Time to be real at Wr....

[Chocolate Lab]

Has any Wr in the league won anything other than, Patriots WR, Hines Ward and Randle EL, actually their are at least 200 Wrs in the league and only about 20 has rings so what's ur point......Marvin Harrison, Steve Smith, Moss, TO, Fitzgerald, all the Pro Bowl Recievers have never won a bowl so that Theory is out the Window

No, you help prove my point. WRs get all the glitz and glam and ESPN hype, but they don't contribute that much to Super Bowl winning teams.

If you have a good QB, which I believe we now have, you can win plenty with solid, competent, non-superstar players at WR.

 

[Concord]

I'm not going anywhere guys!:devil:

 

[TRUTH87]

Haven't you heard?

 

[JJB500]

No, you help prove my point. WRs get all the glitz and glam and ESPN hype, but they don't contribute that much to Super Bowl winning teams.

If you have a good QB, which I believe we now have, you can win plenty with solid, competent, non-superstar players at WR.

Yeah like Jerry Rice and Michael Irvin, they didn't help at all!

 

[alancdc]

Yeah like Jerry Rice and Michael Irvin, they didn't help at all!

Out of the tripplets I'm not sure that 88 wasn't the most important?

 

[Rampage]

Out of the tripplets I'm not sure that 88 wasn't the most important?

he was the least important

 

[Shotgun Dave]

Glenn is a #1 receiver and probably the best, most consistent guy we have.

Crayton has the best QB rating in the NFL when thrown to, and is a first down catching machine.

Hurd and Austin have both shown flashes.

We have Witten.

Fasano can move the chains.

We can utilize Jones and Barber more in the passing game.

We do not, AND DID NOT, need TO.

But I would draft a WR to groom as Glenn's eventual replacement and for depth.

The most concise and accurate post I have read in weeks.

 

[2much2soon]

No, you help prove my point. WRs get all the glitz and glam and ESPN hype, but they don't contribute that much to Super Bowl winning teams.

If you have a good QB, which I believe we now have, you can win plenty with solid, competent, non-superstar players at WR.

If you go back and look at the list of teams that have won Super Bowls, way more often than not there is a pro bowl quality wide receiver associated with them.
There are a few teams that didn't have a high quality WR on them but they are the execption and made up for it by having an off the chart defense or RB.
Just look from the '80s on to current times. Jerry Rice, Art Monk, Michael Irvin, Rod Smith, Isaac Bruce. They played for teams that accounted for a lot of SB victories.

 

[blindzebra]

Out this group who gets doubled? Crayton goes up against nickel and dime back all year, what happens when he goes against a #1 or 2 CB all game, Who's the threat now on O, Glenn? U have to be Kidding.

come on We don't use TO right Period.... he drops balls but so does every WR in the league, plus he get doubled all game almost, and no Crayton can not replace him otherwise we don't bring TO in....

TO hasn't been doubled that much, I'd say less than 50% of the time, Glenn put up numbers last year too, does that mean Key is as good as TO?

Obviously, you didn't get the point...not a surprise...we have weapons, many weapons, the need for a TO replacement isn't there. Crayton doesn't have to catch 80 balls for 12 TDs, he just needs to catch more than his 30 and 3 he's had this year.

Take that 80 and 12 and divide it up between Glenn, Crayton, Hurd, Austin, Witten, Fasano, Jones, Barber, Polite and Hoyte. 8 more catches apiece over 16 games. Finding less than a TD a game between 10 receivers.

Not a problem when you have a QB that spreads the ball around and finds the open guy.

 

[JJB500]

he was the least important

It really showed in 96, the team didn't miss a beat when he was suspended for 5 games!

 

[Shotgun Dave]

Why doesn't it take a 1st to move up, unless u move up one spot, otherwise it will cost a first....

