TO and Shockey

[88 enough said]

Does TO have the same effect on TONY that Shockey had on Eli. Walking on eggs shells, etc. I just wonder if next year would the Boys be better without TO. Granted we would have to have another wideout. But he is just a bombshell. I like TO but I just think that his shadow lingers so heavily on each play that doesnt go towards him that it is a hindrence on this offense.

 

[Boysboy]

Does TO have the same effect on TONY that Shockey had on Eli. Walking on eggs shells, etc. I just wonder if next year would the Boys be better without TO. Granted we would have to have another wideout. But he is just a bombshell. I like TO but I just think that his shadow lingers so heavily on each play that doesnt go towards him that it is a hindrence on this offense.

Yeah-if we had hung onto that 13-3 lead in the 4th against a Steelers offense that was doing next to nothing, these numerous anti-TO threads wouldn't even be a second thought.

 

[twentytwo]

Yeah-if we had hung onto that 13-3 lead in the 4th against a Steelers offense that was doing next to nothing, these numerous anti-TO threads wouldn't even be a second thought.

Amen. No idea how every single one of our losses is TOs fault. I wish more of our players had the passion that TO has. He's a competitor.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Could very well be the case, you never know until the marriage ends.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

If you asked Eli about Shockey.

Then asked Romo about TO.... do you think they both say the same things?

 

[SDogo]

It's really not that far fetched of an idea. To be honest, a part of me (a big part) is sort of hoping Dallas cuts ties with TO after the season.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

If you asked Eli about Shockey.

Then asked Romo about TO.... do you think they both say the same things?

Privately maybe...

 

[88 enough said]

If you asked Eli about Shockey.

Then asked Romo about TO.... do you think they both say the same things?

They would both say the politically correct thing. But what about if they were with their dads cooking out and having a beer.

I have enjoyed watching TO and pulling for him. To say he is a competitor is one thing but its a thin line between that and being a selfish crybaby. You ask yourself- Would TO be ok catching 2 balls a game all year and they were winning, if his stats were 32 catches for 500 yards for 2008 but the Boys were 15-1. I just wonder is it winning that is important or being the vocal point of the offense.

 

[Big Dakota]

It's really not that far fetched of an idea. To be honest, a part of me (a big part) is sort of hoping Dallas cuts ties with TO after the season.

It's not far fetched at all. But, i don't know if i'd go as far as parting ways in 09. If it falls apart and turns sour again next year then i'd consider it. We still have to see how 08 turns out.

 

[casmith07]

They would both say the politically correct thing. But what about if they were with their dads cooking out and having a beer.

I have enjoyed watching TO and pulling for him. To say he is a competitor is one thing but its a thin line between that and being a selfish crybaby. You ask yourself- Would TO be ok catching 2 balls a game all year and they were winning, if his stats were 32 catches for 500 yards for 2008 but the Boys were 15-1. I just wonder is it winning that is important or being the vocal point of the offense.

Winning. When he stunk it up and we won, he said nothing, just happy to get the W.

It's when he's uninvolved in the offense and the Cowboys lose that he gets upset, because he feels like he can be a catalyst for victory. I don't blame him - all great players want to win the game for their team.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

They would both say the politically correct thing. But what about if they were with their dads cooking out and having a beer.

I have enjoyed watching TO and pulling for him. To say he is a competitor is one thing but its a thin line between that and being a selfish crybaby. You ask yourself- Would TO be ok catching 2 balls a game all year and they were winning, if his stats were 32 catches for 500 yards for 2008 but the Boys were 15-1. I just wonder is it winning that is important or being the vocal point of the offense.

What would Romo's stats/wins be without TO to start his career??

 

[Dave_in-NC]

What would Romo's stats/wins be without TO to start his career??

There is no way of knowing, we don't know who would be here if owens wasn't.

 

[Boysboy]

There is no way of knowing, we don't know who would be here if owens wasn't.

Meshawn?

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

There is no way of knowing, we don't know who would be here if owens wasn't.

Teams are now starting the pin their ears back and they are gunning for Romo.

Take TO out of the offense where he accounts for 2(sometimes 3) defenders and Romo is getting nailed more and more.

Unfortunately some just dont/WONT see that.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Teams are now starting the pin their ears back and they are gunning for Romo.

Take TO out of the offense where he accounts for 2(sometimes 3) defenders and Romo is getting nailed more and more.

Unfortunately some just dont/WONT see that.

That has zero to do with what I said but ok.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

There is no way of knowing, we don't know who would be here if owens wasn't.

That has zero to do with what I said but ok.

Ok.

Go check Garcia's stats WITH TO and without. Over 30 TD's with TO in his offense - 2 years in a row. Never sniffed that again when TO left.


Go check McNabb's stats WITH TO and without. 31 TD's with TO. McNabb first and only time over 30 TD's.


There is absolutely a way of knowing. Just check Owens/QB success.

A large part of "The legend of Tony Romo" is due in part to having TO in his offense.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Ok.

Go check Garcia's stats WITH TO and without. Over 30 TD's with TO in his offense - 2 years in a row. Never sniffed that again when TO left.


Go check McNabb's stats WITH TO and without. 31 TD's with TO. McNabb first and only time over 30 TD's.


There is absolutely a way of knowing. Just check Owens/QB success.

A large part of "The legend of Tony Romo" is due in part to having TO in his offense.

McNabb got to the SB while owens was hurt right? I could be wrong.
Garcia has been very good and very bad his whole career.

He was benched at the beginning of this year, he seems to be doing well now and could very well be in the playoffs while owens is at home crying to the press.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

McNabb got to the SB while owens was hurt right? I could be wrong.
Garcia has been very good and very bad his whole career.

Can I borrow this?

your quote - "That has zero to do with what I said but ok."





I made my point.
You evaded.

 

[CF74]

Apples to oranges. Romo has way more back bone than Sheli...

 

[Boysboy]

McNabb got to the SB while owens was hurt right? I could be wrong.
Garcia has been very good and very bad his whole career.

He was benched at the beginning of this year, he seems to be doing well now and could very well be in the playoffs while owens is at home crying to the press.

Garcia is having a heck of a game tonight, FWIW. I've always liked him. Never liked McNabb though.