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True Lowber has loads of potential. Reportedly Lowber has run the 40 in 4.32 with a 41 1/2 vertical leap while being 6-3, 208. Before his knee injuries, he reportdely ran the 40 in 4.1. How true that is I dont know.

The knock on him is that he keeps reverting to his old ways and trying to do things his way or what he thinks and not letting things sink in what his coaches are telling him.

The play I am refering to is this, on the last series that Bartel threw an interception was due to the fact, that Todd lowber was running to the left, then he went back a few steps to the right, which resulted in an interception. Even Todd admitted that the interception was his fault, which shows Todd sometimes doenst get it, even when T O was trying to show him about running on a route, Lowber was making excuses for the depth route.

Dont get me wrong, I like Lowber, I even wrote him several messages through Hard Knocks on HBO website. Which I was encouraging him to keep studying, reading his bible, working with a QB after practice and a defensive back. For him to ask questions, and study and work.

I think he does have potential, and yesssssss, most likely Jeff Ireland & Parcells are looking at players to get from the Cowboys when they are released. Thats Parcells history, to get players that are cut or released from his previous teams.

I think what would help if say Jerry Jones asked Michael Irvin to come out and teach the WRS and TEs some more techniques. We know some of it helped because Hannah was one of the players that took some teaching methods from Irvin.

Coaches can only teach so much, but players can teach more since they played the game and know the old tricks, routes, etc.

I would like for the Cowboys to keep Lowber and not risk him on waivers like they did with Matt Moore, we all know how that turned out. Like Parcells did, when Coach Parcells had Hurd and Austin on the team and he called several general managers and coaches he knew, and they told him, dont put Hurd or Austin on waivers because he will be released.

So, the Cowboys do need to find a way to keep Lowber, Keon Lattimore and Hannah, those guys show potential. Its like Jimmy Johnson showed when he rebuilt the Dallas Cowboys in the early 90s,, which was with speed. You cant teach speed.

What I would recommend, is for Jerry Jones to ask Michael Irvin to coach Lowber a few more days, along with Sherman, then ask Irvin what he thinks about Lowber.

But Lowber has to study, do what the coaches tell him, spend extra time on the juggs machine that throws footballs, and spend another hour after practice with a QB, defensive back in route running and what an experienced cb will try to do to him. Like Rayfield Wright said in the early 70s, young Harvey Martin was on the team, and after practice Rayfield would work an extra hour with Martin, it helped all pro Wright and helped bring young Harvey Martin along.
 

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Talk about a guy who was just thrown on the roster because a roster spot was open, am I the only one who thinks this guy has loads and loads of potential?????? His interviews tell his story, all he needs is some snaps and the rest is history. He has good size and he is, one of, if not, the fastest player at camp. I would love to see him get some first team snaps as the third reciever. Its only preseason whats a series in the 2nd quarter? He just needs to get into his playbook.

If it weren't for Hard Knocks, hardly anybody would be in Lowber's corner. I think he is Practice Squad material... maybe.
 

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cowboyjoe;2204101 said:
True Lowber has loads of potential. Reportedly Lowber has run the 40 in 4.32 with a 41 1/2 vertical leap while being 6-3, 208. Before his knee injuries, he reportdely ran the 40 in 4.1. How true that is I dont know.

The knock on him is that he keeps reverting to his old ways and trying to do things his way or what he thinks and not letting things sink in what his coaches are telling him.

The play I am refering to is this, on the last series that Bartel threw an interception was due to the fact, that Todd lowber was running to the left, then he went back a few steps to the right, which resulted in an interception. Even Todd admitted that the interception was his fault, which shows Todd sometimes doenst get it, even when T O was trying to show him about running on a route, Lowber was making excuses for the depth route.

Dont get me wrong, I like Lowber, I even wrote him several messages through Hard Knocks on HBO website. Which I was encouraging him to keep studying, reading his bible, working with a QB after practice and a defensive back. For him to ask questions, and study and work.

I think he does have potential, and yesssssss, most likely Jeff Ireland & Parcells are looking at players to get from the Cowboys when they are released. Thats Parcells history, to get players that are cut or released from his previous teams.

I think what would help if say Jerry Jones asked Michael Irvin to come out and teach the WRS and TEs some more techniques. We know some of it helped because Hannah was one of the players that took some teaching methods from Irvin.

Coaches can only teach so much, but players can teach more since they played the game and know the old tricks, routes, etc.

