Todd Haley

[jobberone]

I dont think that is true. His contract was up and parcells retired and he had a chance to get a coordinator job with a new staff in arizona.

What is true is that Haley has a backbone and doesnt give a darn if the owner declares a guy off limits. Owens like all bullies didnt like be called out when he tried to play his I am above authority game with haley and then tried to turn everyone on haley.

That is why owens was such a whiny pipsqueak in 06, there were people here putting his behind in place.

To be completely fair Haley has been called a hot head. OTOH, coaches get to yell at players and not vice versa.

 

[Randy White]

I already said it... Todd Haley almost blew them the game. Look, I don't think Haley is a good coach, nor am I defending him. I'm just saying that the scheming had everything to do with the Cardinals out-performing the Eagles defense.

I think it sucks that even Haley showed that he was a much better OC than Garrett, and he isn't even that good. It makes me mad as hell that Haley, who has as much talent as Garrett, maybe less, got more out of his team than garrett.

BTW, the first drive in the second-half, warner missed a WO Boldin that should have been a TD.

The difference between Garrett and Haley, or Garrett and this year's successful OC in the league is not scheming. It's execution. Every single OC, yes including Garrett ( wether some want to believe it or not ) adjust their styles. The difference is that some adjustments are executed and some are not.

A key first down on that drive was a swing pass to the HB on 3rd down. You want to know why it worked ? because the O-line protected, the QB threw it accurately, the HB caught it, AND Fitzgerald laid a pick on the LB that sprung the HB open.

ANY of those players fails to do their job, the play doesn't work and the OC looks like an idiot for calling a " predictable " play on 3rd and long.

 

[Randy White]

Based on your Avatar, I think you were around during the 70s greatness like myself.

I was 9 years old when I watched my first SB ( Cowboys crushing the Orange crush ).

#54 is almost like a God to me.

 

[khiladi]

The difference between Garrett and Haley, or Garrett and this year's successful OC in the league is not scheming. It's execution. Every single OC, yes including Garrett ( wether some want to believe it or not ) adjust their styles. The difference is that some adjustments are executed and some are not.

A key first down on that drive was a swing pass to the HB on 3rd down. You want to know why it worked ? because the O-line protected, the QB threw it accurately, the HB caught it, AND Fitzgerald laid a pick on the LB that sprung the HB open.

ANY of those players fails to do their job, the play doesn't work and the OC looks like an idiot for calling a " predictable " play on 3rd and long.

It worked precisely because it was a good play-call, not just execution. Even though the Eagles didn't blitz, the Cardinals expected blitz and the amount of lineman they had out there made it easy for Hightower to get in the end-zone. eagles were covering deep in the the end-zone, because the Cardinals were in third and long. It wasn't simply because everybody did their jobs, the play had everybody in the right place to make it happen.

Execution is about as vague as it gets, becaue execution is dictated by a number of htings, including the right scheme. Your not going to be able to execute successfully if your scheming sucks.

 

[Vintage]

They managed to put up 32 on the 'vaunted' Philly D. Yes, thats 26 more than Boy Wonders group managed.

They also have Kurt Warner.

We have Tony Romo.

sneaky

 

[Clove]

They also have Kurt Warner.

We have Tony Romo.

sneaky

That hurt.

 

[Randy White]

It worked precisely because it was a good play-call, not just execution. Even though the Eagles didn't blitz, the Cardinals expected blitz and the amount of lineman they had out there made it easy for Hightower to get in the end-zone. eagles were covering deep in the the end-zone, because the Cardinals were in third and long. It wasn't simply because everybody did their jobs, the play had everybody in the right place to make it happen.

Execution is about as vague as it gets, becaue execution is dictated by a number of htings, including the right scheme. Your not going to be able to execute successfully if your scheming sucks.

Once again, ANY of those players fail to do their job, the play doesn't work and Wisenhunt is called an idiot for failing to get the ball to Fitzgerald, their best player.

There's no such thing as a " good play call ". It's only a " good play call " when it's executed well.

 

[khiladi]

Once again, ANY of those players fail to do their job, the play doesn't work and Wisenhunt is called an idiot for failing to get the ball to Fitzgerald, their best player.

There's no such thing as a " good play call ". It's only a " good play call " when it's executed well.

And a coaches job is to put his players in position to make plays. They were in position to make the play, because of the scheme, not because they supposedly 'executed'. You execute a scheme, of which:

You can execute a good scheme poorly
You can execute a good scheme well
You can execute a bad scheme poorly
you can execute a bad scheme well

In this case, the play-call had everybody in a posiiton to make plays, and the eagles defense wasn't in a position to make plays, because they schemed for a pass into the end-zone on third and goal.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I have to laugh at this "What about the 3rd quarter" talk. Ohhhh, you got us. He merely put up 32 on the Eagles in the big game (Garrett put up 6) instead of 49 ... he must really suck. Touche. Did you think a team that was good enough to make it to the NFC Championship was just going to lay down and take it for 60 minutes like they took it in the first half? The Eagles have some pride, and they predictably regrouped, got a little momentum, made a run. The Cardinals weathered it, took their best shot, counter punched and put the game away.


