Tony Dungy is a Hypocrite

[CoCo]

Isn't it possible for even good men like Dungy to contradict themselves...

Absolutely, and unequivocably, YES!

Not saying he has done that in this case, I don't think we know, but I very much believe that he remains a fallible man like us all.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

I guess the world needs more hypocrites then.

 

[03EBZ06]

What knowledge do we need? Regardless of his family's opinion, if family was truly his #1 priority, then I fail to understand why he couldn't have retired after his first Superbowl to spend time with them. If Tony retired, do you really think his family would tell him "No Dad, don't retire, continue to be a head coach so that we will rarely spend time with you." Give me a break and use your common sense

Common sense my arse. All you are doing is jumping into conclusion and vilifying a person without any facts.

The fact is, YOU have no idea how involved his family was with his decision to keep coaching.

 

[SweetDC]

I've read all the responses and none of you have addressed this issue. Please explain how a man who professes that fatherhood and family is his priority yet remains an NFL head coach is not being hypocritical? What is it that could be discussed among his family that would enable him to remain a head coach and not contradict his statements? Do we really need to hear what was discussed before we can reach a conclusion? I feel this is self-explanatory. He had choice to retire or remain a head coach and he chose to coach the Colts despite having a teenage son and wife who live in another state. Dungy's actions contradict his statements; that is hypocrisy. He is being a hypocrite. It doesn't mean he is a bad man. It doesn't mean I dislike him or that I still retain respect for him. But yes, he is going against his word and I do have less respect for him than I once did. And yes, if he claims that "God told him to coach the Colts", yes, I'm going to feel that is a copout. Isn't it possible for even good men like Dungy to contradict themselves or is that just out of the question?

C'mon now. Since when has there been a standardized measurement of "Fatherhood"?

Are long-haul truckers not good fathers because they are often on the road for long periods of time?

What about off-shore riggers who remain on the platform for weeks at a time?

I suppose those military men who sign up knowing they will likely be deployed for a year or more don't love their families either?

What about the New York City businessmen who remain in the city during the week and travel home to the burbs on Friday evenings? Or have you ever worked in a top tier law firm? The amount of hours you have to bill is outrageous. Good luck ever seeing your family as a new Associate.

Working on a cruise ship entails long periods away from home. Not everyone can be lucky like Captain Stubing and bring little Vicki along for the ride.

What about journalists who go where the story takes them, which is often away from home for extended periods of time.

Commercial fishermen spend months away from home during fishing season.

Many politicians don't pack up their families and move them all to DC when they get elected. The families stay home and the politician flies or takes the train back home on weekends to see their families. Wait a minute... actually politicians are hypocrites so I'll give you that one.

The list goes on. There are many professions that take mom or dad away from the home for long stretches. They are all elective jobs too. No one HAS to do any particular job. People want to be soldiers, truck drivers, politicians, and yes, football coaches. Life isn't a zero sum game--it's not all or nothing. There is this notion known as "balance". Living your dreams and loving your family are not mutually exclusive endeavors. You can do both, you know, as long as there is balance. Yes, sometimes finding balance entails sacrifice. But people live their life as it suits their own goals, dreams, and priorities--not yours and not mine.

One size doesn't fit all; one dad doesn't fit all; and one family doesn't fit all. I bristle when people cast pernicious accusations about a life not their own. Who is anyone but Tony Dungy and his family to judge whether his decision is hypocritical. Would it be the right decision for YOUR family? Maybe, maybe not. But clearly Tony decided it was the right decision for HIS family. Truth, as well as beauty, is often in the eye of the beholder. What appears hypocritical to you may be truth to Tony as he sees it.

Unless you've got one of Belicheck's spy cams filming Tony discussing matters with his family, your speculation and a quarter couldn't buy your way into a bubblegum machine; which means it isn't worth much.

Let it go. Surely there are more "worthier" individuals suitable for your ire and outrage over supposed hypocrisy. What about [SIZE=-1]Bobby Petrino who left the Falcons high and dry--during the season no less--after assuring everyone he wasn't going anywhere? Or Nick Saban who swore up and down that Bama wasn't on his mind, knowing full well he was outta there as soon as their backs were turned. Any you're picking on Tony?!
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[CoCo]

What a great post from Sweet DC

 

[peplaw06]

I also like how you were pretending to be objective by asking questions when you had already decided to defend Dungy because you like him personally.

No I decided to defend Dungy, because I knew why you were criticizing him. Easy as that.

Yes, isn't that obvious? Your son committed suicide 2 years ago. You have another son that is a teenager and living in Florida. You won a Superbowl. Don't you think your family needs if your in fact your family is your priority.

Uh, how about raising his son? Did that ever cross your mind? Is that so ridiculous?

Another ridiculous assumption on your part. You don't know his son from Adam. He could be completely adjusted. I guarantee Dungy knows him better than you do. You have zero clue as to what their relationship is like, or what his son is like.

No, I just used my brain, something you are unwilling to do because of your personal liking of Dungy. I like Dungy too but unlike you, I have the balls to courage to call him out on his hypocrisy.

So it takes balls and courage to make a fool of yourself? Yeah I guess you're ahead of me there.

Wrong, there was an article written by a newspaper journalist in Indiana. This was discussed on Dan Patrick today.

Uh oh, you caught me in a statement of hyperbole.

Wonder what Patrick said about it? Wonder what the rest of the country thinks about it? Probably not much judging from the responses you're getting in this thread.

By definition, the term priority means you are deeming something as being more important than something else. You are referring to responsibility. That's a different definition.

Because when he says my family is my priority, by definition, it means he is placing them first.

And how do you know his family isn't coming first? You don't.

Did you attend college?