I would like for the Cowboys to keep Lowber and not risk him on waivers like they did with Matt Moore, we all know how that turned out. Like Parcells did, when Coach Parcells had Hurd and Austin on the team and he called several general managers and coaches he knew, and they told him, dont put Hurd or Austin on waivers because he will be released.

So, the Cowboys do need to find a way to keep Lowber, Keon Lattimore and Hannah, those guys show potential. Its like Jimmy Johnson showed when he rebuilt the Dallas Cowboys in the early 90s,, which was with speed. You cant teach speed.

What I would recommend, is for Jerry Jones to ask Michael Irvin to coach Lowber a few more days, along with Sherman, then ask Irvin what he thinks about Lowber.

But Lowber has to study, do what the coaches tell him, spend extra time on the juggs machine that throws footballs, and spend another hour after practice with a QB, defensive back in route running and what an experienced cb will try to do to him. Like Rayfield Wright said in the early 70s, young Harvey Martin was on the team, and after practice Rayfield would work an extra hour with Martin, it helped all pro Wright and helped bring young Harvey Martin along.

You need to recheck your fact.
 

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The tough part for him is he has almost zero football experience. So not only does he have to understand the playbook, he has to understand defenses and all of those little things that you have to do in order to be a productive WR. Sometimes players with little experience can pick those up quite quickly, but more often than not if you haven't played much football you just never really learn. That's why they may just take a guy like Mike Jefferson on the practice squad. Jefferson may not be the athlete, but he doesn't have near the learning curve that Lowber does.





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what fact do i need to recheck,

todd is 6=3, about 205 or so, he has run the 40 in 4.32, there was an article that Lowber ran a 4.1, but that was before he had knee surgery. Someone posted he did have surgery on both knees. I said, I dont know if the 4.1 speed was true, or not.

Rayfield Wright did teach Harvey Martin some techniques an hour after practice,

Jimmy Johnson did teach speed and believe in speed kills.

Lowber was the one that caused the interception, I know they said on TV it was amendola that went the wrong way, but it was Lowber, even Lowber admitted on HardKnocks that the interception was his fault.

Michael Irvin taught WRs and TEs in practice, Lowber was one of the players along with Hannah.
 

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cowboyjoe;2204146 said:
The play I am refering to is this, on the last series that Bartel threw an interception was due to the fact, that Todd lowber was running to the left, then he went back a few steps to the right, which resulted in an interception. Even Todd admitted that the interception was his fault, which shows Todd sometimes doenst get it, even when T O was trying to show him about running on a route, Lowber was making excuses for the depth route.

This falsehood that you stated as a fact is completely inaccurate.
 

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well, you need to relook at the tape, is all i can tell you, even Todd Lowber said on film on HardKnocks that the interception was his fault.

It shows clearly that Lowber was going one way, where the defensive back intercepted the ball, then Lowber took a step back or two the other way, by that time, Bartel had already threw the ball.

I dont know what film you are looking at, but I am talking about the interception that Bartel threw and Bartel made the game saving tackle. ON that play, it clearly shows Todd going towards the defensive back, then he stops and takes a step or two back the other way, by that time, Bartel saw Lowber running the route and he threw that way.

Even the announcers on channel fox sports said so, and daryl johnston the Moose said so, Lowber stopped his route and went the other way,
 

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cowboyjoe;2204164 said:
well, you need to relook at the tape, is all i can tell you, even Todd Lowber said on film on HardKnocks that the interception was his fault.

It shows clearly that Lowber was going one way, where the defensive back intercepted the ball, then Lowber took a step back or two the other way, by that time, Bartel had already threw the ball.

I dont know what film you are looking at, but I am talking about the interception that Bartel threw and Bartel made the game saving tackle. ON that play, it clearly shows Todd going towards the defensive back, then he stops and takes a step or two back the other way, by that time, Bartel saw Lowber running the route and he threw that way.

Even the announcers on channel fox sports said so, and daryl johnston the Moose said so, Lowber stopped his route and went the other way,
actually it was danny boy ...
 

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cowboyjoe;2204164 said:
well, you need to relook at the tape, is all i can tell you, even Todd Lowber said on film on HardKnocks that the interception was his fault.

It shows clearly that Lowber was going one way, where the defensive back intercepted the ball, then Lowber took a step back or two the other way, by that time, Bartel had already threw the ball.

