Tom Jackson said with a bad oline and a bad defense, Tom Brady "changed his game"

[Kangaroo]

Yea lets see about the great draft the Patriots have they started a wr and a rfa that was not drafted last year and won a superbowl

This year they have 6db on IR and the current guys where not all drafted by NE

So how is it they can overcome that and the oline by getting players that fit and coaching what they have up.

No excuses excepted but those players are also not afraid to make a mistake just got out there play hard; follow the scheme

 

[DLCassidy]

And I'll keep going. The guy flat out waits for certain parts to come opened no matter how long it takes. - He has no idea of who's close to him defensively, and he keeps taking sacks which stalls drives and causes fumbles.

Maybe the play calling is bad, but maybe when someone is blitzing from a certain side, I can see us slipping Polite right behind the blitz and picking up huge yardage.

We're going to see what happens this Saturday, but to me , anyone can throw behind a great line if you give them all day to throw it. The great ones find a way.

Watch any Packers games this year? Favre has line problems too. He doesn't take sacks- just throws it to the other team.

Did we have a "great line" for the first half of this season? Please. Put Torrin Tucker and Rob Petitti on NE and see how Tom Brady does. Come on.

 

[DLCassidy]

All of the great ones have an extra, hidden gear. When the going gets tough and a particularly difficult task presents itself, the great ones have the uncanny ability to reach within themselves and ascend to an entire different level of athletic and mental greatness. That's what Brady did. With the team around him crumbling, Brady reached within himself and became the last column by with the entire team would stand or fall. He carried the team by himself. Bledsoe will NEVER do that. The team must carry Bledsoe.

LOL Funny how things change. Before the season people were hoping Bledsoe could be a decent upgrade over VT and he was a "busdriver". Now he's dissed because he's not the league MVP (which Brady could well be this year). If Bledsoe needs a good line, WTH not give it to him? He occupies 7m+ less in cap space than a Brady, that can pay for a couple all-pro's for gosh sakes.

 

[kartr]

And even Carter found a way. We need new QB blood, soon.

Exactly, and he had lesser talent around him,but the team never looked like it did on Sunday. He took fewer sacks and had lesser receiver options than we do now and I believe Bledsoe has as many or more passer ratings under 50 this. Actually don't think Carter had any under 50 in 2003. Plus 7 or 8 of his picks were receiver errors(tipped balls, receiver falling down or running the wrong route.

 

[joseephuss]

I haven't watched all the Pats game, but they started two rookies on the left side of the line, and never used it as an excuse. The thing is they have a real O-line coach while we use a TE coach. They also had no running game for most of the year because of injuries, but they adjusted. Our adjustments are to keep running Jones for anywhere between -2 yards and +2yards, and wait til the fourth quarter to unleash Barber.

We lose Adams and the season stopped there.........use that as an excuse the rest of the year. It's not Bledsoe's fault, he is playing with the cards he is dealt. I think if it was up to him, he would have had a wide open attack the whole year.

I'll stop there.................

Last season is the only season that the Pats have had a good running game. They have had to rely on Brady's quick passes the last 4 years. That is why I don't think Brady has drastically changed his game. He is a little more efficient, but I would expect that from any QB who spends time in a system. Their numbers tend to go up a little bit during their prime The mediots want to say that he is doing things different, but it is not true. He just continues to do what he has always done and has done well. Maybe they are just noticing it more today than in the past.

 

[wileedog]

We're going to see what happens this Saturday, but to me , anyone can throw behind a great line if you give them all day to throw it. The great ones find a way.

This just in: Drew Bledsoe is not a great QB.

That's probably why he was available in FA and we signed him for a couple of mil.

 

[joseephuss]

Exactly, and he had lesser talent around him,but the team never looked like it did on Sunday. He took fewer sacks and had lesser receiver options than we do now and I believe Bledsoe has as many or more passer ratings under 50 this. Actually don't think Carter had any under 50 in 2003. Plus 7 or 8 of his picks were receiver errors(tipped balls, receiver falling down or running the wrong route.

Did you just make that up? He threw 21 interceptions. Take away 8 and you still have 13. He threw too many. Every QB has a certain percentage of interceptions that really are the fault of the receiver. They also have several that should have been intercepted, but the defenders just dropped. It all washes out in the end and you just look at the total. Quincy's total in 2003 was 21 and that is not acceptable.

The offensive line right now is not playing any better than that 2003 team. It is playing worse. The 2003 line got Troy Hambrick close to 200 yards at the end of the season. I would gladly take the performance of the 2003 offensive line over what is out there today. Flozell's injury really hurts this team.

Quincy had 3 games where he had a QB ratiing of less than 50. Against Tampa(42.1), New England(38.0) and the Eagles(49.5). He had three other games with ratings between 50 and 60. He had 4 more games between 60 and 70. So 10 of his games, he had a QB rating of less than 70. That is not acceptable in the NFL.

Drew's performance in last weeks game and a couple of other games has also not been acceptable. He has had better games and a few instances, his play was a key to victories.

 

[MapleLeaf]

The man reason Brady can be effective without a great o-line is because his strengths are his quick decision making ability, quick release and accuracy on the short to intermediate passes.

Those are Bledsoes main weaknesses IMO.

... we have a winner!!!

If you would have watched Brady's last three games he has become an exclusive three step passer. As I posted in an earlier thread he has become especially skilled in releasing the ball well before the receiver comes out of his breaks.

He doesn't thread the needle, he predicts when the needle is going to open up. He's a very accurate passer with some mobility.

