. He played three games with a splint on his throwing hand. He had a back injury. Give the guy a break already. Most other QB's would not have even attempted to play with those injuries. In spite of all of that, he was the fourth highest rated passer in the NFC, and only two spots down from Peyton Manning in the NFL rankings. Manning was the MVP.

Give it up already.

I agree with you but this barbeque is going to last until the Cowboys win in the post season

 

[lurkercowboy]

Show me these 850 pounders!

That would be two Nate Newtons.

 

[DuaneThomas71]

Size has absolutely nothing to do with how well one can withstand punishment. Romo is not hurting his finger every year because he's small. He's didn't hurt his back because he's small. Small people are not more susceptible to injury. Injury-prone individuals are.

 

[RoadRunner]

Aikman's career was shortened due to too many hits on the noggin. I don't think there is a QB alive that can take a beating all year, or over a long career. A lot of it is just getting lucky to avoid major injuries.