I dont know what film you are looking at, but I am talking about the interception that Bartel threw and Bartel made the game saving tackle. ON that play, it clearly shows Todd going towards the defensive back, then he stops and takes a step or two back the other way, by that time, Bartel saw Lowber running the route and he threw that way.

Even the announcers on channel fox sports said so, and daryl johnston the Moose said so, Lowber stopped his route and went the other way,
More nonsense. Moose got it right, Babe got it wrong. You are down to your last straw stop grasping.
 

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I don't think there is any way we can keep Lattimore, Hannah and Lowber particularly if you look at our injuries at LB with Spencer and Burnett and our depth at CB.
 

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I think Lowber is a perfect candidate for the practice squad. A talented player lacking in experience who could benefit from a season of wathcing and learning.

It's obvious that he's nowhere near ready to be an NFL receiver and odds are he may never be. A year on the practice squad could he the team to find out.

And I don't think the team has to fear Parcells and Co 'stealing him away', as the fact is that Parcells grabs players he knows, and he has no experience with Lowber.

Lowber is a Garrett 'pet project' all the way.

As for Lattimore and Hannah, I think the team has to roll the dice and risk putting them on the practice squad as well.
 

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well shut my mouth, you guys were right, i just went back and looked, was amendola,

when i am wrong i admit it,
 

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cowboyjoe;2204270 said:
well shut my mouth, you guys were right, i just went back and looked, was amendola,

when i am wrong i admit it,

Kudos!

That's a trait more folks should have.

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as far was keeping Hannah, Lowber, and Lattimore I am thinking this plus with what Jerry Jones said;

Teams now know that Miami has the first rights to waived players, and Parcells knows our scouts, and most of the coaches along with their techniques, etc

Jerry Jones said that most teams now might be willing to trade with the Cowboys for such players and not let Miami have first shot at the waiver wire.

Now, the players that maybe traded, could be the such that are being mentioned, but it could also be players that we think have the team made and they dont.

Example, McQuistan seems to be losing ground, along with James Marten on the offensive line. Everyone knows that Parcells and Sparano coveted McQuistan, and they also wanted Bobby Carpenter in a trade. That being said, I am just pointing to the fact, that you might see a few players traded that you might not think would be traded, along with players like Hannah, Olgesby, Alan Ball, Lowber, McQuistan, James Marten,, Leon Lattimore, and possibly others.

If the Cowboys are interested in keeping young talent, then their is always a way. Before in the past, we did trade players recently like Shanle, the TE to Patriots, etc. So, trades can be worked. Also, most teams know that the Cowboys team is loaded now with talent.

Granted, I dont think Bobby Carpenter will be traded, we all saw what happened when Burnett went down again with a slight injury. You need at least 8 linebackers in the 3-4 defense. Bradie James, Zach Thomas, Ware, Spencer, Ellis, Burnett, Carpenter, thats 7 linebackers right there, I just dont see Carpenter being traded. George and the other linebacker havent shown too much so far.

Hannah to me, is like Miles Austin was last year, Hannah is about a year away, the talent is there, just needs bringin out, along with Bennett's talent.

And I have heard Hannah is making some moves in practices the last few days.

Lattimore is showing some things in last preseason game, now is the time to see what Lattimore, Olgesby, Ball, Hannah, Lowber, Marten do in this next perseason game in the 4th quarter, same thing with Bartel. He showed fair in hte last game too.
 

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I say we try and place him on the practice squad. If he clears waivers, he can stay in our system for this season and have another shot next year. He is blazing fast and has potential.

This way he can acclimate himself more to the speed of the NFL...One year on the Giants practice squad is not long enough for someone with virtually no experience. I think he needs another year of "osmosis" so to speak.
 

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cowboyjoe;2204270 said:
well shut my mouth, you guys were right, i just went back and looked, was amendola,

when i am wrong i admit it,

Not a problem.

Here you go,
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Yes, without hard knocks we would all think this guy is nothing. Since we have it, I like the kids raw abilty.
 

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playmakers;2203523 said:
Talk about a guy who was just thrown on the roster because a roster spot was open, am I the only one who thinks this guy has loads and loads of potential?????? His interviews tell his story, all he needs is some snaps and the rest is history. He has good size and he is, one of, if not, the fastest player at camp. I would love to see him get some first team snaps as the third reciever. Its only preseason whats a series in the 2nd quarter? He just needs to get into his playbook.
I think the guy has loads of potential as well. He will not make the team because he cannot help the team. I hope he makes it to the practice squad.
 
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