Tom Condon

[windjc]

From the little I have read about this guy, he is known as a hard working, not flashy, power agent. He is known to be liked by his clients a lot.

He also seems to back up his offers with facts he believes are real and rationales he thinks are fair. However, in Dez's case it really is true what Stephen said - the question of top money at that position is up to much debate in the current landscape.

Interestingly enough, the one team Condon has fought with the most is the Patriots. Hmmm. Wonder why.

As Stephen and Jerry seem to now be taking a more "Patriots" like approach to cap matters (which I think is a good thing for sure) this fight might get uglier before it gets resolved.

But negotiation is all about leverage (if both negotiators are equal - and in this case they probably are). And Dallas has most of the leverage. Hopefully Condon and Dez concede that fact sooner rather than later.

 

[conner01]

From the little I have read about this guy, he is known as a hard working, not flashy, power agent. He is known to be liked by his clients a lot.

He also seems to back up his offers with facts he believes are real and rationales he thinks are fair. However, in Dez's case it really is true what Stephen said - the question of top money at that position is up to much debate in the current landscape.

Interestingly enough, the one team Condon has fought with the most is the Patriots. Hmmm. Wonder why.

As Stephen and Jerry seem to now be taking a more "Patriots" like approach to cap matters (which I think is a good thing for sure) this fight might get uglier before it gets resolved.

But negotiation is all about leverage (if both negotiators are equal - and in this case they probably are). And Dallas has most of the leverage. Hopefully Condon and Dez concede that fact sooner rather than later.

Good post
An agent can talk tough but in reality in this case he has no leverage at all
Either he signs a deal or plays under the tag
That's the only options because setting out games means you lose those game checks and they never come back, plus it scares some teams away when you do hit the market

 

[erod]

The awkward position for Condon is that he represents four elite receivers all trying to get a deal right now. Dez, Julio Jones, Demariyius Thomas, and AJ Green.

It's hard to "set the receiver market" when the same agent is negotiating for all four receivers.

 

[Doomsday101]

Good post
An agent can talk tough but in reality in this case he has no leverage at all
Either he signs a deal or plays under the tag
That's the only options because setting out games means you lose those game checks and they never come back, plus it scares some teams away when you do hit the market

yeah and the agent still gets his money off the franchise tag so sitting would cost Dez some game checks but Condon will still get his based on the total amount

 

[Seven]

The awkward position for Condon is that he represents four elite receivers all trying to get a deal right now. Dez, Julio Jones, Demariyius Thomas, and AJ Green.

It's hard to "set the receiver market" when the same agent is negotiating for all four receivers.

Why would you say that?

He's got four top receivers and he IS setting the market.

Not saying they'll get paid but he's certainly got the assets.

He's got every opportunity to monopolize, IMO.

 

[Tabascocat]

Once the first domino falls, the rest will follow.

 

[jazzcat22]

The awkward position for Condon is that he represents four elite receivers all trying to get a deal right now. Dez, Julio Jones, Demariyius Thomas, and AJ Green.

It's hard to "set the receiver market" when the same agent is negotiating for all four receivers.

Stephen Jones had said this quite awhile ago. There are quite a few WR's in he same situation, so they can wait to see if a precedence is set. But yes with the same agent, this could be interesting.

Easy solution [sarcasm]....send the same exact contract to all the teams, then see what team comes back with an offer. Use that as a negotiating point for all 4 players.
Some team will eventually work out a deal, and all others fall in place.

 

[waving monkey]

I look for two game holdout as possibility .
The one thing that I assume will be even more important
is ball control in those two Dze-less games [I know,duh]
so the RB issue continues to rear its ugly head
I do think we're OK there [RB] but these are uncertainties
as another poster commented,win those first two games and
Dez loses more teeth.

 

[ufcrules1]

Dez won't sit out. Playing the game means more to him than the money itself.

 

[erod]

I look for two game holdout as possibility .

Why?

After July 15th, the Cowboys aren't allowed to negotiate with him anymore.

 

[jday]

Good post
An agent can talk tough but in reality in this case he has no leverage at all
Either he signs a deal or plays under the tag
That's the only options because setting out games means you lose those game checks and they never come back, plus it scares some teams away when you do hit the market

I disagree slightly.

