Tim Green, old vets, Greg Ellis and TO

[dwmyers]

Tim Green is a lawyer, a media personality, and at one time was an undersized lineman for the Atlanta Falcons. One time in a used book store I was reading one of his nonfiction works, the title I no longer remember. But one of the chapters I do remember fairly well. It was talking about veterans and their attitudes towards spring training.

Tim says that vets are in the best shape of their lives at the start of spring training and in the worst shape of their lives at the end of it. The contact, the two a days simply wear them down. So it's not uncommon for a veteran to stage a holdout, ask for more money, generally be an annoyance until spring training ends. Then, the holdout ends, the vet shows up and he goes about his job without all the aches and pains of spring training.

What we have here is Greg Ellis. He's a "good guy" but he's a long time vet. He may be nicked up, he may not be, but there is this new guy in town (a certain TO) who showed up and he's NOT ATTENDING "voluntary" workouts. The old vet sees the rules change for different people. Maybe he doesn't like voluntary workouts either. How do you avoid them?

1) work out at home (or maybe not, maybe you think a body shaped by Dunkin' Donuts is good enough for Parcells, but it probably won't make it, really).

2) Complain about money.

When you're tired of staying home, end the holdout and show.

I'm not saying this is happening. I am saying this is possible.

David.

 

[Alexander]

Tim Green is a lawyer, a media personality, and at one time was an undersized lineman for the Atlanta Falcons. One time in a used book store I was reading one of his nonfiction works, the title I no longer remember. But one of the chapters I do remember fairly well. It was talking about veterans and their attitudes towards spring training.

Tim says that vets are in the best shape of their lives at the start of spring training and in the worst shape of their lives at the end of it. The contact, the two a days simply wear them down. So it's not uncommon for a veteran to stage a holdout, ask for more money, generally be an annoyance until spring training ends. Then, the holdout ends, the vet shows up and he goes about his job without all the aches and pains of spring training.

What we have here is Greg Ellis. He's a "good guy" but he's a long time vet. He may be nicked up, he may not be, but there is this new guy in town (a certain TO) who showed up and he's NOT ATTENDING "voluntary" workouts. The old vet sees the rules change for different people. Maybe he doesn't like voluntary workouts either. How do you avoid them?

1) work out at home (or maybe not, maybe you think a body shaped by Dunkin' Donuts is good enough for Parcells, but it probably won't make it, really).

2) Complain about money.

When you're tired of staying home, end the holdout and show.

I'm not saying this is happening. I am saying this is possible.

David.

I think the way it has escalated into the press, this isn't anything like that.

If so, Ellis would be quiet and you might hear about him not being around, but that's it. You wouldn't hear of "commitments" and the level of detail that we have.

Veterans like Shockey and so on skip the workouts, workout on their own, pay the fines or whatever.

They don't whine about money and their roles in the media.

 

[burmafrd]

Ellis either wants more money or to be traded/let go. Seems pretty obvious.

 

[Alexander]

Ellis either wants more money or to be traded/let go. Seems pretty obvious.

I guess it makes some people feel better to imagine like he isn't doing what he's doing.

And you better change the "more money" to "more money upfront" before someone jumps your case.

 

[tyke1doe]

Tim Green is a lawyer, a media personality, and at one time was an undersized lineman for the Atlanta Falcons. One time in a used book store I was reading one of his nonfiction works, the title I no longer remember. But one of the chapters I do remember fairly well. It was talking about veterans and their attitudes towards spring training.

Tim says that vets are in the best shape of their lives at the start of spring training and in the worst shape of their lives at the end of it. The contact, the two a days simply wear them down. So it's not uncommon for a veteran to stage a holdout, ask for more money, generally be an annoyance until spring training ends. Then, the holdout ends, the vet shows up and he goes about his job without all the aches and pains of spring training.

What we have here is Greg Ellis. He's a "good guy" but he's a long time vet. He may be nicked up, he may not be, but there is this new guy in town (a certain TO) who showed up and he's NOT ATTENDING "voluntary" workouts. The old vet sees the rules change for different people. Maybe he doesn't like voluntary workouts either. How do you avoid them?

1) work out at home (or maybe not, maybe you think a body shaped by Dunkin' Donuts is good enough for Parcells, but it probably won't make it, really).

2) Complain about money.

When you're tired of staying home, end the holdout and show.

I'm not saying this is happening. I am saying this is possible.

David.

Thanks for the fresh perspective from someone who reads and can make possible connect-the-dot connections.