I have a feeling you know the answer to this. Still this is a clear sign of desperation in your argument.

BTW, I'm a doctor too.

I'm a physician, I love my job. I went through 8 years of school and am currently doing my second year of residency. If I didn't love my job, I wouldn't have devoted so much time to it. During my 3rd year of medical school, I pondered going into surgery. In fact, I loved it but for me personally, my family did come first and I made that sacrafice. I have friends that chose their profession over their family and I respect that. However, none of these surgeons would be stupid enough to say they place their family above their career because they don't.

Congratulations. Good for you. Now I know why you are so arrogant and have the gall to call someone out in a situation you know zero about.

You think you have all the answers. Typical.

Sorry but that term isn't fooling anyone. He is a coach. He is not a minister. That's just his way of rationalizing remaining a coach. if you want to believe that line of bull so be it but some of us are not as easily fooled.

Another clear slight to the fact that he often invokes religion. You can minister in many ways. And I've heard people who talk about Dungy attest to the fact that he does minister in his own way where he is.

No, we just see that you are a fan of Dungy and will ignore logic and say whatever it takes to defend him. That much is clear

LOLz... I'm the one ignoring logic? Is this physician's logic you're talking here. I know I'm not the one creating mass hysteria out of thin air.

Oh so it's a 30 second soundbyte, did you measure it? No, it's just that other coaches are not delluding themselves by professing their priority is their family and the ministry and then acting otherwise.

I guarantee you every coach in the NFL who has a family will tell you he makes it a priority. You don't know how these people lead their everyday lives. Plain and simple. Quit pretending like you do.

He died 2 years ago. You don't think your son might be affected by his older brother's death especially considering he is a teenager now and doesn't have his father around him? How would you feel in that situation? Were you raised by your father? Just curious

I'm sure he is affected. but you don't know how so, or to what degree. I'll take the word of a guy who has intimate knowledge of his family over a guy who is making blanket suppositions on an internet message board after hearing a soundbyte and reading a couple of articles.

Does your family have to be in danger for you to spend time with them?

Srsly? You sound like you think Dungy spends zero time with his family. I'd love to see some evidence to that assumption you're making. Who am I kidding? You apparently don't need evidence. You have an active imagination.

I don't think he is lying. Lying means he is consciously choosing to deceive people. I don't think he is trying to deceive anyone. But I do think he is confused about his priorities and is not being honest with himself.

Then how is he hypocritical? You still haven't explained that one.

 

[Royal Laegotti]

C'mon now. Since when has there been a standardized measurement of "Fatherhood"?

Are long-haul truckers not good fathers because they are often on the road for long periods of time?

What about off-shore riggers who remain on the platform for weeks at a time?

I suppose those military men who sign up knowing they will likely be deployed for a year or more don't love their families either?

What about the New York City businessmen who remain in the city during the week and travel home to the burbs on Friday evenings? Or have you ever worked in a top tier law firm? The amount of hours you have to bill is outrageous. Good luck ever seeing your family as a new Associate.

Working on a cruise ship entails long periods away from home. Not everyone can be lucky like Captain Stubing and bring little Vicki along for the ride.

What about journalists who go where the story takes them, which is often away from home for extended periods of time.

Commercial fishermen spend months away from home during fishing season.

Many politicians don't pack up their families and move them all to DC when they get elected. The families stay home and the politician flies or takes the train back home on weekends to see their families. Wait a minute... actually politicians are hypocrites so I'll give you that one.

The list goes on. There are many professions that take mom or dad away from the home for long stretches. They are all elective jobs too. No one HAS to do any particular job. People want to be soldiers, truck drivers, politicians, and yes, football coaches. Life isn't a zero sum game--it's not all or nothing. There is this notion known as "balance". Living your dreams and loving your family are not mutually exclusive endeavors. You can do both, you know, as long as there is balance. Yes, sometimes finding balance entails sacrifice. But people live their life as it suits their own goals, dreams, and priorities--not yours and not mine.

One size doesn't fit all; one dad doesn't fit all; and one family doesn't fit all. I bristle when people cast pernicious accusations about a life not their own. Who is anyone but Tony Dungy and his family to judge whether his decision is hypocritical. Would it be the right decision for YOUR family? Maybe, maybe not. But clearly Tony decided it was the right decision for HIS family. Truth, as well as beauty, is often in the eye of the beholder. What appears hypocritical to you may be truth to Tony as he sees it.

Unless you've got one of Belicheck's spy cams filming Tony discussing matters with his family, your speculation and a quarter couldn't buy your way into a bubblegum machine; which means it isn't worth much.

Let it go. Surely there are more "worthier" individuals suitable for your ire and outrage over supposed hypocrisy. What about [SIZE=-1]Bobby Petrino who left the Falcons high and dry--during the season no less--after assuring everyone he wasn't going anywhere? Or Nick Saban who swore up and down that Bama wasn't on his mind, knowing full well he was outta there as soon as their backs were turned. Any you're picking on Tony?! [/SIZE]

Excellent post!

 

[FloridaRob]

......... And yes, if he claims that "God told him to coach the Colts", yes, I'm going to feel that is a copout....

A copout? Please let anyone around you know how you feel when there is lightning in the area. Make sure nobody is standing within 100 yards of you.

That statement right there shows why you don't get it. TD is a Christian and relies on his prayer life for decisions. So if TD were to pray and in that prayer life "God told him to coach the Colts", and he didn't, then You would have an argument about hyporcrisy. Doing what somebody believes God asks you do is being a Disciple, Not a Hypocrite. It is quite plain now why you don't believe Tony---It's because you don't believe in that kind of faith and no amount of aguing with you will change your mind.