Tom Brady & Dak Prescott's first 8 games in the league

[Trouty]

So you don't think Tommy Terrific gets the nod when considering supporting casts? I mean Joe had some HOFers on that offensive squad pretty much as a constant. Can't say the same thing for Tom except for Moss.

Can't disagree, Robbie. It's a preference thing. I was a little guy when Joe was lighting up the league and I was mesmerized, even as a Boys fan from birth. That's probly heavily swaying my opinion.

 

[haleyrules]

So you don't think Tommy Terrific gets the nod when considering supporting casts? I mean Joe had some HOFers on that offensive squad pretty much as a constant. Can't say the same thing for Tom except for Moss and Gronk assuming he makes it.

Montana had a very stout Defense as well and it never got the credit it deserved because of all the great sizzle players.

 

[percyhoward]

Percy, as always, thank you for your incredible input. Looks like Dak is doing more with less (thus far in their respective young careers), given Brady's elite D, if I'm reading your stats right?

To your point, Dak has a better offense, Brady had a better defense. I was just looking at their performances vs the league's best pass defenses (not good -- as you'd expect with any rookie QB) because we're likely to see better pass defenses in the postseason. Dak's sample size of two games is still small, and his first game against a top 10 pass defense was his first career start. If the way he finished against Philly is any indication, he's improving quickly against good defenses.

Prescott vs top 10 pass defenses
before game-tying drive vs Eagles
34 of 67 375 yd 0 td 1 int 61.5
since
10 of 17 139 yd 2 td 0 int 123.4

With 3 of our next 5 games against top 10 pass defenses, we'll get a better idea of how much and how fast Dak can continue that improvement.

 

[eyedoc]

Tom Brady vs. Dak Prescott

Tom:

5-3 W-L
64.7 Comp Pct.
195.6 Pass YPG
12-7 TD-INT
88.0 Passer Rating
22 Sacked

Dak:

7-1 W-L
66.5 Comp Pct.
252.5 Pass YPG
12-2 TD-INT
4 Rushing TD
104.2 Passer Rating
11 Sacked

To me Dak is a young, mobile Tom Brady in the making. They both throw compact darts and live off the intermediate pass, but can let loose and connect in stride on the deep pass when need be (Dak is getting there, but there have been multiple examples this season). Both are natural, vocal leaders in the pocket, with a ferocious desire to win. They both make the safe throw most of the time (not checkdown/flats -- but intermediate posts, seams, slants, fades -- which sets these two apart from most), but both have the ability to throw with finesse into coverage. Dak has had a lot of nicely thrown balls dropped as well; not to say Tom didn't in his first 8 as well.

Tom is certainly the better QB now, hell, he's the second best ever. He sees the field with elite vision still, elite pre-snap, etc. and Dak is still learning to read the field. But I believe Dak's ceiling is somewhere in the Tom Brady-spectrum, with mobility. This is a comparison of their first few games in the NFL and, yeah, it's probably too early in Dak's career to do this, given the guy I'm comparing Dak to. But humor me

Just wanted to post an interesting stat comparison of the two since I really think they comp nicely to each other. I've had many posts on these two in the past. Feel free to disagree and counter with your thoughts And good morning to you all on this fine day, Go Cowboys.

Thanks for posting some very insiteful stats about our young and coming qb versus the best in the NFL. Go Cowboys

 

[Trouty]

Thanks for posting some very insiteful stats about our young and coming qb versus the best in the NFL. Go Cowboys

You got it, buddy! Glad you liked it, Doc

 

[robbieruff]

It still hurts to see it or even think about it.

Yeah. I know. I've rewatched it several times when it replays on this NFL greatest games series on NFL Network. I think the turning point for the game actually was the sequence in the 3rd quarter when Walls picked Joe at the goal line on a deep fade. The ref marked him down inside the one instead of a touchback which was BS in my view. Then, inexplicably, Landry had White throwing slow developing pass plays out of our own endzone and of course they intercepted it rt back, leading to a TD. That completely flipped momentum pretty much for the rest of the game.

 

[Trouty]

To your point, Dak has a better offense, Brady had a better defense. I was just looking at their performances vs the league's best pass defenses (not good -- as you'd expect with any rookie QB) because we're likely to see better pass defenses in the postseason. Dak's sample size of two games is still small, and his first game against a top 10 pass defense was his first career start. If the way he finished against Philly is any indication, he's improving quickly against good defenses.

Prescott vs top 10 pass defenses
before game-tying drive vs Eagles
34 of 67 375 yd 0 td 1 int 61.5
since
10 of 17 139 yd 2 td 0 int 123.4

With 3 of our next 5 games against top 10 pass defenses, we'll get a better idea of how much and how fast Dak can continue that improvement.