He's is in my opinion still the best QB in this league because he is a big game QB.

 

[Clove]

Did you just make that up? He threw 21 interceptions. Take away 8 and you still have 13. He threw too many. Every QB has a certain percentage of interceptions that really are the fault of the receiver. They also have several that should have been intercepted, but the defenders just dropped. It all washes out in the end and you just look at the total. Quincy's total in 2003 was 21 and that is not acceptable.

The offensive line right now is not playing any better than that 2003 team. It is playing worse. The 2003 line got Troy Hambrick close to 200 yards at the end of the season. I would gladly take the performance of the 2003 offensive line over what is out there today. Flozell's injury really hurts this team.

Quincy had 3 games where he had a QB ratiing of less than 50. Against Tampa(42.1), New England(38.0) and the Eagles(49.5). He had three other games with ratings between 50 and 60. He had 4 more games between 60 and 70. So 10 of his games, he had a QB rating of less than 70. That is not acceptable in the NFL.

Drew's performance in last weeks game and a couple of other games has also not been acceptable. He has had better games and a few instances, his play was a key to victories.

How did we win 10 games that year? That's what counts (wins and losses).

That team was worse from top to bottom except for Woodson and Glover. Offensively we were twice as bad on the oline, and WR core. We had Hambrick "what do voluntary mean" on our team (or the brother of that quote)

I don't want QC back period. But Bledsoe won't be getting a free ride with the fans either.

My best and favorite player on the roster is Roy Williams and I fought for him until death over those 2 deep balls from the 1st Deadskins win. But now, I can't help him. I don't like the way he's been tackling, and I don't like the fact that he's not crushing people anymore.

No one is beyond being critisized anymore - not even Bledsoe and Bill Parcells.

 

[tyke1doe]

Bottom line: Brady is a better pressure QB than Bledsoe. PERIOD.

That's why Bledsoe can't do it.

 

[tyke1doe]

... we have a winner!!!

If you would have watched Brady's last three games he has become an exclusive three step passer. As I posted in an earlier thread he has become especially skilled in releasing the ball well before the receiver comes out of his breaks.

He doesn't thread the needle, he predicts when the needle is going to open up. He's a very accurate passer with some mobility.

He's is in my opinion still the best QB in this league because he is a big game QB.

I agree, to your post and the one you quoted.

 

[Juke99]

I sure do hope that this season by Brady puts to rest all the garbage talk about how he is a "bus driver" type QB.

The guy is flat out good.

 

[wileedog]

I sure do hope that this season by Brady puts to rest all the garbage talk about how he is a "bus driver" type QB.

The guy is flat out good.

I'd take Brady over Manning.

I'm serious.

 

[Juke99]

I'd take Brady over Manning.

I'm serious.

I might take Palmer over both...

Now who was that guy who Brady played with in college who put him on the bench???

 

[wileedog]

I might take Palmer over both...

Now who was that guy who Brady played with in college who put him on the bench???

I haven't seen Palmer play as much as the other guys, so I can't say.

Make or break offseason for Henson.

 

[TunaFan33]

Here's my question to you folks.

A lot of people have said this year that they question the coaching and/or Drew Bledsoe because although there have been a lot of problems with the team, other teams still get by and win with the same problems, and often go to the Playoffs.

On the Pro Bowl show on ESPN, Tom Jackson said that Tom Brady had his best year not only because he leads the NFL in passing yards, but because he changed his game. Jackson said he had to change his game to cope with a bad offensive line (New England was hit just as bad as Dallas with oline injuries) and a defense that would give up too many points.

I haven't seen many Pats games, so my question is what exactly does Tom Jackson mean by saying Brady had to "change his game." Were they running a slightly different offense to account for less pocket time? Was Brady having to scramble a little more, stay more aware of his linemen? Was it just Brady being forced to pass often?

And my biggest question is why can't Drew Bledsoe do this? Why doesn't anyone ever say this about him? I know it's hard to play when your offensive line is terrible, but OTHER quarterbacks have gotten by in this league! Is this basically what we're stuck with until we find a franchise QB again and groom him in Dallas?

This is BS. These ESPN "analysts" are a bunch of morons.

The big reason why Brady has improved his play significantly from earlier in the season is b/c his OL is HEALTHY again. There was a stretch mid-way through the season where the LEFT side of his line had a bunch of rookies. Now they've been all back in recent weeks.

FWIW-even if we payed Brady $20m/yr, he wouldn't be THAT stupid to trust Tucker and Pettiti to watch his back.

 

[Sarge]

Drew is no Tom Brady. You don't give him time, you don't win games. In fact, you have no CHANCE at winning games.

 

[big_neil]

Gee, the 3 time Super Bowl Champs can do it, why can't the 6-10 Dallas Cowboys? The greatest QB of all time Brady can do it, why not the future HOF'er Bledsoe?

 

[jay cee]

... we have a winner!!!

If you would have watched Brady's last three games he has become an exclusive three step passer. As I posted in an earlier thread he has become especially skilled in releasing the ball well before the receiver comes out of his breaks.

He doesn't thread the needle, he predicts when the needle is going to open up. He's a very accurate passer with some mobility.
He's is in my opinion still the best QB in this league because he is a big game QB.

That's the best description of Brady's passing skills that I have seen.

 

[kojak]

Alot of Brady love in here today.

Hey we know he is a winner. I would like to see what he could do here in Dallas with what he have to offer right now. What would our record be right now going into Carolina?