Tom Walsh says "Randy Moss is a player whose skills are diminishing,..."

[big dog cowboy]

I think peiople penciling them in as an automatic championship team are going to be in for a big surprise

he isnt going to make them any better, just like his previous two stops

David

I thought New England was a virtual lock for the AFC championship game BEFORE they traded for Moss. The success or failure of that team for this year will be changed little with his addition IMHO.

 

[smarta5150]

I thought New England was a virtual lock for the AFC championship game BEFORE they traded for Moss. The success or failure of that team for this year will be changed little with his addition IMHO.

I obviously agree.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Under Walsh, Moss ran shorter routes and caught passes underneath, not normally his bread and butter.

If your O-line sucks, that is what you do. How can you expect a WR to run a 18+ yard pattern when the QB is on his back side by the time you get downfield?

 

[TobiasEagle77]

The impact of chemistry is hard to predict. New England made ALOT of changes this offseason, perhaps too many.

Randy, even when he had a good quarterback, was a big part of the Vikings annual under-achievements. Nagging injuries and a bad attitude hurt that team down the stretch and in the playoffs.

 

[zrinkill]

Well see me at the end of the season when Moss has like 1,200 yards and 10 TD's...

People called those stats a failure for T.O. last year.

 

[Billy Bullocks]

I agree with most of you guys. New England looks like damn near the best team in the league right now. I thought they made some good additions BEFORE trading for Moss. Stallworth and Moss are an obvious upgrade over the horrendous WR corps that Brady still had success with last year.

Maroney is only going to get better.

The Defense is still damn good. New England will be a force again.

 

[joseephuss]

If your O-line sucks, that is what you do. How can you expect a WR to run a 18+ yard pattern when the QB is on his back side by the time you get downfield?

I don't remember the Raiders offense trying too many short passes last year. It seemed as if every pattern was a deep one just like the Raiders of old. Everyone was critical of that approach and mentioned it as one of the reasons that the QBs kept getting sacked. I think it was Ron Jaworski that broke down the film and said it looked as if Oakland didn't have any check down routes. It is what you get when you name a guy away from the game 10+ years as the OC.

 

[baj1dallas]

People called those stats a failure for T.O. last year.

They probably drafted him in the first round for their fantasy team. I'm hoping I can get Moss in the third..

 

[Doomsday101]

It should be interesting to see how Brady and Moss come together. Moss has never been known as a precise rout runner, his bread and butter has been down the field jump balls. Brady has been a guy who develops great timing with his WR and expects them to hit their marks.

 

[dmq]

Interesting take from his old offensive coordinator form Oakland:

Former Raiders offensive coordinator Tom Walsh, quoted in the Boston Globe on Patriots WR Randy Moss: “Randy Moss is a player whose skills are diminishing, and he's in denial of those eroding skills. Randy was a great receiver, but he lacked the work ethic and the desire to cultivate any skills that would compensate for what he was losing physically later in his career. He told me last year, 'I'm too old to practice on Wednesday and Thursday, but I'm not too old to play on Sunday.' Did they start a senior league? … Randy Moss has great football IQ. He's tremendously gifted. I think he can still play, but his legs will determine how much work he can handle. We used to take him out of Friday practices because the quarterbacks wanted the receivers running near game tempo and when Randy was on the field, the whole practice slowed down so much we started giving him the day off. Once he got discouraged, he just faded.”

 

[pgreptom]

I'm pretty sure this was already posted. Don't be surprised when Moss goes for over 1,000.

 

[fortdick]

Interesting take from his old offensive coordinator form Oakland:

Former Raiders offensive coordinator Tom Walsh, quoted in the Boston Globe on Patriots WR Randy Moss: “Randy Moss is a player whose skills are diminishing, and he's in denial of those eroding skills. Randy was a great receiver, but he lacked the work ethic and the desire to cultivate any skills that would compensate for what he was losing physically later in his career. He told me last year, 'I'm too old to practice on Wednesday and Thursday, but I'm not too old to play on Sunday.' Did they start a senior league? … Randy Moss has great football IQ. He's tremendously gifted. I think he can still play, but his legs will determine how much work he can handle. We used to take him out of Friday practices because the quarterbacks wanted the receivers running near game tempo and when Randy was on the field, the whole practice slowed down so much we started giving him the day off. Once he got discouraged, he just faded.”

Right now, would you rahter have Greg Ellis coming off a torn achilles, or Randy Moss, coming off a sprung uterus?

 

[Seven]

I'm pretty sure this was already posted. Don't be surprised when Moss goes for over 1,000.

That's a lot of missed practices, guy.

 

[BouncingCheese]

Moss is very lazy, true. VERY,VERY lazy. He rarely blocks on running plays, half-***** his own routes, and spends no time in the wieght room (he could have T.O.'s physique if he tried, the guy has such great genetics). He's also aging. However, he can still be a great reciever, and he is still damn fast. I just wonder if he is going to get enough catches that he plays team-ball instead of this hald effort bull; Brady is going to be spreading the ball out alot in O, Moss could be in for a letdown statisitcally.

I guarantee you this; NE is the better team and has the better chance of winning, but Farve would have passed the ball to Moss so much more than Brady will. Moss would have had better stats in GB.

 

[GlitzCowboy]

Jamie Dukes from NFLN said it best. Moss' problem lied in the fact that the raiders were in search of a leader and often turned towards Moss to fill that role. Quite simply put, he's not a leader and never has been, and faulters when asked to be one- it's just not in his chemistry makeup. In NE though, Tom Brady is not taking any applications for a co-leadership role to be assigned, he's that and that's all there is too it. No longer will Moss be asked things he's just not capable of, but instead now all he'll be doing is running down the field and catching balls, what he does. His desire for the game will return for this too. Now he can be "Star WR" instead of being relied on to be the "savior" of an entire franchise and then blamed for when it fails. Everything is on Tom Brady's shoulders in NE and nobody would have it another way- and Randy Moss sure isn't going to complain.

As far as the rest with him goes; no way in hell Little Bill will let him get away with anything and I don't think there's a person in the NFL that would think otherwise. Bill has a reputation that's like Gold. He's the Bill Jerry should have got.