To Fade or not to Fade?

[DaBoys4Life]

I don't tnink Romp can throw a fade route to save his life.

 

[Clove]

Bennett needs to learn how to run routes like Witten.

 

[big dog cowboy]

We are the best running team in the league and it's not all because of misdirection plays and cutbacks.

Don't overthink it. Run the ball behind your road graders and score.

Winner winner chicken dinner.

 

[adbutcher]

Obviously opposing teams monitor tendencies and such. My point is on 3rd and goal from the 1 in a tight game, punch it in. There's a time and place for everything.

Are you going to run a flea-flicker on 4th and goal from the 1/2 inch line down 4 points in the 4th quarter just so teams can have something to think about in December? Of course not. Obviously that's a bit extreme but i think you see my point. IMO at least, I'd just prefer, particularly on that 3rd down, to go to a higher %age playcall, that's all.

I have no problem with this point. My only argument would be that it is not a guarantee that we score even if we ran the ball.

Now my intended purpose of this thread was to shed some possible light on why Red dialed up the fade, which ironically I am not a big fan of.

 

[DallasDomination]

With roy Williams out there then yes the fade is a good pass. But Romo needs to learn how to throw it better.

 

[adbutcher]

All this discussion of why it was a good call"IF", points out the reason he should have run it.

You don't call 2 pass plays that your QB hasn't shown the consistent ability to execute properly when all you need is a half a yard and you have 2 road graders in your interior OL and a great blocking FB. Also Choice is not a scat back he can be a thumper.

We are the best running team in the league and it's not all because of misdirection plays and cutbacks.

Don't overthink it. Run the ball behind your road graders and score.

If we had lost that game 14-13 those 2 play calls would have Garrett on the hot seat.

Interesting, your presumption is that "IF" we would have ran the ball we would have scored while simultaneously using the "IF" we would have lost scenario. This forum never cease to amaze me in our ability to talk out of both sides of our mouths.

 

[adbutcher]

Winner winner chicken dinner.

Oddly enough, a lot of our running success came on our ability to run the lead draw. I wonder why is that? Any one care to earn a chicken dinner?

 

[Iago33]

I like the fade ..... but Romo needs to learn how to throw it .

Brad Johnson throws the fade better than Romo. What does that say?

 

[Iago33]

Winner winner chicken dinner.

If I never hear that again it will be too soon.

What were we talking about?

 

[adbutcher]

Brad Johnson throws the fade better than Romo. What does that say?

It says Romo is not perfect but I have confidence that he will find success on many occasions with the fade, this season. Ironically, some use to say that Aikman could not throw the deep ball but he had plenty success with the deep ball in his career.

 

[zrinkill]

Brad Johnson throws the fade better than Romo. What does that say?

Nothing ......

Brad was a Superbowl winning QB.

It would be silly to think he had no ability at all left.

 

[theebs]

I liked them both.

Bennett blew the second one, that should have been an easy 6.

 

[TD-33]

RW11 is one thing, but guys MartyB is a 6'6" freak that can do this


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consider him being covered by a linebacker, the fade to Bennett should be MONEY.

 

[Hoofbite]

I like the fade ..... but Romo needs to learn how to throw it .

Yeah, he pretty much sucks at it.

 

[Hoofbite]

Brad Johnson throws the fade better than Romo. What does that say?

That's all Brad can throw.

All passes of his have the same trajectory of a fade. Sad thing is, he's trying to throw ropes instead of fades.

 

[EPL0c0]

I like the fade ..... but Romo needs to learn how to throw it .

took the words out of my mouth. It works well, especially with an athletic WR like Roy Williams and/or a monster of a TE like Martellus Bennett. Romo just needs to learn how to throw it effectively.

Bennett can be gold in that part of the field w/ that pass. And as he and Roy becomes a threat, it can open things up for Witten and the RBs.

 

[Dodger12]

He needs to throw it higher for both ..... The corner was able to knock it free from Roy because it was to low.

(Now Roy should have still caught it .... but)

The corner never knocked it free because Roy never had it, it went right though his hands; but I agree that Roy should have caught it.

 

[WV Cowboy]

You don't call 2 pass plays that your QB hasn't shown the consistent ability to execute properly when all you need is a half a yard and you have 2 road graders in your interior OL and a great blocking FB. Also Choice is not a scat back he can be a thumper.
We are the best running team in the league and it's not all because of misdirection plays and cutbacks.

Don't overthink it. Run the ball behind your road graders and score.

Running the ball inside the one or two yard line successfully is "an attitude."

I would have liked to run the ball twice, ... I like the message it sends. And at that point in the game the Carolina defense did not seem capable of buckling down and stopping us from doing something that we had been doing well. They almost looked as if they knew and had submitted to the fact that we were going to run the ball over them for the score.

But like someone else said, there is no guarantee we score if we run.

The play I like there, and seems to work a lot is line up in a strong formation, play fake, and then hit the TE (that originally was blocking) in the flat.

I see that work a lot.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Interesting, your presumption is that "IF" we would have ran the ball we would have scored while simultaneously using the "IF" we would have lost scenario. This forum never cease to amaze me in our ability to talk out of both sides of our mouths.

Any play call is an unkown before it's run. That's not hard to understand.

But the topic you brought up for discussion is what should have been the call at the time Garrett was deciding what play to run.

Most everyone agrees, (including the analysts and even our own Head Coach), that the play that probably would have given us the best chance to score from a 1/2 yard away was a simple run, not a pass play that Romo has failed to execute in similar situations.

That's my only point.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Running the ball inside the one or two yard line successfully is "an attitude."

I would have liked to run the ball twice, ... I like the message it sends. And at that point in the game the Carolina defense did not seem capable of buckling down and stopping us from doing something that we had been doing well. They almost looked as if they knew and had submitted to the fact that we were going to run the ball over them for the score.

But like someone else said, there is no guarantee we score if we run.

The play I like there, and seems to work a lot is line up in a strong formation, play fake, and then hit the TE (that originally was blocking) in the flat.

I see that work a lot.

I agree with this post 100%. It was the message it would have sent. We were running it and it seemed like there wasn't much they could do to stop it.

But I also agree that nothing is a guarantee.

If you call a pass on second down make it a pass play like you described, not that lob/fade pass that we have failed to execute in similar situations.