To add a little fuel to the 49ers as a possible trade partner

[RS12]

Pure speculation, never the less:

In Peter King’s most recent article, he lets us know Jim Harbaugh has been at “a high number of receiver workouts” before this year’s draft. King cites an unnamed NFL G.M., who says this: ‘This isn’t about 2013 for the Niners. Harbaugh knows he’ll be there for a while. They just lost Randy Moss, and Anquan Boldin is there for a year, and they don’t know about A.J. Jenkins. Receiver’s very logical for them there.”

The 49ers have met with West Virginia’s Tavon Austin, Cal’s Keenan Allen, Louisiana Tech’s Quinton Patton and USC’s Robert Woods according to Walterfootball.

King speculates Tennessee’s Cordarrelle Patterson would fit well with the 49ers. To draft him, the 49ers probably would have to trade up to the 17th or 18th pick.

Do you think the 49ers will draft a wide receiver in the first round two years in a row? Why or why not?

http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/2013...s-been-at-a-high-number-of-receiver-workouts/

 

[RS12]

Austin or Patterson makes sense as they have been matching Seattle move for move. They have yet to match Harvin.

 

[Sb or Bust]

What would it take for niners to move up to 18?

 

[Questfor6]

What would it take for niners to move up to 18?

31, 61 and a 4th or 5th

 

[JoeyBoy718]

What would it take for niners to move up to 18?

I think people are expecting to get their 31 and 34. That's not gonna happen. It's better to stay put at 18.

 

[Picksix]

I think people are expecting to get their 31 and 34. That's not gonna happen. It's better to stay put at 18.

Perhaps. Depends on who's still there. If nobody they really like is left, they may have the next couple of rounds ranked close together, so getting another pick or two in that area may produce a better overall yield.

 

[AmishCowboy]

Maybe they would want to trade up for Patterson, because Austin won't be there

 

[DFWJC]

I think people are expecting to get their 31 and 34. That's not gonna happen. It's better to stay put at 18.

No...31 and 61
Not 31 and 34, that would be in a trade pkg including both 18 and 47

 

[ROUSH8692]

Boldin?

 

[visionary]

No...31 and 61
Not 31 and 34, that would be in a trade pkg including both 18 and 47

trading back to 31 is very far down
i would need to get 61 and a 4th rounder (in addition to 31)

would rather trade down to 23-24

 

[TheRomoSexual]

I think people are expecting to get their 31 and 34. That's not gonna happen. It's better to stay put at 18.

That is not at all what people are expecting.

31 and 34 for 18 and 80 is solid value for us. 31 and 61 for 18 is darn near equal value. Add in a few lower round picks (49ers have a ton) to either equation.

 

[DFWJC]

trading back to 31 is very far down
i would need to get 61 and a 4th rounder (in addition to 31)

would rather trade down to 23-24

The 4th would be out of the question but you might get a 6th or 7th.
The way trades have been going the last two years, you might not even get the 6th or 7th. The teams trading up have been paying a little less on the value charts. Nothing huge, but if any team has been payng less on the charts it's been the team moving up.

Anyway, I agree. Trading down to 31 is a lot.
The only way I do that is there is a huge gap in our board that says whatever we would get at 24 would be about the same as at 31. That's usually not the case, but sometimes it is. You'd have to see who was gone and how our board looked to know the answer.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

The only way I'm doing it is if we flop first and seconds and they throw in a forth. If not I'll sit and pick their wr if he is BPA.

 

[DFWJC]

The only way I'm doing it is if we flop first and seconds and they throw in a forth. If not I'll sit and pick their wr if he is BPA.

That's what you'd be doing then.

They could get their trade from NY right after us for cheaper and still get one of those two WRs.
better yet, they could trade with Chicago if they were certain NY would not take a WR--and if they re-sign Cruz they for sure will not.

Anyway, it would be entertaining.

 

[visionary]

The 4th would be out of the question but you might get a 6th or 7th.
The way trades have been going the last two years, you might not even get the 6th or 7th. The teams trading up have been paying a little less on the value charts. Nothing huge, but if any team has been payng less on the charts it's been the team moving up.

Anyway, I agree. Trading down to 31 is a lot.
The only way I do that is there is a huge gap in our board that says whatever we would get at 24 would be about the same as at 31. That's usually not the case, but sometimes it is. You'd have to see who was gone and how our board looked to know the answer.

i agree that we have to know how our draft board looks to know the answer

from my perspective, trading down that far in rd 1 means that it is very likely all of our targets in rd 1 will be gone by the time we pick, so we are picking a rd 2 talent at the bottom of rd 1...that is a lot to give up IMO

conversely the team trading up will be getting exactly who they want

so we better be getting premium value otherwise dont trade down and pick someone you are convinced has rd 1 talent

 

[DFWJC]

i agree that we have to know how our draft board looks to know the answer

from my perspective, trading down that far in rd 1 means that it is very likely all of our targets in rd 1 will be gone by the time we pick, so we are picking a rd 2 talent at the bottom of rd 1...that is a lot to give up IMO

conversely the team trading up will be getting exactly who they want

so we better be getting premium value otherwise dont trade down and pick someone you are convinced has rd 1 talent

I agree that if you are at 18 and still have a player remaining that has 1st round talent, then take him. By all means.

My guess is that this year they have 15-18 (max 20) players graded as 1st round talent, but maybe 30-35 with second round talent. That is why there is so much avlue in trading down IF all the players you have graded as 1s are gone at 18.
The other, less likely, scenario would be if there were 4-5 remaing with 1st rouds grades that you have ranked about the same. That too warrants a small trade down of 3-4 slots.

I prefer to take the best player on the team's board at 18, assuming that player has a 1st round grade.

 

[morasp]

trading back to 31 is very far down
i would need to get 61 and a 4th rounder (in addition to 31)

would rather trade down to 23-24

The Vikings at 23 might want to get ahead of the Rams to pick Patterson. According to NFL.com WR is a top need for both. That would be 900 - 760 or 140 points.

 

[DFWJC]

The Vikings at 23 might want to get ahead of the Rams to pick Patterson. According to NFL.com WR is a top need for both. That would be 900 - 760 or 140 points.

The Vikings at 25 is a really clean trade.


Dallas' 18th for their 25th and 83rd

 

[Idgit]

The Vikings at 23 might want to get ahead of the Rams to pick Patterson. According to NFL.com WR is a top need for both. That would be 900 - 760 or 140 points.

Vikes are in pretty good shape where they're at to get their MLB and to get a falling DE to help out Jared Allen. And there will be 2nd round WRs available that can help them. I don't think they move up unless Tavon Austin slips for some reason, and even then, they'd have to move up past us at 18.

 

[morasp]

Vikes are in pretty good shape where they're at to get their MLB and to get a falling DE to help out Jared Allen. And there will be 2nd round WRs available that can help them. I don't think they move up unless Tavon Austin slips for some reason, and even then, they'd have to move up past us at 18.

That's the thing with this draft a lot of teams have probably figured out the value in rounds 2-4 so it would take quite a bit for someone to want to move up.