1. Dez and Condon do have leverage; perhaps not as much as the Cowboys at the moment, but if the Cowboys lose the first two games out of the gate alla Emmitt Smith holdout, watch how the tables turn.
2. If Dez hit's the open market, at least 50% of the NFL will make offers, if not more.

 

[Tabascocat]

Why?

After July 15th, the Cowboys aren't allowed to negotiate with him anymore.

He can still hold out, Dallas just can't negotiate a long-term contract after the 15th.

 

[Sandyf]

Dez can sit for as many games as he wants but sitting isn't going to get him a new contract. Forget what happen with Emmitt because the salary cap didn't apply then. Dez has options, 1. sign the tag after July 15th and play for the $13 mil, 2. agree to a new contract by July 15th on long term, 3. don't sign the tag and sit any number of games before he does sign the tag in which case he loses $752K off the tag number for every game he doesn't play plus he will not be able to practice with the team until the tag is signed, 4. sit for 10 games before he signs so that he accrues a year of service and so Cowboys could only tag him one more year (2016) but he would only receive $4.5 mil for the year.

For the Cowboys, their options are 1. have Dez sign and play the tag for one year and then tag him next year, 2. agree to a long term contract before July 15th or they have to wait until the 2016 NFL year start to sign him to long term contract or tag him again and really that are their only option. If Dez sits for 1 game or 2 games or 10 games, there is nothing Dallas can do for a new contract until after the 2015 season is over completely. So the tables can't be turned as with Emmitt regardless of what happens the first two games and Dez won't hit the open market until after the 2016 season because Dallas will surely tag him in 2016 which would be a $14 mil hit to the cap.

Now after 2016, Dez would become an unrestricted free agent but for Dez he is risking more with no contract. All in all, the contract is going to come down to guaranteed $$ and nothing more. The actual size in $$ and years really don't matter, it is all about guarantee money.

 

[AbeBeta]

Why?

After July 15th, the Cowboys aren't allowed to negotiate with him anymore.

He can hold out to negotiate an agreement that the team won't tag him again

 

[RS12]

Agents gotta eat too. They also have to show clients why they are worth a cut.

 

[conner01]

I disagree slightly.

1. Dez and Condon do have leverage; perhaps not as much as the Cowboys at the moment, but if the Cowboys lose the first two games out of the gate alla Emmitt Smith holdout, watch how the tables turn.
2. If Dez hit's the open market, at least 50% of the NFL will make offers, if not more.

A big difference with enmitt is he still got paid his entire contract, dez can't under the tag
If he refuses to play he won't get paid and the team can't make it up to him
If dez hit the market he will get offers
Probably more than 50% of teams
But there is no evidence he will get the offers he is asking for
He is not the only WR out there getting tagged and none are getting offers for huge contracts
If a team wanted to make him an offer now they could, but none will because none are willing to pay the cost in money and picks and I suspect none would if it was just the money
Teams have seen what paying a WR the cost of a QB has done for teams who have done it

 

[conner01]

yeah and the agent still gets his money off the franchise tag so sitting would cost Dez some game checks but Condon will still get his based on the total amount

It's easy to tell a player to just set out when it's not costing his agent any money

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I disagree slightly.

1. Dez and Condon do have leverage; perhaps not as much as the Cowboys at the moment, but if the Cowboys lose the first two games out of the gate alla Emmitt Smith holdout, watch how the tables turn.
2. If Dez hit's the open market, at least 50% of the NFL will make offers, if not more.

I don't think so.

 

[erod]

He can still hold out, Dallas just can't negotiate a long-term contract after the 15th.

So then what is the point of holding out if they can't talk anyway?

He might as well go out in the back yard, get $800,000 in cash, and light it on fire.

 

[rpntex]

I disagree slightly.

1. Dez and Condon do have leverage; perhaps not as much as the Cowboys at the moment, but if the Cowboys lose the first two games out of the gate alla Emmitt Smith holdout, watch how the tables turn.
2. If Dez hit's the open market, at least 50% of the NFL will make offers, if not more.

While I agree with point # 2, your first point is irrelevant. Emmitt wasn't playing under a franchise tag, and could negotiate with the Cowboys freely throughout the season. Bryant, on the other hand, is playing under a totally different set of rules. He can sit out one, two, or 10 games, and it won't impact the Cowboys negotiating ability/strategy. Even if they lose every game he sits, they cannot negotiate a new deal with him after the July 15 deadline – and neither can anyone else. What little leverage Dez has at this point in time disappears after July 15.