Haley came into this season and challenged Fitzgerald, both privately and in the media, basically the same way Parcells used to challenge Witten ... "You're good, but good isn't good enough." Haley was also on Warner's rear end all year about not fumbling the ball and not making stupid throws in the middle of the field, both of which have plagued Warner for years. I wish we had someone on this coaching staff that challenged players to take their game to the next level instead of bristling and scoffing anytime one of our delicate little snowflakes is challenged by the media.


Anyway, I wish we could get a coach like that, but I'm afraid Haley is going to KC to join Pioli.

 

[theebs]

I have to laugh at this "What about the 3rd quarter" talk. Ohhhh, you got us. He merely put up 32 on the Eagles in the big game (Garrett put up 6) instead of 49 ... he must really suck. Touche. Did you think a team that was good enough to make it to the NFC Championship was just going to lay down and take it for 60 minutes like they took it in the first half? The Eagles have some pride, and they predictably regrouped, got a little momentum, made a run. The Cardinals weathered it, took their best shot, counter punched and put the game away.


Haley came into this season and challenged Fitzgerald, both privately and in the media, basically the same way Parcells used to challenge Witten ... "You're good, but good isn't good enough." Haley was also on Warner's rear end all year about not fumbling the ball and not making stupid throws in the middle of the field, both of which have plagued Warner for years. I wish we had someone on this coaching staff that challenged players to take their game to the next level instead of bristling and scoffing anytime one of our delicate little snowflakes is challenged by the media.


Anyway, I wish we could get a coach like that, but I'm afraid Haley is going to KC to join Pioli.

I am not sure, but didnt our offense come back in arizona? Didnt our offense have some pride and fight back on the backs of romo and barber and witten?

Cause I remember it doing just that only to have the special teams blow the game.

The eagles are just as erratic as we are. They have a much better staff even what is left of it, but they are just as erratic. All year long they have been penalized at bad times, had their qb play atrocious, then great and play great defense and then bad defense. And their special teams were horrendous today.

I am not saying we would have won this game or anything crazy, just that the eagles and Dallas are pretty much the same, and they have a solid gm and staff, we dont. So make of that what you will.

 

[Rampage]

I am not sure, but didnt our offense come back in arizona? Didnt our offense have some pride and fight back on the backs of romo and barber and witten?

Cause I remember it doing just that only to have the special teams blow the game.

The eagles are just as erratic as we are. They have a much better staff even what is left of it, but they are just as erratic. All year long they have been penalized at bad times, had their qb play atrocious, then great and play great defense and then bad defense. And their special teams were horrendous today.

I am not saying we would have won this game or anything crazy, just that the eagles and Dallas are pretty much the same, and they have a solid gm and staff, we dont. So make of that what you will.

eagles win playoff games. we don't for some reason.

 

[theebs]

eagles win playoff games. we don't for some reason.

Like I said, I dont think we would have won today or maybe even not got that far....

Just saying the eagles when all is said and done have issues too.

Their qb is as erratic as they come and their defense becomes a one trick pony when you block them up front.

 

[GOLDENCHILD1688]

yeah, that Fitz sure makes a OC look good............

yeah

AND SO SHOULD T.O., ROY, CRAYTON, AUSTIN, WITTEN, BENNETT, CHOICE, BARBER AND FELIX

oh wait

 

[InmanRoshi]

I am not sure, but didnt our offense come back in arizona? Didnt our offense have some pride and fight back on the backs of romo and barber and witten?

Cause I remember it doing just that only to have the special teams blow the game.

The eagles are just as erratic as we are. They have a much better staff even what is left of it, but they are just as erratic. All year long they have been penalized at bad times, had their qb play atrocious, then great and play great defense and then bad defense. And their special teams were horrendous today.

I am not saying we would have won this game or anything crazy, just that the eagles and Dallas are pretty much the same, and they have a solid gm and staff, we dont. So make of that what you will.

In fairness to the Eagles, for all intents and purposes, they've been playing "playoff" football since November. They had to win four of their last 5 just to sneak into the playoffs. Then won two playoff games. It wasn't a surprise to me that they eventually ran out of gas, but it took an incredible amount of guts and heart to climb out of the hole they dug at the start of the year.

 

[theebs]

In fairness to the Eagles, for all intents and purposes, they've been playing "playoff" football since November. They had to win four of their last 5 just to sneak into the playoffs. Then won two playoff games. It wasn't a surprise to me that they eventually ran out of gas.

Thats true, but that is what we did also and we played the 4 best teams in the league in december! However there is no excuse for ever quitting though and that is why I believe since you cant change all the players, the whole staff should have been removed the week after the loss. The respect and trust is long gone. The wade phillips hire was about short term goals and short term results. They didnt reach them, yet he is still here..it makes zero sense.

but I think it says more about their team than their gas tank. They are an erratic mistake prone team also. The eagles play some crappy football at times, its just that alot of the media doesnt emphasize it.

 

[khiladi]

The Eagles didn't plany crappy football. McNabb played erratic football. If he hit his receivers on a couple of plays in the first half, they would have won.