Oddly, I'm not too worried, Percy. His determination, poise, and fire to compete leads me to believe he is up for the challenge and will at least compete like we expect in those games.

Percy, again, you bring it so damn well. Thanks for contributing in this thread, brother.

 

[haleyrules]

Yeah. I know. I've rewatched it several times when it replays on this NFL greatest games series on NFL Network. I think the turning point for the game actually was the sequence in the 3rd quarter when Walls picked Joe at the goal line on a deep fade. The ref marked him down inside the one instead of a touchback which was BS in my view. Then, inexplicably, Landry had White throwing slow developing pass plays out of our own endzone and of course they intercepted it rt back, leading to a TD. That completely flipped momentum pretty much for the rest of the game.

Agreed. Ole Tom had started to lose a step by that stage in his long glorious career. Frankly, San Francisco probably had the better club that day.

 

[Jinxx13x]

Tom Brady vs. Dak Prescott

Tom:

5-3 W-L
64.7 Comp Pct.
195.6 Pass YPG
12-7 TD-INT
88.0 Passer Rating
22 Sacked

Dak:

7-1 W-L
66.5 Comp Pct.
252.5 Pass YPG
12-2 TD-INT
4 Rushing TD
104.2 Passer Rating
11 Sacked

To me Dak is a young, mobile Tom Brady in the making. They both throw compact darts and live off the intermediate pass, but can let loose and connect in stride on the deep pass when need be (Dak is getting there, but there have been multiple examples this season). Both are natural, vocal leaders in the pocket, with a ferocious desire to win. They both make the safe throw most of the time (not checkdown/flats -- but intermediate posts, seams, slants, fades -- which sets these two apart from most), but both have the ability to throw with finesse into coverage. Dak has had a lot of nicely thrown balls dropped as well; not to say Tom didn't in his first 8 as well.

Tom is certainly the better QB now, hell, he's the second best ever. He sees the field with elite vision still, elite pre-snap, etc. and Dak is still learning to read the field. But I believe Dak's ceiling is somewhere in the Tom Brady-spectrum, with mobility. This is a comparison of their first few games in the NFL and, yeah, it's probably too early in Dak's career to do this, given the guy I'm comparing Dak to. But humor me

Just wanted to post an interesting stat comparison of the two since I really think they comp nicely to each other. I've had many posts on these two in the past. Feel free to disagree and counter with your thoughts And good morning to you all on this fine day, Go Cowboys.

Trouty Dak Should be LIsted above TOM BRADY

 

[percyhoward]

Oddly, I'm not too worried, Percy. His determination, poise, and fire to compete leads me to believe he is up for the challenge and will at least compete like we expect in those games.

Yeah, the point is to enjoy it.

 

[Bigdog]

We can only hope Prescott has the same career as Brady. I will take his 6 SB appearences and 4 SB wins any day.

 

[Jinxx13x]

We can only hope Prescott has the same career as Brady. I will take his 6 SB appearences and 4 SB wins any day.

yes sir i'll take that

 

[dallasdave]

yes sir i'll take that

 

[jblaze2004]

Dak now is probably better than Brady when Brady first started playing

But Brady is the best qb to ever play the game..Bradys deep ball has developed to the point where it's absolutely a strength of his...he throws a great deep ball these days..that wasn't the case 10 years ago

I would think Bill Belichick had alot to do with brady success. I mean look at this year without brady they didn't miss a beat. Hell remember he made Matt Cassel look like a NFL QB.

Brady is good but that system (all the illegal picks they get away with game after game).

 

[Dodger12]

They might compare in statistically..but are completely different players in style and strength. Prescott won¨t end up like RG3. He has real fundamentals.

We can say this because they played in two completely different offenses. "Style" and "strength" are pretty subjective things to evaluate.

And I'd argue that Dak still lacks the fundamentals. It's why we go shotgun way too many times in key situations because he's rarely played from under center which, IMO, takes away the threat of playaction. That's not being critical of Dak. I'll take it as long as win.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Maybe its just me, but is anyone else bothered by how big the star is on the Pats helmet now.

Maybe its just me.

 

[eternaljester81]

Dak also compares well to RGIII's rookie season. In 15 starts, RGIII had a 65.6 percent completion rate, 3,200 passing yards, 20 passing touchdowns, five interceptions, 815 rushing yards, seven rushing touchdowns and a 102.4 QB rating in 15 games.

Dak is doing great but he's got the front runner for OROY with Zeke, the best OL in the game and a D that's playing way above it's head. Of course, all that is meaningless without good QB play which is what Dak is doing. Right now, this team is fun to watch on Sundays (on both sides of the ball) and I'll take it all day, every day.

Dak may have something to say about that OROY.