"Factually inaccurate" is the best that can be said of this. History is FILLED with examples of how moving up in the first does not necessarily cost a first. Beyond that, history is filled with examples of WR's that were AWESOME that were NOT drafted in the first round. One of the best WR's in the league this year was drafted three spots ahead of Mr. Irrelevant.

Bottom line - we don't have to waste current or future draft picks to move up in the first round to get TO's replacement. If we want one, very talented WR's will be available in the late first.

 

[Shotgun Dave]

Yeah like Jerry Rice and Michael Irvin, they didn't help at all!

There are some really ridicuous posts going on today.

One can pick up a very good text on logic for very little money if one wasinterested in being logical.

Otherwise, post away!

 

[BigDFan5]

Why doesn't it take a 1st to move up, unless u move up one spot, otherwise it will cost a first....

You havent ever watched or payed attention to the draft have you?

 

[Shotgun Dave]

If you go back and look at the list of teams that have won Super Bowls, way more often than not there is a pro bowl quality wide receiver associated with them.
There are a few teams that didn't have a high quality WR on them but they are the execption and made up for it by having an off the chart defense or RB.
Just look from the '80s on to current times. Jerry Rice, Art Monk, Michael Irvin, Rod Smith, Isaac Bruce. They played for teams that accounted for a lot of SB victories.

OK. Let's examine the facts. Just how many teams among the last 5 or 6 Super Bowl winners had a WR go to the Pro Bowl that year?

Hmmmm, could it beZERO?

I could have kept going but the point ought to be evident enough. Can we put that argument to bed yet, please?

 

[CaptainQuint]

Who do the Eagles have at WR?

Or the Chargers? Or the Bears?

Eagles have Stallworth and Brown, and the Saints could regret giving up Donte for the 2nd round choice, or Donte could drop the ball, which happened to the Saints.
The Bears have Moosen and Berian, and Grossman seemed to have some of his worst problems when Berian was out(although Berian was in the Ariizona game).
Chargers have Vincent Jackson, and not much else right now.
Jackson is really good. Great blocker and good receiver.
Eric Parker has an unspecified neck injury, McCardell has unspecified injuries and lost both front teeth on one collision last week, when Rivers was 10 for 30 and had no targets, except Jackson.
As good as the Chargers have been, they're in trouble if Jackson is their only WR threat.
They would love to have Crayton right now.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

WR is just about the least important component of a Super Bowl-winning team.

Really? Just trying to visualize one Cowboy Super Bowl winner without unimportant receivers. Oh, well.

And before we start talking Super Bowl (this or any year) maybe we should first beat the . . . Detroit Lions.

 

[Westcoasthabsfan]

Defence Defence Defence

 

[Q_the_man]

No, you help prove my point. WRs get all the glitz and glam and ESPN hype, but they don't contribute that much to Super Bowl winning teams.

If you have a good QB, which I believe we now have, you can win plenty with solid, competent, non-superstar players at WR.

What did Micheal Irvin and Jerry Rice do for their teams

 

[2much2soon]

OK. Let's examine the facts. Just how many teams among the last 5 or 6 Super Bowl winners had a WR go to the Pro Bowl that year?

Hmmmm, could it beZERO?

I could have kept going but the point ought to be evident enough. Can we put that argument to bed yet, please?

So you think since one anomalous team (NE) skewed the results for a few years that proves your point? Sure thing, buddy. Go ahead and throw out the results for the last 40 years of Super Bowls.
By the way, Seattle gave up a 1st round draft pick to get one of NE's receivers. That must mean he isn't a top quality WR.

 

[Shotgun Dave]

What did Micheal Irvin and Jerry Rice do for their teams

What have any Hall of Fame receivers done for their teams? A lot, to be sure, but a team doesn't necessarily HAVE to have a Hall of Fame WR to win the Super Bowl.

And just as the last 5 or 6 Super Bowl champs had no Pro-Bowlers at WR, Dallas could get there WITHOUT a certain somebody.

And I won't enumerate the list (except to say that a new Def. Coordinator would be nice).